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July 5, 2015 6:03 am Category: Politics A+ / A-

Former President Donald Ramotar.

Former President Donald Ramotar.

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Former Executive Member of the People’s Progressive Party, Ralph Ramkarran has revealed that former President Donald Ramotar only received nine out of 35 votes within the Party’s executive to return to the National Assembly as Opposition Leader.

Ramkarran made the disclosure in his weekly blog, where he detailed that the PPP has lost its way by choosing Former President Bharrat Jagdeo to be opposition Leader, noting that the young Members of Parliament will merely be “window dressing.”

See the full context of Ramkarran’s blog below.

The selection of Dr. Bharrat Jagdeo by the Central Committee of the PPP as its nominee for Opposition Leader seals that party’s fate in opposition for decades to come, unless the APNU+AFC coalition under performs or unravels. The PPP has been shattered by defeat, its leadership disgraced by corruption and it has lost the sympathy of the international community through abuse, corruption and the refusal to hold local government elections.

Ralph Ramkarran.

Ralph Ramkarran.

With no intention by the ruling clique of giving up power, the return of its younger MPs and a sprinkling of new faces to Parliament, would be mere window dressing. This new generation of leaders stands no chance of influencing policy to rebuild the PPP or unite the country. The recently expressed views by Dr. Vindhi Persaud as to the way forward for the PPP in her recently published email and its rejection symbolise the impotence that this group will face.

Dr. Jagdeo’s name emerged initially from among the ruling clique in the Executive Committee. In the contest between Dr. Jagdeo and Mr. Ramotar at the Central Committee, Donald Ramotar received only 9 votes of 35 voting members. It must have been hugely embarrassing. Being fought down by Dr. Jagdeo, his mentor, at whose instance, and not through popular sentiment, he became the presidential candidate in 2011, would have been a bitter pill to swallow, especially since he is the immediate past president.

Worse was the virtual abandonment of him by the Central Committee of which he was general secretary for 15 years. Mr. Ramotar ignored the fact that Dr. Jagdeo’s insatiable ego cannot be satisfied by fraternal considerations or rational calculations. In any event, Mr. Ramotar apparently did not realize that with the loss of two elections and Dr. Jagdeo’s grip on the leadership, his political career was over.

Former President Bharrat Jagdeo

Former President Bharrat Jagdeo

Mr. Ramotar long ago ceded authority to Dr. Jagdeo. He therefore has no one but himself to blame for his loss of influence in the Central Committee. Mr. Ramotar may accept the humiliation of rejection and soldier on with diminished influence, likely without a Parliamentary seat, as he would have to bear the embarrassment of an immediate past president sitting at third place behind Dr. Jagdeo and Mr. Rohee. He would justify continued low-level activism by deluding himself that he is maintaining party unity. This has always been the answer to his failure to respond to Dr. Jagdeo’s most egregious behavior. This silent approbation allowed serious schisms to arise within the Party, which remained unaddressed.

The worst was the resignations of Ramjattan and Nagamootoo that led directly to the PPP’s loss of power. This damage to the PPP, Mr. Ramotar’s ill-fated decision to seek the candidacy for president in 2011, despite Dr. Jagdeo’s support and the ruling clique’s rejection of a national unity government, have together brought the PPP to its knees.

In his early fifties, Dr. Jagdeo will retain his hold on the leadership for at least the next 20 years, while still trying to secure a third term. He never intended to stand aside despite his promises. It means that an entire generation of younger leaders will have no chance of aspiring to leadership or influencing the party’s direction. Since the spoils of office are no longer available to be granted or taken away, there would be a limit to the success of his methods of leadership. In any event his continued grip on power and greed for the limelight will smother younger leaders and denude the PPP of talent, leaving it with sycophants and as an ineffective opposition force. Eventually, he will again choose the next leader.

By electing Dr. Jagdeo, the Central Committee seems prepared to abide by his methods of abuse, control and sycophancy. He sees himself as the most gifted and charismatic intellect and strategist who will save the PPP and Guyana. His and the leadership’s vision is of a ceaseless ‘struggle’ against the ‘PNC’ and ‘rigged elections’ and no compromise with the ‘de facto government.’ Primary to the strategy will be a defence of his record – what he would pompously refer to as his legacy. He will also try to convince supporters that they were robbed thereby perpetuating a sense of victimhood. This will ensure the persistence of the national ethnic contest. Exploited so effectively in the campaign, the PPP no doubt now sees as the strategy of choice.

The PPP has made, arguably, the most egregious blunder in its entire history by failing to implement Cheddi Jagan’s ‘shared governance’ or ‘winner does not take all’ policies in political conditions in 2011 where it could have been easily sold to its supporters. The PPP would have had to make fundamental concessions and share power in circumstances of equality where it would not ‘dominate or be dominated’ – a policy also advocated by Jagan.

