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Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo was Friday morning unequivocal that his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) is first appealing to its traditional East Indian support base before reaching across to other segments of the society for political support-base.

“There is no hidden agenda here. Everyone knows where the bulk of the support of the two parties come from – APNU and PPP. A significant amount of our support comes from rural folks and Indo-Guyanese,” he said when asked whether the PPP has become an ethnic party.

Speaking with reporters outside St. John’s College, Waterloo Street, Georgetown where he cast his ballot in Local Government Elections, the former Guyanese leader said while non-traditional support has grown in areas such as Linden, Georgetown and New Amsterdam where infrastructural work was done, his party had failed in its political work while in office from 1992 to 2015. “Sometimes you do a lot of civil works but if you don’t follow up with the political work you don’t get the sort of benefit,” he said, adding that opponents portray a  skewed view of development.

He noted that the PPPC’s votes have grown in Linden, Region 10 from two percent in 1992 to 24 percent in 2006 but declined to about 17 percent in the 2011 and 2016 general and regional elections because his party had neglected the momentum there. “We intend to resume work once we first of all consolidate the base to work in areas that traditionally vote for us because we have significant successes in those votes,” he added.

Jagdeo reiterated that the PPPC’s priority immediately after the Local Government Elections is to intensify its campaign in both PPPC and APNU areas to regain the seat of central government. “We need to consolidate our base but we need to work hard in APNU-controlled areas to explain to people that our policies are good for everyone-all of the people of the country and that they have nothing and that they had nothing to fear in the past with us being in power, they have nothing to fear with us resuming power and that we value their support too,” he said. The PPP intends to attract more women, youth and older folks to join and support the PPPC.

Meanwhile, the former Guyanese leader hoped that the state-owned Guyana Sugar Corporation would give workers time-off to vote in Friday’s (March 18, 2016) Local Government Elections being held for the first time in 23 years.  “We know that is not an institutional instruction but that will be huge for us if it turns out to be true because the sugar-belt traditionally supported the PPP,” he said.

Jagdeo acknowledged that the turnout at local government elections up to 10 AM was poor, partly because of the fact that government has not declared polling day a National Holiday. Some observers forecast that more persons would cast their ballots late Friday afternoon after they would have returned home from work.

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Mars posted:

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PPPC consolidating East Indian support base

 
Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo was Friday morning unequivocal that his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) is first appealing to its traditional East Indian support base

Jagdeo admits that the PPP is a "coolie people party".

FM
Mars posted:

http://demerarawaves.com/2016/...indian-support-base/

PPPC consolidating East Indian support base

 
Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo was Friday morning unequivocal that his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) is first appealing to its traditional East Indian support base before reaching across to other segments of the society for political support-base.

“There is no hidden agenda here. Everyone knows where the bulk of the support of the two parties come from – APNU and PPP. A significant amount of our support comes from rural folks and Indo-Guyanese,” he said when asked whether the PPP has become an ethnic party.

Speaking with reporters outside St. John’s College, Waterloo Street, Georgetown where he cast his ballot in Local Government Elections, the former Guyanese leader said while non-traditional support has grown in areas such as Linden, Georgetown and New Amsterdam where infrastructural work was done, his party had failed in its political work while in office from 1992 to 2015. “Sometimes you do a lot of civil works but if you don’t follow up with the political work you don’t get the sort of benefit,” he said, adding that opponents portray a  skewed view of development.

He noted that the PPPC’s votes have grown in Linden, Region 10 from two percent in 1992 to 24 percent in 2006 but declined to about 17 percent in the 2011 and 2016 general and regional elections because his party had neglected the momentum there. “We intend to resume work once we first of all consolidate the base to work in areas that traditionally vote for us because we have significant successes in those votes,” he added.

Jagdeo reiterated that the PPPC’s priority immediately after the Local Government Elections is to intensify its campaign in both PPPC and APNU areas to regain the seat of central government. “We need to consolidate our base but we need to work hard in APNU-controlled areas to explain to people that our policies are good for everyone-all of the people of the country and that they have nothing and that they had nothing to fear in the past with us being in power, they have nothing to fear with us resuming power and that we value their support too,” he said. The PPP intends to attract more women, youth and older folks to join and support the PPPC.

Meanwhile, the former Guyanese leader hoped that the state-owned Guyana Sugar Corporation would give workers time-off to vote in Friday’s (March 18, 2016) Local Government Elections being held for the first time in 23 years.  “We know that is not an institutional instruction but that will be huge for us if it turns out to be true because the sugar-belt traditionally supported the PPP,” he said.

Jagdeo acknowledged that the turnout at local government elections up to 10 AM was poor, partly because of the fact that government has not declared polling day a National Holiday. Some observers forecast that more persons would cast their ballots late Friday afternoon after they would have returned home from work.

You finally return to Planet Earth and discover this.  

Same article was posted last week on this forum...

FM
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ian posted:
 

You finally return to Planet Earth and discover this.  

Same article was posted last week. 

Yes. Jagdeo thinking that he can claim that the PPP is an explicitly East Indian party, and think that he can win elections.

Now some would think that he should have used LGE as an opportunity to move beyond his base, given that the PPP was accused of running a racist campaign last.

But sole focus on East Indian areas, where PPP victory was assured (given that seats are on a winner take all basis), led to the PPP losing ground in Amerindian areas, and failing to take advantage of the disaffection towards the coalition which is occurring in PNC strongholds.

