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Reza

Had it not been for Cuban help, the medical services would have totally collapsed.< It was Cuba who built the first medical school, in Guyana.Although not of friend of the West, he certainly has been an ally of Guyana.Appreciate you help.

We could have developed the ability to help ourselves had it not been for the Fidelphalia by the so called "fathers" of the state. Even now as we moved away from his sphere of dominance we see in our backwoods world reaching for its place even if still shackled to some numbnuts with a liking for the cold world era kind of politics..

FM
Danyael posted:

 

Reza

Had it not been for Cuban help, the medical services would have totally collapsed.< It was Cuba who built the first medical school, in Guyana.Although not of friend of the West, he certainly has been an ally of Guyana.Appreciate you help.

We could have developed the ability to help ourselves had it not been for the Fidelphalia by the so called "fathers" of the state. Even now as we moved away from his sphere of dominance we see in our backwoods world reaching for its place even if still shackled to some numbnuts with a liking for the cold world era kind of politics..

Reza is correct. Cuba help Guyana more than the Americans and British white man who you and the other PNC supporters worship.  Tell us how many British and American doctors in Guyana providing medical services? Especially to the Amerindians who you claim to have heritage. 

FM

Drugb 

Fidel Castro was the only Carribean leader who recognized the illeagal PNC after the Burnham stole the 1973 election s.

Fidel visited Guyana in September in 1973 just 2 months after the elections and he instructed all you Daddy Jagan to immediately start supporting Burnham.

Your daddy like a Lil puppy dog put his tail between his tail and said yes comrade.

The rest is history Guyana got destroyed by both Burnham and Jagan.

FIDEL was more concerned about dictatorships and governments that he could have coerced . 

In the end Burnham outsmarted all of them and became President for life.

 

Chief
Drugb posted:

Reza is correct. Cuba help Guyana more than the Americans and British white man who you and the other PNC supporters worship.  Tell us how many British and American doctors in Guyana providing medical services? Especially to the Amerindians who you claim to have heritage. 

How come you are not in Cuba given you now become a Fidel disciple? Guyana is where it is because of western benevolence. That we need poorly trained Cuban quacks would not have been the case had our own properly trained medical personnel not be forced to flee like you did on account of Fedilphalia.  I do not see half a million guyanese in Cuba sending back half a billion yearly to Guyana. Where are these sons and daughters and on whose benefaction are these souls rescued so they can rescue their nation?.....the bloody west you ingrates!!!!

FM
Danyael posted:

 

Reza

Had it not been for Cuban help, the medical services would have totally collapsed.< It was Cuba who built the first medical school, in Guyana.Although not of friend of the West, he certainly has been an ally of Guyana.Appreciate you help.

We could have developed the ability to help ourselves had it not been for the Fidelphalia by the so called "fathers" of the state. Even now as we moved away from his sphere of dominance we see in our backwoods world reaching for its place even if still shackled to some numbnuts with a liking for the cold world era kind of politics..

I have to agree with Reza on the help to Guyana, though I don't support Castro.  The poison ivy PNC destroyed everything, everything collapsed and Cuba did ride to the rescue.

FM

I don't understand why Druggie praises Fidel and then thinks that Burnham was a bad person.

They were BOTH megalomaniacs who destroyed their countries. Look at how Cubans have to roam Regent St looking for panties to sell in Cuba! 

That is like when Guyanese had to do the same in Trinidad and Barbados.

And as to the UK not doing anything. Well they sustained people, mainly PPP supporters, by continuing to buy sugar that they could have acquired more cheaply from Brazil and Australia. Had they not done so GuySICKO would have collapsed long ago.  They (through the EU) gave Jagdeo millions to assist in transitioning Guyana away from sugar.  Not their fault that the jackass Jagdeo squandered the funds on building a white elephant in Skeldon.

FM
ba$eman posted:

I have to agree with Reza on the help to Guyana, though I don't support Castro.  The poison ivy PNC destroyed everything, everything collapsed and Cuba did ride to the rescue.

