Sonu Nigam insulted our noble Religion

ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

It was said that Jesus went to India and learned from the "swamis" there. I was told that most of his teachings are from the Hindu philosophy.

skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

It was said that Jesus went to India and learned from the "swamis" there. I was told that most of his teachings are from the Hindu philosophy.

There is nothing to brag about here dude. Based on the account in the Bible, Jesus did not teach much and did even less.

ksazma posted:
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

It was said that Jesus went to India and learned from the "swamis" there. I was told that most of his teachings are from the Hindu philosophy.

There is nothing to brag about here dude. Based on the account in the Bible, Jesus did not teach much and did even less.

Ksaz, I am not bragging. I know very very little about Hinduism, less than I know about Christianity.

ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

The Quran never mentioned any prophet in India nor does it mention Hinduism or any other religions of India.

skeldon_man posted:

Ksaz, I am not bragging. I know very very little about Hinduism, less than I know about Christianity.

I wasn't insinuating that you are bragging about Hinduism. I was just pointing out that Jesus as detailed in the Bible was like a lungera and didn't do much teaching or doing.

Prashad posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

The Quran never mentioned any prophet in India nor does it mention Hinduism or any other religions of India.

The Qur'an did not declare that no prophets were sent to the people of India. It does state that God has sent prophets to every nation.

Chief posted:

This idiot is A LOW LIFE!

I do not care how good he can sing.

Hello, he is not a low life, you are. You must read what he said before you jump to represent a religion that's going to the dogs. He speak the truth and he speak from Hindu India where he belong. Why Muslim have loud speaker to wake up Hindus early morning? Was that necessary? Islam is not a noble religion. Now, get with the program.

Prince posted:
Chief posted:

This idiot is A LOW LIFE!

I do not care how good he can sing.

Hello, he is not a low life, you are. You must read what he said before you jump to represent a religion that's going to the dogs. He speak the truth and he speak from Hindu India where he belong. Why Muslim have loud speaker to wake up Hindus early morning? Was that necessary? Islam is not a noble religion. Now, get with the program.

Crawl back under your rock, crappo........

GTAngler posted:
Prince posted:
Chief posted:

This idiot is A LOW LIFE!

I do not care how good he can sing.

Hello, he is not a low life, you are. You must read what he said before you jump to represent a religion that's going to the dogs. He speak the truth and he speak from Hindu India where he belong. Why Muslim have loud speaker to wake up Hindus early morning? Was that necessary? Islam is not a noble religion. Now, get with the program.

Crawl back under your rock, crappo........

Shut you poke hole.

Prince posted:
GTAngler posted:
Prince posted:
Chief posted:

This idiot is A LOW LIFE!

I do not care how good he can sing.

Hello, he is not a low life, you are. You must read what he said before you jump to represent a religion that's going to the dogs. He speak the truth and he speak from Hindu India where he belong. Why Muslim have loud speaker to wake up Hindus early morning? Was that necessary? Islam is not a noble religion. Now, get with the program.

Crawl back under your rock, crappo........

Shut you poke hole.

Bana, unlike you, I don't have a poke hole. Me KH is exit only. You on the other hand gat two way traffic.   

Chief posted:
Prince posted:
Why Muslim have loud speaker to wake up Hindus early morning? Was that necessary? 

Because we are powerful!

Powerful until every country is kicking allyou rass out. Must go to Syria, Iran or Pakistan and play powerful. 

Prince posted:
Chief posted:
Prince posted:
Why Muslim have loud speaker to wake up Hindus early morning? Was that necessary? 

Because we are powerful!

Powerful until every country is kicking allyou rass out. Must go to Syria, Iran or Pakistan and play powerful. 

We have the power to wake  you up!

We rolling , what you got, nothing , nada!

Prashad posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

The Quran never mentioned any prophet in India nor does it mention Hinduism or any other religions of India.

What a dumb-ass you are; every statement you make, every question you ask clearly indicates you a totally demented !!

Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

The Quran never mentioned any prophet in India nor does it mention Hinduism or any other religions of India.

What a dumb-ass you are; every statement you make, every question you ask clearly indicates you a totally demented !!

The brown South Asian Arab known here as keefer who has a deep hate for his ethnic roots should read this:

www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-r...allah_b_1759049.html

Prashad posted:

Is that so keffer. I got the skills to blast you off to Mars and back. You got that type of skills?

