The sugar workers have suffered under successive regimes- Jinnah Rahman .

January 13,2018

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Dear Editor,

I refer to the letter written by former President Donald Ramotar, dated 11 January, 2018, under the caption: ‘Private sector can be mobilised to put together company to buy sugar estates’.

No one in his or her right senses will seriously disagree with the former President of Guyana Donald Ramotar’s views on the future of the sugar industry. They amount to an admission of colossal mistakes, which has caused the industry and the sugar workers and their families immense pain and distress.

Many Guyanese would like to ask him, as I have asked on many occasions why he, sitting on the GuySuCo Board of Directors for more than 20 years, and furthermore, as President of the Republic, he did not implement any of the ideas that he now writes so glowingly about?

Mr Ramotar, lonely in opposition, now questions this government’s failure to implement those ideas that he now espouses.  He’s got to be joking! After 23 years of PPP misrule, nothing changed, fundamentally, for the sugar workers in Guyana. The fact of the matter is that the PPP was never seriously concerned about the long-term future of the sugar workers and the sugar industry, as is clear for all to see, as the crisis unfolds.

This letter column does not allow me to go into great detail, but suffice it to state that there have been many turnarounds and merry go-rounds, during the period that Comrade Ramotar served as a Director of GuySuCo and as President of our great country. Mr Ramotar has now woken up from a long sleep.

The National Farmers Organisation of Guyana (NFO), of which I am founding member, and is not a front organisation for any political party, has been banging those ideas, and even better ones, the Mr Ramotar now promotes since 1980 and before, but Mr Ramotar was never interested or never took us seriously, even when we were leading activists in the PPP.

The biggest question for us was the ownership of the assets of GuySuCo, the state-owned company. We have argued long before this coalition government came into office that we could not, as a nation, pump money into the sugar industry, without a sustainable outcome. No socio- economic-political system manages a failing enterprise, whether under capitalism, which we live under currently, or under a genuine socialist system. Production and productivity is the key for the development of any enterprise, regardless of its ownership.

The National Farmers Organisation submitted a comprehensive report and document to the current President, David Granger, and the relevant authorities, putting forward very sound and practical ideas that could have avoided the current crises that we now face in the sugar industry, but sadly, our contribution did not see the light of day.

Agriculture Minister, Mr Noel Holder, and the AFC leadership are not interested in saving the sugar industry or the welfare of the sugar workers. There has been no national consultation on the sugar industry.

The Alliance for Change Leadership, directly responsible for Agriculture, has not visited the sugar workers in Wales, the first casualty of the sugar fiasco. I went on countless occasions, accompanied by Dr Turhane Doerga, a businessman; television magnate, CN Sharma; and Junior Finance Minister, Jaipaul Sharma to Wales, before and after it was closed.

Unfortunately, the AFC leadership under PM Moses Nagamootoo and National Security Minister Khemraj Ramjattan repeated the same politically-driven mistake, which is to pump $32 billion into a black hole, as the PPP did under former presidents Bharrat Jagdeo and Donald Ramotar. These men, put together, cannot run a cake shop, much more a highly complex industry.

Dr Turhane Doerga and I from the RPA Action Committee, submitted a comprehensive document on the sugar industry to the Parliamentary Select Committee on Agriculture in 2016, but those papers were never recorded in the parliamentary archives and were never discussed at the Select Committee meetings. We were never called to give evidence.

Professor Clive Thomas, the Chairman of GuySuCo, also received our document, without any written acknowledgement from him. Our document was never discussed at the Working People’s Alliance (WPA) so-called Executive Committee, which comprised not more than 7 to 10 members, with no grassroots membership.

I attended many internal meetings of the Working People’s Alliance (WPA) group. The WPA has no strategy on the sugar or rice industries. There has never been any comprehensive discussion or active support from the WPA group for those who worked in these areas.