The national unity thereby created would have transformed Guyana and revolutionized our politics. Our nation would once again have been able to aspire to 1950 and bring within reach our motto of ‘One People, One Nation, One Destiny.’ But President Ramotar had made it plain in 2011 that power sharing ‘would not happen.’ The ruling clique of the PPP has deliberately killed the dream of unity and is on its way to Parliament to bury it.

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Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Jjagdeo was chosen because he is the only person in the central committee who can stand up to PNC aggression. He will also rejuvenate the party and get rid of the old farts like Ramoutar.

 

The PPP is a dead political party chap. For the foreseeable future, Guyana has the PNC.

FM

Interesting!

 

Donald, former president and recently a presidential candidate, can only muster a mere 9 votes!

 

Why was he the Presidential Candidate? His only party members does not support him?  Or was someone else running major interference? 

Vish M
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Jjagdeo was chosen because he is the only person in the central committee who can stand up to PNC aggression. He will also rejuvenate the party and get rid of the old farts like Ramoutar.

 

The PPP is a dead political party chap. For the foreseeable future, Guyana has the PNC.

Don't be idiotic!

R
Originally Posted by Vish M:

Interesting!

 

Donald, former president and recently a presidential candidate, can only muster a mere 9 votes!

 

Why was he the Presidential Candidate? His only party members does not support him?  Or was someone else running major interference? 

He lost two elections.

R
Originally Posted by VVP:

Ramotar is "Representative of the List" for the PPP. He can remove Jagdeo form the list, right?

In theory.

In practice, Jagdeo and his other 25 CC acolytes go slap and kick he up well and prappa.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VVP:

Ramotar is "Representative of the List" for the PPP. He can remove Jagdeo form the list, right?

In theory.

In practice, Jagdeo and his other 25 CC acolytes go slap and kick he up well and prappa.

 

Well at least as Representative of the List and former Presidential candidate he has to be seated as an MP. So we will have the privilege of seeing two PPP Presidents on the Opposition benches. Of course he can immediately resign his seat.

FM
Upon review of the PPP/C last election, is it Donald Ramoutar that lost the election?
 
Review the votes and the ads prior to the election.
 
We live in NA and as such we need not be blind.
 
Free speech is protected!
 
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Vish M:

Interesting!

 

Donald, former president and recently a presidential candidate, can only muster a mere 9 votes!

 

Why was he the Presidential Candidate? His only party members does not support him?  Or was someone else running major interference? 

He lost two elections.

 

Vish M
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VVP:

Ramotar is "Representative of the List" for the PPP. He can remove Jagdeo form the list, right?

In theory.

In practice, Jagdeo and his other 25 CC acolytes go slap and kick he up well and prappa.

 

Well at least as Representative of the List and former Presidential candidate he has to be seated as an MP. So we will have the privilege of seeing two PPP Presidents on the Opposition benches. Of course he can immediately resign his seat.

The appearance of the new PPP team in the parliament will be more interesting to watch than a WI vs India test match. Lotsa no-balls, googly, bouncer etc go come into play. De old umpire/speaker Scotland go run fo cover.

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Eight votes not bad.

Jagdeo will now expelled those eight jackasses..

 

To a coward, all acts of bravery are stupid and beyond reason.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Eight votes not bad.

Jagdeo will now expelled those eight jackasses..

 

To a coward, all acts of bravery are stupid and beyond reason.

B/S.  discipline is the thing.  Jagdeo is captain Bligh.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Eight votes not bad.

Jagdeo will now expelled those eight jackasses..

 

To a coward, all acts of bravery are stupid and beyond reason.

B/S.  discipline is the thing.  Jagdeo is captain Bligh.

 

Discipline? You think that a bunch of antiman moaning the same anthem is "discipline"?

 

Thank God, no sensible army or government subscribes to this PPP notion of "discipline"

 

No wonder ayuh are the Party of Stupid.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Eight votes not bad.

Jagdeo will now expelled those eight jackasses..

 

To a coward, all acts of bravery are stupid and beyond reason.

B/S.  discipline is the thing.  Jagdeo is captain Bligh.

 

Discipline? You think that a bunch of antiman moaning the same anthem is "discipline"?

 

Thank God, no sensible army or government subscribes to this PPP notion of "discipline"

 

No wonder ayuh are the Party of Stupid.

They must be stupid because they have the seat of government and they lost the election.  That's what you get for trusting the PNC.

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Eight votes not bad.

Jagdeo will now expelled those eight jackasses..

 

To a coward, all acts of bravery are stupid and beyond reason.

B/S.  discipline is the thing.  Jagdeo is captain Bligh.

 

Discipline? You think that a bunch of antiman moaning the same anthem is "discipline"?

 

Thank God, no sensible army or government subscribes to this PPP notion of "discipline"

 

No wonder ayuh are the Party of Stupid.

They must be stupid because they have the seat of government and they lost the election.  That's what you get for trusting the PNC.

 

LMAO!

 

Trusting the PNC? Since when is politics the business of trust? Oh Bhagwan, I wish I went to Akkabre just for the laughs.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Eight votes not bad.

Jagdeo will now expelled those eight jackasses..