Accept reality; you totally lack the capacity and ability to speak and write proper English, despite which you still attempt to present a facade of knowledge with the garbage that you put out. Go back to your toilet cleaning routine, accept the reality that you are now and will always be a dumb-ass ! Stop presenting trash because you interfere with and interrupt the trends of thought of intelligent people with you incessant ignoramus rants and dumb-ass statements, questions and opinions ! The only skill you have is cleaning toilets in the US army ....

Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

The Quran never mentioned any prophet in India nor does it mention Hinduism or any other religions of India.

What a dumb-ass you are; every statement you make, every question you ask clearly indicates you a totally demented !!

The brown South Asian Arab known here as keefer who has a deep hate for his ethnic roots should read this:

www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-r...allah_b_1759049.html

Prashad, what I have seen, learnt and personally experienced, is way beyond your capacity to comprehend or appreciate. Your incessant reference to ethnicity strongly suggest that you were violated by someone who is not of South Asian origin; I therefore believe you badly need psychiatric counselling and guidance ! By the way, do you still envisage Guyana being ethnically partitioned into two different states; one comprised of Essequibo and Berbice and Demerara being the other ? Even your demented grandpappy would have no doubt kicked your rump for putting out such a dumb-ass suggestion ! For the N-th time, I have been to the Indian sub-continent 11 times so advice from you, who barely managed to wiggle out of Guyana, is of nominal value, if any, to me. Maybe I should invite you to tag along with me on my next trip in a few weeks; please note, however, that YOU will need to carry lots and lots of toilet paper with you ! Some of those guys in Tamil Nadu will be delighted to 'meet you' ..... !   

ksazma posted:
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

It was said that Jesus went to India and learned from the "swamis" there. I was told that most of his teachings are from the Hindu philosophy.

There is nothing to brag about here dude. Based on the account in the Bible, Jesus did not teach much and did even less.

I often told you, there is the need to discover what is said for its truths and a need to have basic tools to be critical on the onset. One satisfies their needs and creates their world view from these approach. You are in the latter.

Jesus is profound. He is direct. He is simple and penetrating. He connects the distant past of his people to the present and directs them on a path to the future. The sermon on the mount is one of the places one can find all of this and it is where he has the most sustained dialog. It is structurally  the most beautiful poetic  utterances about the principles for a good and  moral approach to living. 

It is the place where most  Christians concentrate on to get the seminal understanding of the faith and it contains some of the worlds most recognizable phrases that practically everyone living has heard them and they immediately grasps its understanding.

It includes the famous beatitudes and the lords prayer.  This section is not only  vast in its scope and profound philosophically; anyone from any religion or not can grasp its truths.

Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

The Quran never mentioned any prophet in India nor does it mention Hinduism or any other religions of India.

What a dumb-ass you are; every statement you make, every question you ask clearly indicates you a totally demented !!

The brown South Asian Arab known here as keefer who has a deep hate for his ethnic roots should read this:

www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-r...allah_b_1759049.html

Prashad, what I have seen, learnt and personally experienced, is way beyond your capacity to comprehend or appreciate. Your incessant reference to ethnicity strongly suggest that you were violated by someone who is not of South Asian origin; I therefore believe you badly need psychiatric counselling and guidance ! By the way, do you still envisage Guyana being ethnically partitioned into two different states; one comprised of Essequibo and Berbice and Demerara being the other ? Even your demented grandpappy would have no doubt kicked your rump for putting out such a dumb-ass suggestion ! For the N-th time, I have been to the Indian sub-continent 11 times so advice from you, who barely managed to wiggle out of Guyana, is of nominal value, if any, to me. Maybe I should invite you to tag along with me on my next trip in a few weeks; please note, however, that YOU will need to carry lots and lots of toilet paper with you ! Some of those guys in Tamil Nadu will be delighted to 'meet you' ..... !   

I am telling you what I have seen and heard over the years.  As I said before Demerara Guy got a better chance of marrying Hema Malini than your brown South Asian behind have in marrying a white Muslim Arab woman. So keep on with the koolie crab dog self-hate.  You are a despicable bottomless traitor. You are worthy of meeting the grim ripper.

ksazma posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Ksaz, I am not bragging. I know very very little about Hinduism, less than I know about Christianity.

I wasn't insinuating that you are bragging about Hinduism. I was just pointing out that Jesus as detailed in the Bible was like a lungera and didn't do much teaching or doing.

That is only the conclusion if you read  his words with your head and not your understanding. It is clear that he is profound since they have sustained a faith for over 2 thousand years. Jesus is a scholar of his time and a moral teacher par excellence.