Stupidity at its height.

Guyana fell apart because of Burnham and Cheddi collaborating with Fidel and their Soviet masters to institute Cuban styled Socialism in Guyana.

Mars
Drugb posted:

Fellas, nowhere did I praise Fidel. I stated a fact that Cuba helped Guyana in the medical field more than any other nation,

And Burnham spent money that he didn't have to help fight apartheid. Does that make him a hero?

FACT. Castro used his medical aid as a diplomatic tool. And he doesn't give it free either. Guyana pays for it.  They don't pay the doctors their salary.  They pay Cuba, which then gives the doctors a stipend.

So cease with your groveling to that monster.

Irony is Cuban doctors defect to live in Guyana. Never heard of a Guyanese student defecting to live in Cuba!

FM
Drugb posted:

Fellas, nowhere did I praise Fidel. I stated a fact that Cuba helped Guyana in the medical field more than any other nation, regardless of how good or bad Castro was.   He has many supporters in Cuba, they can not all be evil for supporting him. Just as Trump has many supporters in the US. 

Your clarification is noted.

 

Chief
Danyael posted:
ba$eman posted:

I have to agree with Reza on the help to Guyana, though I don't support Castro.  The poison ivy PNC destroyed everything, everything collapsed and Cuba did ride to the rescue.

That is like praising the murderer for his selection of the undertaker!

No no, it was about the people of Guyana.  Burnham/PNC destroyed everything and luckily the abhorrent Castro did provide some assistance.  Without this the people of Guyana, mainly Indians, would have suffered even worse, maybe even dying on the streets!  The PNC goons would have ensured Blacks got whatever little was there at the expense of Indians.

FM
Mars posted:
ba$eman posted:

I have to agree with Reza on the help to Guyana, though I don't support Castro.  The poison ivy PNC destroyed everything, everything collapsed and Cuba did ride to the rescue.

Stupidity at its height.

Guyana fell apart because of Burnham and Cheddi collaborating with Fidel and their Soviet masters to institute Cuban styled Socialism in Guyana.

That's your take.  Fact is, the PNC and Burnham was at the helm of the Govt and decisions.  No where do I excuse Cheddi but he was not the Govt and ultimate say was with Burnham!  In the end, Burnham ruled Guyana, not Castro or Jagan!

FM
ba$eman posted:
Mars posted:
ba$eman posted:

I have to agree with Reza on the help to Guyana, though I don't support Castro.  The poison ivy PNC destroyed everything, everything collapsed and Cuba did ride to the rescue.

Stupidity at its height.

Guyana fell apart because of Burnham and Cheddi collaborating with Fidel and their Soviet masters to institute Cuban styled Socialism in Guyana.

That's your take.  Fact is, the PNC and Burnham was at the helm of the Govt and decisions.  No where do I excuse Cheddi but he was not the Govt and ultimate say was with Burnham!  In the end, Burnham ruled Guyana, not Castro or Jagan!

Burnham, Jagan and Castro were all working in collaboration with the Soviets. That's a fact Jack. Guyana fell apart after Jagan started to provide "critical support" to the Dictator and under orders from the Soviets, they nationalized the main industries without having the capital or expertise to run them. Fidel was the facilitator who the Russians chose to bring Burnham and Jagan together in an unholy Socialist alliance which spelled doom for Guyana. Burnham was not working alone.

Mars
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Mars posted:
 

Burnham, Jagan and Castro were all working in collaboration with the Soviets. That's a fact Jack. Guyana fell apart after Jagan started to provide "critical support" to the Dictator and under orders from the Soviets, they nationalized the main industries without having the capital or expertise to run them. Fidel was the facilitator who the Russians chose to bring Burnham and Jagan together in an unholy Socialist alliance which spelled doom for Guyana. Burnham was not working alone.

Yes tell these racist PPP hypocrites this. Had Jagan taken Guyana into independence we would have been like Cuba, and all of these folks who flew up to New York and Toronto, through Timehri, would have been paddling over the Takatu River.  Dodging bullets while they did so. Not fleeing to Suriname, fearful that the Surinamese would have sent them right back.

