Deep fear created over prospect of future elections – Fmr Speaker

This will end up at the CC court of Justice. Thankfully, there is time until 2020 comes along before the PNC thugs and scumbags face the power of the people at the ballot with free and fair elections.

"He insisted that the Constitution provides thus: “If the Leader of the Opposition FAILS to submit a list as provided for,” only then can the President proceed unilaterally to make an appointment of a judge, former judge, or person qualified to be a judge to the post of GECOM Chairman.
Ramkarran pointed out that the Opposition Leader had submitted a list which was amended twice by the substitution of names. He said that in that case, the Opposition Leader did not fail to submit a list, and the President’s appointment is therefore void."

Every time Guyana has a Afro President, they have to fight for free and fair elections.

Burnham, Hoyte and now Granger.

Why ?

ALL elections under the PPP were CERTIFIED free and fair.

alena06 posted:

Deep fear created over prospect of future elections – Fmr Speaker

October 23, 2017,  

 

Ramkarran pointed out that the Opposition Leader had submitted a list which was amended twice by the substitution of names. He said that in that case, the Opposition Leader did not fail to submit a list, and the President’s appointment is therefore void.

Gist of the issue on hand.

alena06 posted:

Deep fear created over prospect of future elections – Fmr Speaker

October 23, 2017

Following the announcement that President David Granger had unilaterally selected a new Chairman for the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) in the person of Justice (retd) James Patterson, there has been much debate and controversy surrounding the legality of such a move.

He insisted that the Constitution provides thus: “If the Leader of the Opposition FAILS to submit a list as provided for,” only then can the President proceed unilaterally to make an appointment of a judge, former judge, or person qualified to be a judge to the post of GECOM Chairman.

Noted and is the basis of all the issue and dialogues.

The PPP is wasting precious time going to court. It's Granger way or no way. 

While an action is improper, one needs to pursue the matter in stages and eventually through the courts.

yuji22 posted:

This will end up at the CC court of Justice. 

Bet you not. The CCJ is going to say that this is quite clear. 

Don't cry that Jagdeo amended the constitution in a manner that would have benefitted him but it turned out that the PPP lost the election, and now he finds himself in the position of being leader of the opposition.

Jagdeo inserted that because he had no interest in selecting some black person chosen by the PNC because he knew full well that his "coolie people party" could never accept any black person being in charge of the electoral process.  

The PNC knew this so ensured that they put in Indians who they trusted, knowing that the PPP would only select an Indian.

Demerara_Guy posted:

While an action is improper, one needs to pursue the matter in stages and eventually through the courts.

And the courts will tell Jagdeo that if he developed a crooked deal, thinking that he would be "president for life" the fact that this didn't happen isn't something that the courts can be involved in.

The FILTH HEADS DUNCES hoping Ramkarran( A brilliant Attorney) is wrong and their Massa (A GADAHA) is right. Talk about SLAVES being loyal!!!

yuji22 posted:

Every time Guyana has a Afro President, they have to fight for free and fair elections.

Burnham, Hoyte and now Granger.

Why ?

ALL elections under the PPP were CERTIFIED free and fair.

yuji22, at a time like this pro-democracy forces need the broadest-based support and participation for victory. Not advisable to bring in Afro or Indo talk. That will isolate Afro support from our cause: free and fair elections.

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

Every time Guyana has a Afro President, they have to fight for free and fair elections.

Burnham, Hoyte and now Granger.

Why ?

ALL elections under the PPP were CERTIFIED free and fair.

yuji22, at a time like this pro-democracy forces need the broadest-based support and participation for victory. Not advisable to bring in Afro or Indo talk. That will isolate Afro support from our cause: free and fair elections.

Carib will disagree with you because every issue in Guyana has to evaluated in his terms of Coolie and Black, whereby, Coolie always take advantage of blacks.

Gilbakka posted:

That will isolate Afro support from our cause: free and fair elections.

Until you all dump the racist Jagdeo Afros are isolated from this cause.

Its over to you. Get rid of Jagdeo, a man who has a pathological hatred of blacks!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Gilbakka 

Carib will disagree with you because every issue in Guyana has to evaluated in his terms of Coolie and Black, whereby, Coolie always take advantage of blacks.