At the end of it all, the sugar workers are the ones who have suffered over the years and continue to suffer under successive regimes. The progressive political elements, who argued endlessly for the welfare of these workers, have failed, miserably, when placed in positions of authority to revolutionise the industry and remove the vestiges of slavery and colonial legacies. The working conditions of sugar workers remain the same. They still carry canes on their heads.

Shockingly, these so-called progressive elements, with all their political and economic knowledge have opted to destroy the industry and consequently, the livelihood of sugar workers. This is nothing more than a total betrayal of the essence of what the WPA stood for.  Walter Rodney would be turning in his grave to see his associates heading this destruction, without any mercy.

This government must take the views of Donald Ramotar and his belated commitment very seriously, with the aim of getting him and others to immediately correct some of the mistakes of the past. He must be actively engaged in a transparent and proactive structure to move the situation forward in the best interest of all sugar workers and the nation as a whole.

Yours faithfully,

M Jinnah Rahman

Original Post

The National Farmers Organisation submitted a comprehensive report and document to the current President, David Granger, and the relevant authorities, putting forward very sound and practical ideas that could have avoided the current crises that we now face in the sugar industry, but sadly, our contribution did not see the light of day.

Agriculture Minister, Mr Noel Holder, and the AFC leadership are not interested in saving the sugar industry or the welfare of the sugar workers. There has been no national consultation on the sugar industry.

Wasn't it Moses who told the sugar workers that esataes will not be closed during their PNC campaign? At least the PPP did not put the sugar workers on the street causing some of them to commit suicide.

Nice try there sloppy boy for again carrying the torch for the pnc by blaming the previous administration. 

Sugar can be profitable, but it would take massive investments in mechanization, factory etc, a venture that must be done by the private sector and not govt. But there are better ventures other there that requires less investments, with higher yielding profits that pushes sugar to the back of the investment line. 

Drugb posted:

Nice try there sloppy boy for again carrying the torch for the pnc by blaming the previous administration.

Your ability to understand  Mr.Rahaman views,are due to too much SHIT in your brain.

Take a rest you are making a fool of yourself.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Shows clearly your biasness.

I am not being accused of fetching piss/shit cans for the PPP or PNC. I do not profess to be an independent and clearly shows my preference for a dictatorship that has blood on their hands.

Interesting the writer associate himself with the crook fraudster Mr Turhane Doerga ... the previous owner of Alesie Rice who rippped Off hard working rice farmers of millions of dollars and didn’t pay his workers . 

I believe the US Government is looking for Mr Turhane Doerga for defrauding a company in US . 

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Shows clearly your biasness.

I am not being accused of fetching piss/shit cans for the PPP or PNC. I do not profess to be an independent and clearly shows my preference for a dictatorship that has blood on their hands.

Sorry pal,

your evaluation mediocre.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Shows clearly your biasness.

I am not being accused of fetching piss/shit cans for the PPP or PNC. I do not profess to be an independent and clearly shows my preference for a dictatorship that has blood on their hands.

Sorry pal,

your evaluation is mediocre.

I need to express it to your level.

skeldon_man posted:

The National Farmers Organisation submitted a comprehensive report and document to the current President, David Granger, and the relevant authorities, putting forward very sound and practical ideas that could have avoided the current crises that we now face in the sugar industry, but sadly, our contribution did not see the light of day.

Agriculture Minister, Mr Noel Holder, and the AFC leadership are not interested in saving the sugar industry or the welfare of the sugar workers. There has been no national consultation on the sugar industry.

Wasn't it Moses who told the sugar workers that esataes will not be closed during their PNC campaign? At least the PPP did not put the sugar workers on the street causing some of them to commit suicide.

NAMAKARAM CRABDAAGS WILL SAY ANYTHING AND SELL ANYTHING FOR FAME, POWER AND WEALTH!!!  THE WORST HO ON THE PLANET!!!

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

I need to express it to your level.