 

To a coward, all acts of bravery are stupid and beyond reason.

B/S.  discipline is the thing.  Jagdeo is captain Bligh.

 

Discipline? You think that a bunch of antiman moaning the same anthem is "discipline"?

 

Thank God, no sensible army or government subscribes to this PPP notion of "discipline"

 

No wonder ayuh are the Party of Stupid.

They must be stupid because they have the seat of government and they lost the election.  That's what you get for trusting the PNC.

 

LMAO!

 

Trusting the PNC? Since when is politics the business of trust? Oh Bhagwan, I wish I went to Akkabre just for the laughs.

Stop your crap.   You did go there...

R
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:
Originally Posted by Prashad:
Eight votes not bad.

Jagdeo will now expelled those eight jackasses..

 

To a coward, all acts of bravery are stupid and beyond reason.

B/S.  discipline is the thing.  Jagdeo is captain Bligh.

 

Discipline? You think that a bunch of antiman moaning the same anthem is "discipline"?

 

Thank God, no sensible army or government subscribes to this PPP notion of "discipline"

 

No wonder ayuh are the Party of Stupid.

They must be stupid because they have the seat of government and they lost the election.  That's what you get for trusting the PNC.

 

LMAO!

 

Trusting the PNC? Since when is politics the business of trust? Oh Bhagwan, I wish I went to Akkabre just for the laughs.

Stop your crap.   You did go there...

 

Thankfully, I got a real education and real military and political experience.

FM
Originally Posted by Vish M:

 

July 5, 2015 6:03 am Category: Politics A+ / A-

Former President Donald Ramotar.

Former President Donald Ramotar.

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Former Executive Member of the People’s Progressive Party, Ralph Ramkarran has revealed that former President Donald Ramotar only received nine out of 35 votes within the Party’s executive to return to the National Assembly as Opposition Leader.

Ramkarran made the disclosure in his weekly blog, where he detailed that the PPP has lost its way by choosing Former President Bharrat Jagdeo to be opposition Leader, noting that the young Members of Parliament will merely be “window dressing.”

If you live in glass house and much more:Ramkarran is corrupt in every way.Now speaking from the pulpit of the church.He is now playing to the red and light skinned blacks as no decent Indian wants him around,Perhaps his color makes him want to join the de facto Government. Perhaps Ahir, perhaps Chamar or Madrasi.Dont know.His bbehavior makes me think that he is Chamar. There is no difference between Ramkarran and Negromotoo all corrupt intellectually all for themselves. Guess he will turn on the de facto government soon ,he did so much for them yet he has been offerred nothing in return. ..............One of the first to try to rebut Jagdeo’s explanation was Ralph Ramkarran, whose bitterness at Jagdeo had festered since he had left the People’s Progressive Party (PPP/C), blaming the former President for Ramotar being chosen as the PPP/C’s Presidential Candidate in 2011 rather than him. He refused to accept that his erstwhile comrades had great resentment for his resentment in refusing to become a Minister under Jagan in 1992, because he felt under the new PPP/C Government more business would be steered his company’s way. Ramkarran even refused to take the role as a Minister of Government when Jagan offered him in 1992, because he wanted more pay, making it clear that a Minister’s salary was below his expectations. He also demanded another ‘salary’, wanting all Government’s legal business go through his law firm, Cameron and Shepherd. He also turned down another offer when Janet Jagan became President, citing similar financial reasons. Most germanely, what made even some who were still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt was that Attorney General Anil Nandalall had only recently made a presentation to the Executive Committee of the party, detailing two alleged financial fraud scandals in which Ramkarran had been the central figure. The matters involves a Trinidadian woman, Sherene Mongroo, who has strong Guyanese connections, and is still fighting to rescue her father’s estate, believed to be valued in the tens of millions of US dollars. The North Road mansion of the late former President Hugh Desmond Hoyte The North Road mansion of the late former President Hugh Desmond Hoyte Fingered characters include members of her own family, a prominent Caribbean banker, an airline employee, medical doctors and various attorneys including Ramkarran. The case is currently before the courts in Guyana and is also under continued investigation. Ironically, Ramkarran is one of the attorneys appearing in the case.

FM

He is now playing to the red and light skinned blacks as no decent Indian wants him around,Perhaps his color makes him want to join the de facto Government. Perhaps Ahir, perhaps Chamar or Madrasi.Dont know.His bbehavior makes me think that he is Chamar. There is no difference between Ramkarran and Negromotoo all corrupt

 

I would sit and break bread with those men before sitting with you if that is your belief. You are an ignorant, moron pretending to be laying an argument with some moral standing when you are up to your hocks in the same racist backward ignorant amoral shit.

FM

This is an interesting development that revokes real discussion.

 

Why is it we need that "Above crap" .  Time for meaningful discussion.

 

IS Jagdeo good for Guyana 2020 and beyond.

 

Why the exodus from the PPP/C?

 

Is their only way back will be the "failure of the Allainace", a "Race War", other some other extreme events?

 

 

Vish M

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