Jagan was a slave of Havana and Moscow. Instead of opposing the nationalization of the economy, knowing that the PNC lacked the expertise to run these entities, and that the motivation was purely about domination, Jagan screamed support. His massas in Havana and Moscow ordered him to do this.

FM
Mars posted:
ba$eman posted:

That's your take.  Fact is, the PNC and Burnham was at the helm of the Govt and decisions.  No where do I excuse Cheddi but he was not the Govt and ultimate say was with Burnham!  In the end, Burnham ruled Guyana, not Castro or Jagan!

Burnham, Jagan and Castro were all working in collaboration with the Soviets. That's a fact Jack. Guyana fell apart after Jagan started to provide "critical support" to the Dictator and under orders from the Soviets, they nationalized the main industries without having the capital or expertise to run them. Fidel was the facilitator who the Russians chose to bring Burnham and Jagan together in an unholy Socialist alliance which spelled doom for Guyana. Burnham was not working alone.

Bull crap, the Guyana economy disintegrated when the PNC goons nationalized and put PNC numbskulls to run the show which they had no clue.  It was sheer mismanagement.  The intervention in Africa and aid and abetting Cuba to this end made matters worse.  Jagan had to part here.

If they followed the Cuban model, why did everything fall apart in Guyana and not in Cuba. Jagan had to control, and he soon realized, thus the 1977 sugar strike!

Listen you PNC clowns, try to paint over shit and pretend it's spackle don't make it so!

FM
ba$eman posted:
Mars posted:

Burnham, Jagan and Castro were all working in collaboration with the Soviets. That's a fact Jack. Guyana fell apart after Jagan started to provide "critical support" to the Dictator and under orders from the Soviets, they nationalized the main industries without having the capital or expertise to run them. Fidel was the facilitator who the Russians chose to bring Burnham and Jagan together in an unholy Socialist alliance which spelled doom for Guyana. Burnham was not working alone.

Bull crap, the Guyana economy disintegrated when the PNC goons nationalized and put PNC numbskulls to run the show which they had no clue.  It was sheer mismanagement.  The intervention in Africa and aid and abetting Cuba to this end made matters worse.  Jagan had to part here.

If they followed the Cuban model, why did everything fall apart in Guyana and not in Cuba. Jagan had to control, and he soon realized, thus the 1977 sugar strike!

Listen you PNC clowns, try to paint over shit and pretend it's spackle don't make it so!

Since when I'm a PNC? I see things from a much more unbiased perspective than you who only see the black man as evil. Jagan can do no wrong is a part of your PYO brainwashing training.

That's exactly the point. Guyana lacked the expertise as well as the capital to run the main industries after they were nationalized. The PPP stood up in Parliament and voted unanimously for nationalization along with the PNC because they were under orders from their Soviet bosses. This only a couple of years after the PNC stole the 1973 elections. Jagan, Burnham and Castro were all working together for the Soviets as much as you'd like to deny it. You must think that it was a mere coincidence that Jagan was summoned to Cuba and came back with his policy of critical support for the PNC. Regardless of which party was leading the government at that time, the outcome would have been the same. Jagan wanted nationalization in Guyana long before it came to pass so don't for one minute pretend to us that he wouldn't have done the same thing and suffered the same consequences.

So Cuba is a success story today? Don't leh me buss out laughing. Cuba was being propped up financially by Russia for many years until the spigot was finally turned off and they fell further into ruins. People floating to Miami on makeshift rafts. Others are loving when they are posted to Guyana as doctors and planeloads of traders are making trips today to Guyana of all places to buy goods to resell in Cuba.

Mars
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ba$eman posted:
 

Bull crap, the Guyana economy disintegrated when the PNC goons nationalized and put PNC numbskulls to run the show which they had no clue.  It was sheer mismanagement.  The intervention in Africa and aid and abetting Cuba to this end made matters worse.  Jagan had to part here.