What's my level may i ask.

djangy bai, the perception here on gni is that you are a bottom house politician with limited education. You yourself attested to this. So skelly, an accomplished individual, is cognizant of your limitations and express opinion in a manner that you would understand. 

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Shows clearly your biasness.

I am not being accused of fetching piss/shit cans for the PPP or PNC. I do not profess to be an independent and clearly shows my preference for a dictatorship that has blood on their hands.

Sorry pal,

your evaluation mediocre.

This clearly is not an evaluation. This is an observation. Try again.

Drugb posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

I need to express it to your level.

What's my level may i ask.

djangy bai, the perception here on gni is that you are a bottom house politician with limited education. You yourself attested to this. So skelly, an accomplished individual, is cognizant of your limitations and express opinion in a manner that you would understand. 

You jumped in on the question which was not addressed to you.

Whose perception about my political abilities and Education on GNI ?

The only person thumping their chest trying to be-little is you the SHIT HEAD UNDER ACHIEVER.

Take care of the goady in your brain,you will make yourself a better person.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Shows clearly your biasness.

Is Jinnah Rahaman, the current personal assistant to Moses Nagamootoo, not biased?

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Shows clearly your biasness.

Is Jinnah Rahaman, the current personal assistant to Moses Nagamootoo, not biased?

Don't think you know Mr.Jinnah Rahaman affiliation.

Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Shows clearly your biasness.

Is Jinnah Rahaman, the current personal assistant to Moses Nagamootoo, not biased?

Don't think you know Mr.Jinnah Rahaman affiliation.

And how do you know this? Do you know that he is not an assistant to Moses? Do you have some information you can divulge here?

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
 

Don't think you know Mr.Jinnah Rahaman affiliation.

And how do you know this? Do you know that he is not an assistant to Moses? Do you have some information you can divulge here?

You need any info to ask Mr.Jinnah Rahaman.

I can privately sent it to you.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
 

Don't think you know Mr.Jinnah Rahaman affiliation.

And how do you know this? Do you know that he is not an assistant to Moses? Do you have some information you can divulge here?

You need any info to ask Mr.Jinnah Rahaman.

I can privately sent it to you.

Jinnah Rahaman is not on this board making irresponsible statements. Most people here would like to know more about this Rahaman dude.  Don't need pussur pussur propaganda. Let's make the facts public and examine them.

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
 

Don't think you know Mr.Jinnah Rahaman affiliation.

And how do you know this? Do you know that he is not an assistant to Moses? Do you have some information you can divulge here?

You need any info to ask Mr.Jinnah Rahaman.

I can privately sent it to you.

Jinnah Rahaman is not on this board making irresponsible statements. Most people here would like to know more about this Rahaman dude.  Don't need pussur pussur propaganda. Let's make the facts public and examine them.

Mr.Jinnah Rahaman is a public figure in Guyana,you can find information about him,he was also a former PPP stalwart.

If there is any doubt about his affiliations,I mentioned i can give you his personal contact "privately" so you can have ask him any questions.

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Skelly, ask yourself the question. The PPP had years to correct the situation, did they?

The "then" put sugar where they are in the "now". The PPP and PNC both are responsible for the workers plight.

cain posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Skelly, ask yourself the question. The PPP had years to correct the situation, did they?

The "then" put sugar where they are in the "now". The PPP and PNC both are responsible for the workers plight.

Bhai,you are so correct the PNC nationalize the industry and the PPP held on to it,they should have sold the Industry.

No !! they think they can run business,we all see the out come.

Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

I need to express it to your level.

What's my level may i ask.

djangy bai, the perception here on gni is that you are a bottom house politician with limited education. You yourself attested to this. So skelly, an accomplished individual, is cognizant of your limitations and express opinion in a manner that you would understand. 

You jumped in on the question which was not addressed to you.

Perhaps one fails to grasp that on GNI, all individuals can participate on discussions; whether the statements are directed to them or not.