What is written of him is also from a viewpoint from those who knew him to those looking back and recounting the historical narrative with respect to their own world view. In all of the canonical gospels they capture a man of great character, enormous charisma and definitely a scholar.

From the beginning to the end of his ministry his words layer the distant past of his people in his presentation with the understanding of their present needs and he always leaves it open ended enough that they matter to others across two thousand years.

It is pure villainy if not absurd posturing to say otherwise.

Nehru posted:

Indian Soldiers are the most humane on the planet. Indian Citizens in INDIA Kashmir were spitting and hitting them while they were carrying AK 47 and they did not KILL any of them. In fact, they just  keep walking. I think it was a great opportunity to send them to 72 Virgins!!!!!!!!

Nehru, have you ever been to India ? If yes, then you have evidently never been to Indian Kashmir or anywhere close to Kashmir ! My work takes me to a wide variety of places all around the world and I have so far been to India on 11 occasions. Except for two visits, both of which were for less than two weeks, every other trip lasted from 3 to 8 weeks and I have been into Kashmir 8 times. The Indian army is unquestionably deliberately brutal and confrontational with the Kashmiris. I, and others who work with me, have personally seen their barbarity first hand several times and there is no other way that I can possibly describe their attitude and behavior. It was particularly painful to see how soldiers treated little children, no older than 10 to 12 years of age, who were on their way home from school. My observations and reports, as well as those of several other colleagues, have been lodged with both the UN and the Indian government. The govt. of India has never even once acknowledged receipt of any of our reports. I do not mind telling you that the attitude and behavior of the Indian army has unquestionable worsened since Modi became India's prime minister.   

Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
ksazma posted:
Prashad posted:

I was reading yesterday of prophets. If there were so many prophets in history then how come none went to India?

Who said none went to India?

The Quran never mentioned any prophet in India nor does it mention Hinduism or any other religions of India.

What a dumb-ass you are; every statement you make, every question you ask clearly indicates you a totally demented !!

The brown South Asian Arab known here as keefer who has a deep hate for his ethnic roots should read this:

www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-r...allah_b_1759049.html

Prashad, what I have seen, learnt and personally experienced, is way beyond your capacity to comprehend or appreciate. Your incessant reference to ethnicity strongly suggest that you were violated by someone who is not of South Asian origin; I therefore believe you badly need psychiatric counselling and guidance ! By the way, do you still envisage Guyana being ethnically partitioned into two different states; one comprised of Essequibo and Berbice and Demerara being the other ? Even your demented grandpappy would have no doubt kicked your rump for putting out such a dumb-ass suggestion ! For the N-th time, I have been to the Indian sub-continent 11 times so advice from you, who barely managed to wiggle out of Guyana, is of nominal value, if any, to me. Maybe I should invite you to tag along with me on my next trip in a few weeks; please note, however, that YOU will need to carry lots and lots of toilet paper with you ! Some of those guys in Tamil Nadu will be delighted to 'meet you' ..... !   

I am telling you what I have seen and heard over the years.  As I said before Demerara Guy got a better chance of marrying Hema Malini than your brown South Asian behind have in marrying a white Muslim Arab woman. So keep on with the koolie crab dog self-hate.  You are a despicable bottomless traitor. You are worthy of meeting the grim ripper.

Prashad, quit your bullshit about brown South Asian, white Arab and your usual claptrap about getting married. I am beginning to think that you are gay and someone rudely violated you; hence your persistence in describing others in ethnic terms ! You have never been anywhere since you absconded from Guyana so quit with your rubbish about self-hate ! Every word you utter is sheer trash; who gives a shit about getting married to Hema Malini, you idiot .... she has been married for many years now !  There is nothing like 'grim ripper', you jackass; the word is REAPER ! Go back to 'lil abc' for another three or four years or so....nobody gives a shyte what you 'said before' ... you are a true, real-life dumb-ass so stop posting rubbish and focus on your toilet-cleaning job ! 

Prashad posted:

Keffer seeing that you are brown as sh-t but in your mind you are a white Arab it is Prashad's job to clean up the sh-t that is you.

So you are now a clairvoyant as well ....get the hell out of here with your white Arab, black Arab, green Arab stupidity ! What a dumb-ass you are ! 

D2 posted:

I often told you, there is the need to discover what is said for its truths and a need to have basic tools to be critical on the onset. One satisfies their needs and creates their world view from these approach. You are in the latter.

