The games are on !!

The snake and all his other handles used to cry crocodile tears over Obama's performance as President. Now he has his wishes. His President is a lying, cheating, mentally unstable, hapless and stupid person who needs he young daughter near him since she is the only person who can get into his thick skull whenever he gets the urge to go postal. Imagine the President is dangerous if he doesn't have his daughter next to him telling him calm down.

Our Dishonest President

  • PART IOur Dishonest President
  • PART IIMonday
  • PART IIITuesday
  • PART IVWednesday

It was no secret during the campaign that Donald Trump was a narcissist and a demagogue who used fear and dishonesty to appeal to the worst in American voters. The Times called him unprepared and unsuited for the job he was seeking, and said his election would be a “catastrophe.”

Still, nothing prepared us for the magnitude of this train wreck. Like millions of other Americans, we clung to a slim hope that the new president would turn out to be all noise and bluster, or that the people around him in the White House would act as a check on his worst instincts, or that he would be sobered and transformed by the awesome responsibilities of office.

Instead, seventy-some days in — and with about 1,400 to go before his term is completed — it is increasingly clear that those hopes were misplaced.

In a matter of weeks, President Trump has taken dozens of real-life steps that, if they are not reversed, will rip families apart, foul rivers and pollute the air, intensify the calamitous effects of climate change and profoundly weaken the system of American public education for all.

His attempt to de-insure millions of people who had finally received healthcare coverage and, along the way, enact a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich has been put on hold for the moment. But he is proceeding with his efforts to defang the government’s regulatory agencies and bloat the Pentagon’s budget even as he supposedly retreats from the global stage.

It is impossible to know where his presidency will lead or how much damage he will do to our nation.SHARE THIS QUOTE

These are immensely dangerous developments which threaten to weaken this country’s moral standing in the world, imperil the planet and reverse years of slow but steady gains by marginalized or impoverished Americans. But, chilling as they are, these radically wrongheaded policy choices are not, in fact, the most frightening aspect of the Trump presidency.

What is most worrisome about Trump is Trump himself. He is a man so unpredictable, so reckless, so petulant, so full of blind self-regard, so untethered to reality that it is impossible to know where his presidency will lead or how much damage he will do to our nation. His obsession with his own fame, wealth and success, his determination to vanquish enemies real and imagined, his craving for adulation — these traits were, of course, at the very heart of his scorched-earth outsider campaign; indeed, some of them helped get him elected. But in a real presidency in which he wields unimaginable power, they are nothing short of disastrous.

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Although his policies are, for the most part, variations on classic Republican positions (many of which would have been undertaken by a President Ted Cruz or a President Marco Rubio), they become far more dangerous in the hands of this imprudent and erratic man. Many Republicans, for instance, support tighter border security and a tougher response to illegal immigration, but Trump’s cockamamie border wall, his impracticable campaign promise to deport all 11 million people living in the country illegally and his blithe disregard for the effect of such proposals on the U.S. relationship with Mexico turn a very bad policy into an appalling one.


In the days ahead, The Times editorial board will look more closely at the new president, with a special attention to three troubling traits:

1Trump’s shocking lack of respect for those fundamental rules and institutions on which our government is based. Since Jan. 20, he has repeatedly disparaged and challenged those entities that have threatened his agenda, stoking public distrust of essential institutions in a way that undermines faith in American democracy. He has questioned the qualifications of judges and the integrity of their decisions, rather than acknowledging that even the president must submit to the rule of law. He has clashed with his own intelligence agencies, demeaned government workers and questioned the credibility of the electoral system and the Federal Reserve. He has lashed out at journalists, declaring them “enemies of the people,” rather than defending the importance of a critical, independent free press. His contempt for the rule of law and the norms of government are palpable.

2His utter lack of regard for truth. Whether it is the easily disprovable boasts about the size of his inauguration crowd or his unsubstantiated assertion that Barack Obama bugged Trump Tower, the new president regularly muddies the waters of fact and fiction. It’s difficult to know whether he actually can’t distinguish the real from the unreal — or whether he intentionally conflates the two to befuddle voters, deflect criticism and undermine the very idea of objective truth. Whatever the explanation, he is encouraging Americans to reject facts, to disrespect science, documents, nonpartisanship and the mainstream media — and instead to simply take positions on the basis of ideology and preconceived notions. This is a recipe for a divided country in which differences grow deeper and rational compromise becomes impossible.