In other words, no one has exclusive rights to determine who may take part on the topic created by him/her.

cain posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Skelly,

that's all you have gathered from the letter writer,...eh bhai.

You want me to bash Ramotar and the PPP. Good luck. We are looking "then" and "now".

Skelly, ask yourself the question. The PPP had years to correct the situation, did they?

The "then" put sugar where they are in the "now". The PPP and PNC both are responsible for the workers plight.

Wrong observation.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
 

Don't think you know Mr.Jinnah Rahaman affiliation.

And how do you know this? Do you know that he is not an assistant to Moses? Do you have some information you can divulge here?

You need any info to ask Mr.Jinnah Rahaman.

I can privately sent it to you.

Jinnah Rahaman is not on this board making irresponsible statements. Most people here would like to know more about this Rahaman dude.  Don't need pussur pussur propaganda. Let's make the facts public and examine them.

Mr.Jinnah Rahaman is a public figure in Guyana,you can find information about him,he was also a former PPP stalwart.

If there is any doubt about his affiliations,I mentioned i can give you his personal contact "privately" so you can have ask him any questions.

Jinnah Rahaman was never a PPP stalwart.  During the Burnham era he was with the WPA.  A charge of treason was directed to him and he escaped the country via Surinam.  Then from there he went to Holland.  And finally ended up in England where he lived for a number of years.  Somewhere in his head he thinks he is a revolutionary and enjoys upsetting the political apple cart.  He is an AFC member in the current Guyana Govt.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
 

Mr.Jinnah Rahaman is a public figure in Guyana,you can find information about him,he was also a former PPP stalwart.

If there is any doubt about his affiliations,I mentioned i can give you his personal contact "privately" so you can have ask him any questions.

Jinnah Rahaman was never a PPP stalwart.  During the Burnham era he was with the WPA.  A charge of treason was directed to him and he escaped the country via Surinam.  Then from there he went to Holland.  And finally ended up in England where he lived for a number of years.  Somewhere in his head he thinks he is a revolutionary and enjoys upsetting the political apple cart.  He is an AFC member in the current Guyana Govt.

Who told you that ? you don't seem to to know too much.

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
 

Don't think you know Mr.Jinnah Rahaman affiliation.

And how do you know this? Do you know that he is not an assistant to Moses? Do you have some information you can divulge here?

You need any info to ask Mr.Jinnah Rahaman.

I can privately sent it to you.

Jinnah Rahaman is not on this board making irresponsible statements. Most people here would like to know more about this Rahaman dude.  Don't need pussur pussur propaganda. Let's make the facts public and examine them.

Several years ago, Caribj said the PPP is not fully grasping the impact of changes in EU policy regarding sugar!  We said he was a PNCite who knows squat about sugar.  The rest is history!

Django posted:

You jumped in on the question which was not addressed to you.

Whose perception about my political abilities and Education on GNI ?

The only person thumping their chest trying to be-little is you the SHIT HEAD UNDER ACHIEVER.

Take care of the goady in your brain,you will make yourself a better person.

Don't pop a blood vessel on my account. I was just trying to be helpful given my knowledge about your limitations. I am not to blame if you are known as "slow boy" on gni. You accomplished this title all by yourself along with help from lilmohan. 

Drugb posted:
Django posted:

You jumped in on the question which was not addressed to you.

Whose perception about my political abilities and Education on GNI ?

The only person thumping their chest trying to be-little is you the SHIT HEAD UNDER ACHIEVER.

Take care of the goady in your brain,you will make yourself a better person.

Don't pop a blood vessel on my account. I was just trying to be helpful given my knowledge about your limitations. I am not to blame if you are known as "slow boy" on gni. You accomplished this title all by yourself along with help from lilmohan. 

What the fovk you know about Django ? listen banna give it a rest,

you may not like to hear what i have in mind to say,take a hike you will be on ignore,don't follow Django you will have to face the wrath.

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