Jesus is profound. He is direct. He is simple and penetrating. He connects the distant past of his people to the present and directs them on a path to the future. The sermon on the mount is one of the places one can find all of this and it is where he has the most sustained dialog. It is structurally  the most beautiful poetic  utterances about the principles for a good and  moral approach to living. 

It is the place where most  Christians concentrate on to get the seminal understanding of the faith and it contains some of the worlds most recognizable phrases that practically everyone living has heard them and they immediately grasps its understanding.

It includes the famous beatitudes and the lords prayer.  This section is not only  vast in its scope and profound philosophically; anyone from any religion or not can grasp its truths.

D2, wouldn't you agree that almost everything Christians think of Jesus are what is said of him and not what he actually said or did? No doubt there are volumes written about Jesus but as one analyzes  them it becomes very clear that they are assumptions of who/what Jesus is and not what the Bible actually records him saying or doing. In fact, the negative things he said and did are more clearly recorded in the Bible. Indeed, most of what Christians think of Jesus is what Paul wrote of him and not what he actually did. Don't you agree?

D2 posted:
ksazma posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Ksaz, I am not bragging. I know very very little about Hinduism, less than I know about Christianity.

I wasn't insinuating that you are bragging about Hinduism. I was just pointing out that Jesus as detailed in the Bible was like a lungera and didn't do much teaching or doing.

That is only the conclusion if you read  his words with your head and not your understanding. It is clear that he is profound since they have sustained a faith for over 2 thousand years. Jesus is a scholar of his time and a moral teacher par excellence.

What is written of him is also from a viewpoint from those who knew him to those looking back and recounting the historical narrative with respect to their own world view. In all of the canonical gospels they capture a man of great character, enormous charisma and definitely a scholar.

From the beginning to the end of his ministry his words layer the distant past of his people in his presentation with the understanding of their present needs and he always leaves it open ended enough that they matter to others across two thousand years.

It is pure villainy if not absurd posturing to say otherwise.

While 'understanding' can be what one is taught, his actual words and actions are unfiltered and open to interpretation. That said, I am not in error if I chose to not accept the church's doctrines and rely solely on his unfiltered words and actions.

Regarding his sustainability, remember that for the first 300 years Christianity was an underground cult and did not become mainstream until after it got the backing of the Roman Empire. Even today it survives more because it gets support from the rich part of the world than by its doctrines.

i don't know why you say that he was s man of great character. I saw a person who was bigoted by ignoring anyone who was not a Jew. He called people demeaning names and was even disrespectful to his own mother. People are within their rights to say whatever wonderful things about him even if it is not accurate. Likewise, I am within my rights to use his words and actions unfiltered if I choose to.

Prashad posted:
RiffRaff posted:
Prashad posted:

If Sonu is being disturbed from his sleep by the Imam calls to prayers then he should move. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

SInce it's in India, I really don't think you make much sense...Keffer may right about you after all

When in Rome Keffer will do as the Romans do. He proper like white man.

Yet another statement based on dark, dismal ignorance from this moron Prashad ! It is not the Imam that makes the call you stupid ignoramus ! 

Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
RiffRaff posted:
Prashad posted:

If Sonu is being disturbed from his sleep by the Imam calls to prayers then he should move. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

SInce it's in India, I really don't think you make much sense...Keffer may right about you after all

When in Rome Keffer will do as the Romans do. He proper like white man.

Yet another statement based on dark, dismal ignorance from this moron Prashad ! It is not the Imam that makes the call you stupid ignoramus ! 

Why you Keffer don't go to Pakistan and talk about Pakistani police brutality against Pakistani Kashmir people. Because you know that you will find yourself six feet under. As I said before you are nothing more than a despicable bottomless traitor.

Prashad posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
RiffRaff posted:
Prashad posted:

If Sonu is being disturbed from his sleep by the Imam calls to prayers then he should move. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

SInce it's in India, I really don't think you make much sense...Keffer may right about you after all

When in Rome Keffer will do as the Romans do. He proper like white man.

Yet another statement based on dark, dismal ignorance from this moron Prashad ! It is not the Imam that makes the call you stupid ignoramus ! 

Why you Keffer don't go to Pakistan and talk about Pakistani police brutality against Pakistani Kashmir people. Because you know that you will find yourself six feet under. As I said before you are nothing more than a despicable bottomless traitor.

I have been to Pakistan many times and I am unaware of any problem of police brutality. You, on the other hand, cannot even spell your name properly but you are an expert on just about every subject under discussion. I have been not only to Kashmir in Pakistan but as far north as Chitral; being the idiot that you are, that will mean nothing to you. Despite being developmentally challenged you continue to post rubbish by shoving your snout into subjects of which you are completely ignorant. My advice to you stands; get the hell out of here because you have no capability of making even a minute sensible or rational contribution.