3His scary willingness to repeat alt-right conspiracy theories, racist memes and crackpot, out-of-the-mainstream ideas. Again, it is not clear whether he believes them or merely uses them. But to cling to disproven “alternative” facts; to retweet racists; to make unverifiable or false statements about rigged elections and fraudulent voters; to buy into discredited conspiracy theories first floated on fringe websites and in supermarket tabloids — these are all of a piece with the Barack Obama birther claptrap that Trump was peddling years ago and which brought him to political prominence. It is deeply alarming that a president would lend the credibility of his office to ideas that have been rightly rejected by politicians from both major political parties.


Where will this end? Will Trump moderate his crazier campaign positions as time passes? Or will he provoke confrontation with Iran, North Korea or China, or disobey a judge’s order or order a soldier to violate the Constitution? Or, alternately, will the system itself — the Constitution, the courts, the permanent bureaucracy, the Congress, the Democrats, the marchers in the streets — protect us from him as he alienates more and more allies at home and abroad, steps on his own message and creates chaos at the expense of his ability to accomplish his goals? Already, Trump’s job approval rating has been hovering in the mid-30s, according to Gallup, a shockingly low level of support for a new president. And that was before his former national security advisor, Michael Flynn, offered to cooperate last week with congressional investigators looking into the connection between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.

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On Inauguration Day, we wrote on this page that it was not yet time to declare a state of “wholesale panic” or to call for blanket “non-cooperation” with the Trump administration. Despite plenty of dispiriting signals, that is still our view. The role of the rational opposition is to stand up for the rule of law, the electoral process, the peaceful transfer of power and the role of institutions; we should not underestimate the resiliency of a system in which laws are greater than individuals and voters are as powerful as presidents. This nation survived Andrew Jackson and Richard Nixon. It survived slavery. It survived devastating wars. Most likely, it will survive again.

But if it is to do so, those who oppose the new president’s reckless and heartless agenda must make their voices heard. Protesters must raise their banners. Voters must turn out for elections. Members of Congress — including and especially Republicans — must find the political courage to stand up to Trump. Courts must safeguard the Constitution. State legislators must pass laws to protect their citizens and their policies from federal meddling. All of us who are in the business of holding leaders accountable must redouble our efforts to defend the truth from his cynical assaults.

The United States is not a perfect country, and it has a great distance to go before it fully achieves its goals of liberty and equality. But preserving what works and defending the rules and values on which democracy depends are a shared responsibility. Everybody has a role to play in this drama.

This is the first in a series.

The problem with Trump

A series of Times editorials

  1. Our Dishonest President
  2. Coming Monday
  3. Coming Tuesday
  4. Coming Wednesday

 Is it possible Trump is so rich that he has gotten away with lots in the past and by his own doing it will be his downfall? Every negative asinine action taken by him is seen not only througout the country but the world over and no amount of riches can now save him. Perhaps this was always the plan and the only way that ..ahem...FILTHHEAD can be taken down.

Tola posted:

Trump should extend his Mid East holiday and really enjoy it, because he might  not like what is waiting for him back home.

On second thought, maybe he should seek  asylum  in Russia and keep what is left of his good name.

I'm anxiously waiting to see how he handles a few issues, then y'all will see me cussing up like Nehru.  

skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:

Ivanka is in the White House to ensure that Trump doesn't do anything stupid. The heat is going to get intensified and America does use the death penalty for treason. Trump is on very quick sand.

Ivanka is going to spy on the staff. When she finds a traitor, she will will go "I am telling daddy on you", nah nah nah b

oo boo".

   Do you see the folly of supporting an idiot like Trump now?

All well and good but the worst parts of his agenda are perfectly in line with what Ryan and Pence will do.  The difference is that Trump is so incompetent that he will most likely not be able to implement this disaster.