Hmmm. I see so you can spend all day chatting about the "plight of Indians from this Afro gov't", but I mustn't inject the fact that the PPP has been terrible to blacks.

Now I know being clannish in nature its impossible for you to be objective, but at least try.

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

Every time Guyana has a Afro President, they have to fight for free and fair elections.

Burnham, Hoyte and now Granger.

Why ?

ALL elections under the PPP were CERTIFIED free and fair.

yuji22, at a time like this pro-democracy forces need the broadest-based support and participation for victory. Not advisable to bring in Afro or Indo talk. That will isolate Afro support from our cause: free and fair elections.

Gil,

The reason is why we are at this sad state today is because many including yourself failed to call a spade a spade and supported the AFC.

Black PNC Presidents have a history of rigging elections and becoming dictators, Granger is no exception.

Going forward, it is important that we are clear on that we need to bring out in the open. Speaking the truth is what must be done today.

Now, the Afro PNC leadership are accusing the PPP off having Indos as head of GECOM during the PPP's term in office, well, no election was rigged under the PPP.

I prefer to call a spade a spade.

I have made it abundantly clear that Jagdeo will eventually have to go and I support a Black or mixed leader for the PPP going forward into 2020.

The problem is with Black PNC Presidents  and nothing has changed in all of these years, every time a Black PNC President emerges, the country has to fight for free and fair elections and that is the absolute truth.

Yuji22

yuji22 posted:

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

Every time Guyana has a Afro President, they have to fight for free and fair elections.

Burnham, Hoyte and now Granger.

Why ?

ALL elections under the PPP were CERTIFIED free and fair.

yuji22, at a time like this pro-democracy forces need the broadest-based support and participation for victory. Not advisable to bring in Afro or Indo talk. That will isolate Afro support from our cause: free and fair elections.

Gil,

 

The problem is with Black PNC Presidents  and nothing has changed in all of these years, every time a Black PNC President emerges, the country has to fight for free and fair elections and that is the absolute truth.

Yuji22

What are the ominous dark clouds hanging over free and fair elections in Guyana ?

The commission has,Three (3) members appointed by the President acting on the advice of the Leader of the Opposition after he has meaningfully consulted the non-governmental opposition parties represented in the National Assembly.

Will the three members be toothless ?

more info here

caribny posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Gilbakka 

Carib will disagree with you because every issue in Guyana has to evaluated in his terms of Coolie and Black, whereby, Coolie always take advantage of blacks.

Hmmm. I see so you can spend all day chatting about the "plight of Indians from this Afro gov't", but I mustn't inject the fact that the PPP has been terrible to blacks.

Now I know being clannish in nature its impossible for you to be objective, but at least try.

Bannas yuh deh pun dis nonsense again even though I schooled you.  

In fact the PPP were too appeasing to Blacks, giving them free electricity and other benefits at the expense of other Indos. Why you think slop can boy and the rest of them Indos join up the AFC, discontent among the Indos as PPP channel funds to blacks. 

I even schooled you about the black people saying Jagdeo is the father of the nation and he gave them milk while pnc gave black tea. 

yuji22 posted:

Gil,

The reason is why we are at this sad state today is because many including yourself failed to call a spade a spade and supported the AFC.

That was and still is a blessing for Guyana the PPP had to go. 

Django posted:

yuji22 posted:

Gilbakka posted:

yuji22 posted:

Every time Guyana has a Afro President, they have to fight for free and fair elections.

Burnham, Hoyte and now Granger.

Why ?

ALL elections under the PPP were CERTIFIED free and fair.

yuji22, at a time like this pro-democracy forces need the broadest-based support and participation for victory. Not advisable to bring in Afro or Indo talk. That will isolate Afro support from our cause: free and fair elections.

Gil,

 

The problem is with Black PNC Presidents  and nothing has changed in all of these years, every time a Black PNC President emerges, the country has to fight for free and fair elections and that is the absolute truth.

Yuji22

What are the ominous dark clouds hanging over free and fair elections in Guyana ?

The commission has,Three (3) members appointed by the President acting on the advice of the Leader of the Opposition after he has meaningfully consulted the non-governmental opposition parties represented in the National Assembly.

Will the three members be toothless ?

more info here

GECOM Chairman Patterson has the casting vote in the event of a tie, giving APNU 4 votes against PPP 3.