Refugees don't kill Americans

Bibi Haniffa should have posted:

If tomorrow all the things were gone
I'd worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife

I'd thank my lucky stars
To be living here today
Cause the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that away

And I'm proud to be a Guyanese
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me

And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless Guyana

From the lakes of Tapacuma
To the hills of Rupununi
Across the plains of Demerara
From sea to shining river

From Berbice down to Houston,
And Lethem to G.T
Well there's pride in every Guyanese heart
And its time we stand and say

That I'm proud to be a Guyanese

Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me

And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless Guyana

And I'm proud to be a Berbician
Where at least I know I'm free.
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me

And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless Guyana

Zed posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Nehru posted:

To compare Roosevelt to an Orange Orangutan is like saying the PNC is like Mother Theresa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you kidding me?  Teddy Roosevelt would not have been as nice as Trump.  He was the man who fought the Spanish American War that took the super power from Spain and gave it to America.  He was a patriot to the bone.  Terrorism would have been non-existent in America today if he was President.

Come on, Bibi, I expect better. This is a puerile form of argument, cannot be proven. Wild guesses!

I try to stay away from stupidity...even though we have a very stupid President with ah bunch of ignorant followers

Gilbakka posted:
Bibi Haniffa should have posted:

If tomorrow all the things were gone
I'd worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife

I'd thank my lucky stars
To be living here today
Cause the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that away

And I'm proud to be a Guyanese
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me

And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless Guyana

From the lakes of Tapacuma
To the hills of Rupununi
Across the plains of Demerara
From sea to shining river

From Berbice down to Houston,
And Lethem to G.T
Well there's pride in every Guyanese heart
And its time we stand and say

That I'm proud to be a Guyanese

Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me

And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless Guyana

And I'm proud to be a Berbician
Where at least I know I'm free.
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me

And I gladly stand up
Next to you and defend her still today
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land
God bless Guyana

Haha.  I love it.  You can tek me outa Guyana but you can't tek Guyana outa me!!!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

I will not deny that.  Many who came before paved the way and made sacrifices with hard work.  So why should the refugees come and live off freeness?

Excellent observation Bibi. So why don't you feel as obligated to pave the way for others just like those who paved the way for you.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
 

You don't give the enemy the upper hand.  They had it for too long.  Trump struck while the iron was hot.  No one saw it coming. This should have been done a long time ago and many innocent lives would have been saved from terrorism.

So how are we going to deal with that top line Bibi? How do we save lives there. Ban anyone who owns a gun?

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Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted: Come on, Bibi. Dish out some ALTERNATIVE FACTS to Ksazma.

This is not my problem.  Trump will give you all the answers soon. 

Trump? He's on a downward-sloping presidential learning curve. But blissfully carrying on smartly.

ksazma posted:

Bibi I a really disappointed that you don't have any opinion on my question above regarding the even clearer and more present danger of gun violence than terrorism.

Sorry to disappoint you.  I honestly don't know much about the statistics of gun violence in America or anywhere else.  I can only comment on what I know.  But are we talking about gun violence or the ban on refugees? 

RiffRaff posted:

Native born Americans take more advantage of the welfare system than refugees do...

This is their country. Do you prefer they pass on the welfare system and leave the benefits for refugees? Some of these refugees don't work a day here and get full medical, housing and other benefits for the rest of their lives. And yes, some Guyanese do it too.

ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I will not deny that.  Many who came before paved the way and made sacrifices with hard work.  So why should the refugees come and live off freeness?

Excellent observation Bibi. So why don't you feel as obligated to pave the way for others just like those who paved the way for you.

Kaz - why don't you think I am paving the way for others to follow?  Me, my parents, and my siblings and our extended family live primarily in three countries - Canada, America, and Guyana.  I was an educator in Guyana and I have worked every single day of my life since I was 18 years old.  I provide mentorship and financial donations to several Guyanese community groups including an orphanage in the neighborhood where I grew up.

My family in Guyana have served the government for three generations.  One of my sisters in your state of Florida works for the Department of Education and helps to design the High School Math curriculum, pick the text books, and write the Math exams for the students.

We are paving the way, a little at a time.  It may not be much, but we are trying.

skeldon_man posted:
RiffRaff posted:

Native born Americans take more advantage of the welfare system than refugees do...

This is their country. Do you prefer they pass on the welfare system and leave the benefits for refugees? Some of these refugees don't work a day here and get full medical, housing and other benefits for the rest of their lives. And yes, some Guyanese do it too.

I did not say they shouldn't, just responding to Amral who was making the point that refugees were raping the economy...

 

Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I will not deny that.  Many who came before paved the way and made sacrifices with hard work.  So why should the refugees come and live off freeness?

Excellent observation Bibi. So why don't you feel as obligated to pave the way for others just like those who paved the way for you.

Kaz - why don't you think I am paving the way for others to follow?  Me, my parents, and my siblings and our extended family live primarily in three countries - Canada, America, and Guyana.  I was an educator in Guyana and I have worked every single day of my life since I was 18 years old.  I provide mentorship and financial donations to several Guyanese community groups including an orphanage in the neighborhood where I grew up.

My family in Guyana have served the government for three generations.  One of my sisters in your state of Florida works for the Department of Education and helps to design the High School Math curriculum, pick the text books, and write the Math exams for the students.

We are paving the way, a little at a time.  It may not be much, but we are trying.

I am sorry Bibi. I misread your comment above.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:

Bibi I a really disappointed that you don't have any opinion on my question above regarding the even clearer and more present danger of gun violence than terrorism.

Sorry to disappoint you.  I honestly don't know much about the statistics of gun violence in America or anywhere else.  I can only comment on what I know.  But are we talking about gun violence or the ban on refugees? 

We were talking about the safety of Americans. Gun violence will kill them faster than terrorists will.

You are probably right.  I don't know.  In the meantime, we should allow the President of the United States to do his job.  Terrorism is real.  Many previous administrations in the US have taken similar steps before and no one said a word.  Let us take religion and emotion out of this decision-making.  This list was determined by the Department of Homeland Security under the Obama administration. 

You are one of the brightest and most objective guys on this forum.  I have watched you stay out of the hate mongering and lies pushed by others.  So I do respect what you are saying.

RiffRaff posted:

How can someone arguing about violence and terror in America not know about gun violence and the amount of people killed by gun violence??

 

I don't have much interest in gun violence because I don't think I can make a difference.  I am sure I can do research and answer lots of the questions if I want.

My participation on this thread is because I am very concerned by the hatred spread in our community that Trump is banning Muslims.  We have to be careful.  Those countries are primarily Muslim populated, but as Guyanese we always have to twist the story lil bit to achieve unintended consequences.  We are spreading a lot of unnecessary fear especially among the elderly, uneducated, and misinformed. 

What are you saying then...as Guyanese we should not be concerned about Trump banning people? 

That's the problem with some Guyanese thinking, they don't want to get involved, they are all about themselves...no wonder Burnham, and now Granger have the upper hand

 

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