If they followed the Cuban model, why did everything fall apart in Guyana and not in Cuba. Jagan had to control, and he soon realized, thus the 1977 sugar strike!

Listen you PNC clowns, try to paint over shit and pretend it's spackle don't make it so!

1.  Cheddi should have known that the PNC lacked the capacity to run these companies.  Not only did he endorse Demba being nationalized, but screamed that Bookers should be as well.

FACT. Cheddi followed orders given to him by his communist slave masters. He faithfully did as we was told, to the detriment of Guyana.

2.  Cuba's economy survived with massive Soviet subsidies, and when that ended it collapsed.  Only massive investment by the Europeans mainly in tourism rescued it.  Once the world's largest sugar exporter that industry is virtually DEAD! 

Baseman a country where doctors sell their bodies so that they can buy panties isn't my idea of a functioning society. And yes they do as they earn their salary in worthless Cuban pesos.   These women who flock to Guyana to buy panties sell them in CUCs.  The doctors don't have CUCs so must spread open their legs so that they can earn CUCs to buy panties.

FM
caribny posted:

Baseman a country where doctors sell their bodies so that they can buy panties isn't my idea of a functioning society. And yes they do as they earn their salary in worthless Cuban pesos.   These women who flock to Guyana to buy panties sell them in CUCs.  The doctors don't have CUCs so must spread open their legs so that they can earn CUCs to buy panties.

Listen banna, I'm not celebrating Castro's life, read my posts.  I just agree that he bailed out the hapless inept PNC and helped out the people.

Castro was a dictator and although he brought some good to the people of Cuba, he also did a lot more damage.

I must add, props to Obama for opening up the doors to Cuba.  I hope Trump moves along on a business path to bring about further normalization!

FM
Mars posted:

Since when I'm a PNC? I see things from a much more unbiased perspective than you who only see the black man as evil. Jagan can do no wrong is a part of your PYO brainwashing training.

Not sure why you conclude I was a PYO member.  The one election I was able to vote in prior to leaving, I voted Liberator!

FM
caribny posted:
Mars posted:
 

Burnham, Jagan and Castro were all working in collaboration with the Soviets. That's a fact Jack. Guyana fell apart after Jagan started to provide "critical support" to the Dictator and under orders from the Soviets, they nationalized the main industries without having the capital or expertise to run them. Fidel was the facilitator who the Russians chose to bring Burnham and Jagan together in an unholy Socialist alliance which spelled doom for Guyana. Burnham was not working alone.

Yes tell these racist PPP hypocrites this. Had Jagan taken Guyana into independence we would have been like Cuba, and all of these folks who flew up to New York and Toronto, through Timehri, would have been paddling over the Takatu River.  Dodging bullets while they did so. Not fleeing to Suriname, fearful that the Surinamese would have sent them right back.

Jagan was a slave of Havana and Moscow. Instead of opposing the nationalization of the economy, knowing that the PNC lacked the expertise to run these entities, and that the motivation was purely about domination, Jagan screamed support. His massas in Havana and Moscow ordered him to do this.

Well said CaribJ.

I will further add that Jagan was the architect of the destruction of Guyana.

Chief
Chief posted:
caribny posted:

Yes tell these racist PPP hypocrites this. Had Jagan taken Guyana into independence we would have been like Cuba, and all of these folks who flew up to New York and Toronto, through Timehri, would have been paddling over the Takatu River.  Dodging bullets while they did so. Not fleeing to Suriname, fearful that the Surinamese would have sent them right back.

Jagan was a slave of Havana and Moscow. Instead of opposing the nationalization of the economy, knowing that the PNC lacked the expertise to run these entities, and that the motivation was purely about domination, Jagan screamed support. His massas in Havana and Moscow ordered him to do this.

Well said CaribJ.

I will further add that Jagan was the architect of the destruction of Guyana.

You PPP/Hindu hater will find comfort in a racist like Caribj attacking Indians.  I understand you happiness with the PNC who allowed to you run contra-ban and them send you off to open up the lil falaffel business!

FM

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