Ksazma, I see no harm in anyone participating in discussions here but a degree of honesty is critical. This dumb-ass writes sheer trash and evidently hopes that by some stroke of fortune, he will earn the respect of other participants. With virtually no exception, everything he posts is contrived garbage ! Just take a minute or two and look over his posts; his favorite being 'as I said before' despite the fact that he said nothing before. Furthermore, he fabricates fantasies about white Arabs, brown Arabs etc; so frequently that I suspect he must have been physically violated by an Arab ! The man is a first class idiot, for no apparent reason/basis suggests that India should cultivate a relationship with Eritrea ... no reason, no effect, no benefit, no logistics but he thinks that is a good idea ! The dumb-ass does not even know where Eritrea is ! What a waste for his father; planting two or three roots of bora would have been more beneficial !   

ksazma posted:
D2 posted:

I often told you, there is the need to discover what is said for its truths and a need to have basic tools to be critical on the onset. One satisfies their needs and creates their world view from these approach. You are in the latter.

Jesus is profound. He is direct. He is simple and penetrating. He connects the distant past of his people to the present and directs them on a path to the future. The sermon on the mount is one of the places one can find all of this and it is where he has the most sustained dialog. It is structurally  the most beautiful poetic  utterances about the principles for a good and  moral approach to living. 

It is the place where most  Christians concentrate on to get the seminal understanding of the faith and it contains some of the worlds most recognizable phrases that practically everyone living has heard them and they immediately grasps its understanding.

It includes the famous beatitudes and the lords prayer.  This section is not only  vast in its scope and profound philosophically; anyone from any religion or not can grasp its truths.

D2, wouldn't you agree that almost everything Christians think of Jesus are what is said of him and not what he actually said or did? No doubt there are volumes written about Jesus but as one analyzes  them it becomes very clear that they are assumptions of who/what Jesus is and not what the Bible actually records him saying or doing. In fact, the negative things he said and did are more clearly recorded in the Bible. Indeed, most of what Christians think of Jesus is what Paul wrote of him and not what he actually did. Don't you agree?

  • Based on the account in the Bible, Jesus did not teach much and did even less.

That is what I am responding to now. The other digression can wait. I give you specific examples of his profundity. I said he was conscious of his theological legacy and punctuated his preaching with emphasis on how what was discussed mattered and in general terms that they are prescient across time and across cultures.

Pauline theosophy is another thing for another time but there I disagree with you also because while he did indeed impressed a world view on Christianity it was in the methodology of his proselytizing and not because he invented christian history or words for Jesus.

Paul was a an educated jew and his arguments with James and the Jerusalem church and his confronting of Peter in Antioch was to emphasize Christ and Christianity not Judaism even if he admits to a continuum.  Anyway the above is what concerns me. I do not have time but will respond as time permits.

I saw with my own eyes in PakIstan captured held Kashmir a Kashmir independence supporter be beaten like a dog with bamboo sticks by Pakistani police. But this traitor Keffer turns a blind eye because he knows if he speaks up then the Canadian embassy will have to bring his body back in a box back from Pakistan.

 

Prashad posted:

I saw with my own eyes in PakIstan captured held Kashmir a Kashmir independence supporter be beaten like a dog with bamboo sticks by Pakistani police. But this traitor Keffer turns a blind eye because he knows if he speaks up then the Canadian embassy will have to bring his body back in a box back from Pakistan.

 

Tell us how, despite the fact that you have never been to Kashmir, you were able to see as far away as Pakistan 'with my own eyes', dumb-ass ? There is no independence movement in Azad Kashmir, you moron ! Why don't you post the supporting references ? Post them if you have balls or is there just kaka in your thick skull !  

Incidentally D2, that is my current position about Jesus. As I look at his words and actions listed in the Bible I find it interesting that someone described as gentle would express such disdains for so many just because they were not part of his inner circle. Consider his dismissal of the dead with his "let the dead bury the dead" comment to list one. You are familiar with all of them so I wouldn't bore you with them. The negatives of his words and actions far outweigh the positives in my opinion. There was a 1979 book called the 100 which listed Paul as third most influential person in history ahead of Jesus and the author posited that Paul is more influential to Christianity than Jesus. Jesus is more the shadow leader while Paul is the actual leader and that is easy to see as preachers quote Paul much more than they do Jesus or God.

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