An alliance between a President Pence and Paul Ryan would be the real disaster.  Let us hope that Trump's impeachment, or recall comes AFTER the Dems win back the House and the Senate, then they could then block a President Pence.

Do not remove the probability that Pence isn't in the background doing his best to ensure that Trump is removed, so he can implement his Christian Taliban agenda and Ryan can make his heroine Ayn Rand proud.

Pence is beginning to look like damaged goods now so he may not survive this scandal either. But I agree that this can't blow up before the Dems take back the house and senate next year because Ryan isn't leaning too far out of Trump's Cliff.

caribny posted:

All well and good but the worst parts of his agenda are perfectly in line with what Ryan and Pence will do.  The difference is that Trump is so incompetent that he will most likely not be able to implement this disaster.

An alliance between a President Pence and Paul Ryan would be the real disaster.  Let us hope that Trump's impeachment, or recall comes AFTER the Dems win back the House and the Senate, then they could then block a President Pence.

Do not remove the probability that Pence isn't in the background doing his best to ensure that Trump is removed, so he can implement his Christian Taliban agenda and Ryan can make his heroine Ayn Rand proud.

You can be on to something Carib

ksazma posted:

Pence is beginning to look like damaged goods now so he may not survive this scandal either. But I agree that this can't blow up before the Dems take back the house and senate next year because Ryan isn't leaning too far out of Trump's Cliff.

Is he?  The constitution says that the VP replaces the President if the President is unable to serve his full term. 

In the interim the VP sits quietly and smiles.  Maybe this is deliberate to protect the constitution from having to deal with a double impeachment, or recall.

Chief posted:
 

You can be on to something Carib

Any one who thinks that the Republicans are stupid fool themselves. I remember warning BEFORE the election that Hillary's victory wasn't assured and that there could have been a Midwest surprise.

The Dems never disappoint with their tendency to snatch victory out of their mouths.  Most Americans support their agenda and yet they have lost most areas of government, with Obama's victories being the only successes over the past 8 years.

caribny posted:
ksazma posted:

Pence is beginning to look like damaged goods now so he may not survive this scandal either. But I agree that this can't blow up before the Dems take back the house and senate next year because Ryan isn't leaning too far out of Trump's Cliff.

Is he?  The constitution says that the VP replaces the President if the President is unable to serve his full term. 

In the interim the VP sits quietly and smiles.  Maybe this is deliberate to protect the constitution from having to deal with a double impeachment, or recall.

Suppose we find out that Pence also colluded with the Russians?

ksazma posted:
 

Suppose we find out that Pence also colluded with the Russians?

Doubt it. Pence was brought in at the late stages to woo the Bible Thumpers over to Trump.  This was around the puzzy grabbing period when folks were worried about whether they would vote for a sinner like Trump,

He wasn't begging for a job, but a chance to implement his Christian Taliban agenda.  That was the deal that he and Trump worked out.

It is perfectly plausible that setting up Trump for a quick impeachment (or recall) would fit well into his plan. Just about now Trump is probably realizing that being president isn't as much fun as he thought. And he isn't going to be allowed to be a Putinesque dictator either.

caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
 

Suppose we find out that Pence also colluded with the Russians?

Doubt it. Pence was brought in at the late stages to woo the Bible Thumpers over to Trump.  This was around the puzzy grabbing period when folks were worried about whether they would vote for a sinner like Trump,

He wasn't begging for a job, but a chance to implement his Christian Taliban agenda.  That was the deal that he and Trump worked out.

It is perfectly plausible that setting up Trump for a quick impeachment (or recall) would fit well into his plan. Just about now Trump is probably realizing that being president isn't as much fun as he thought. And he isn't going to be allowed to be a Putinesque dictator either.

Any replacement of Trump will be tantamount to a Putsch!  It could have dire consequences to the plotters and their agitators!

Chief posted:

Trump seems like he is in trouble.

He asked quite a few to " make the Russia investigation to go away".

Trump is having a rude awakening that his crookedness in business, is not working for him as  President of the United States.

Even his billions cannot save him from the constitution. Power to ' We the People'.

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