But with Bobby and Ravi Dev as his advisers, no wonder Jagdeo can even admit that the PPP is a "Coolie people party".  So why should non Indians view the PPP credibly, when its main focus is the Indian vote?

FM
ian posted:
Mars posted:

http://demerarawaves.com/2016/...indian-support-base/

PPPC consolidating East Indian support base

 
Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo was Friday morning unequivocal that his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) is first appealing to its traditional East Indian support base before reaching across to other segments of the society for political support-base.

“There is no hidden agenda here. Everyone knows where the bulk of the support of the two parties come from – APNU and PPP. A significant amount of our support comes from rural folks and Indo-Guyanese,” he said when asked whether the PPP has become an ethnic party.

Speaking with reporters outside St. John’s College, Waterloo Street, Georgetown where he cast his ballot in Local Government Elections, the former Guyanese leader said while non-traditional support has grown in areas such as Linden, Georgetown and New Amsterdam where infrastructural work was done, his party had failed in its political work while in office from 1992 to 2015. “Sometimes you do a lot of civil works but if you don’t follow up with the political work you don’t get the sort of benefit,” he said, adding that opponents portray a  skewed view of development.

He noted that the PPPC’s votes have grown in Linden, Region 10 from two percent in 1992 to 24 percent in 2006 but declined to about 17 percent in the 2011 and 2016 general and regional elections because his party had neglected the momentum there. “We intend to resume work once we first of all consolidate the base to work in areas that traditionally vote for us because we have significant successes in those votes,” he added.

Jagdeo reiterated that the PPPC’s priority immediately after the Local Government Elections is to intensify its campaign in both PPPC and APNU areas to regain the seat of central government. “We need to consolidate our base but we need to work hard in APNU-controlled areas to explain to people that our policies are good for everyone-all of the people of the country and that they have nothing and that they had nothing to fear in the past with us being in power, they have nothing to fear with us resuming power and that we value their support too,” he said. The PPP intends to attract more women, youth and older folks to join and support the PPPC.

Meanwhile, the former Guyanese leader hoped that the state-owned Guyana Sugar Corporation would give workers time-off to vote in Friday’s (March 18, 2016) Local Government Elections being held for the first time in 23 years.  “We know that is not an institutional instruction but that will be huge for us if it turns out to be true because the sugar-belt traditionally supported the PPP,” he said.

Jagdeo acknowledged that the turnout at local government elections up to 10 AM was poor, partly because of the fact that government has not declared polling day a National Holiday. Some observers forecast that more persons would cast their ballots late Friday afternoon after they would have returned home from work.

You finally return to Planet Earth and discover this.  

Same article was posted last week on this forum...

Post the link to the thread where it was posted.

Mars
Mars posted:
ian posted:
Mars posted:

http://demerarawaves.com/2016/...indian-support-base/

PPPC consolidating East Indian support base

 
Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo was Friday morning unequivocal that his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) is first appealing to its traditional East Indian support base before reaching across to other segments of the society for political support-base.

“There is no hidden agenda here. Everyone knows where the bulk of the support of the two parties come from – APNU and PPP. A significant amount of our support comes from rural folks and Indo-Guyanese,” he said when asked whether the PPP has become an ethnic party.

Speaking with reporters outside St. John’s College, Waterloo Street, Georgetown where he cast his ballot in Local Government Elections, the former Guyanese leader said while non-traditional support has grown in areas such as Linden, Georgetown and New Amsterdam where infrastructural work was done, his party had failed in its political work while in office from 1992 to 2015. “Sometimes you do a lot of civil works but if you don’t follow up with the political work you don’t get the sort of benefit,” he said, adding that opponents portray a  skewed view of development.

He noted that the PPPC’s votes have grown in Linden, Region 10 from two percent in 1992 to 24 percent in 2006 but declined to about 17 percent in the 2011 and 2016 general and regional elections because his party had neglected the momentum there. “We intend to resume work once we first of all consolidate the base to work in areas that traditionally vote for us because we have significant successes in those votes,” he added.

Jagdeo reiterated that the PPPC’s priority immediately after the Local Government Elections is to intensify its campaign in both PPPC and APNU areas to regain the seat of central government. “We need to consolidate our base but we need to work hard in APNU-controlled areas to explain to people that our policies are good for everyone-all of the people of the country and that they have nothing and that they had nothing to fear in the past with us being in power, they have nothing to fear with us resuming power and that we value their support too,” he said. The PPP intends to attract more women, youth and older folks to join and support the PPPC.

Meanwhile, the former Guyanese leader hoped that the state-owned Guyana Sugar Corporation would give workers time-off to vote in Friday’s (March 18, 2016) Local Government Elections being held for the first time in 23 years.  “We know that is not an institutional instruction but that will be huge for us if it turns out to be true because the sugar-belt traditionally supported the PPP,” he said.

Jagdeo acknowledged that the turnout at local government elections up to 10 AM was poor, partly because of the fact that government has not declared polling day a National Holiday. Some observers forecast that more persons would cast their ballots late Friday afternoon after they would have returned home from work.

You finally return to Planet Earth and discover this.  

Same article was posted last week on this forum...

Post the link to the thread where it was posted.

He cannot. He is embarrassed that Jagdeo's "coolie people" party orientation was exposed.

I mean which leader boasts about consolidating a race vote, if they seek support from the broad swath of the population? Even Corbin wasn't so stupid!

That is some thing for analysts to pontificate on.  Not some one who will claim that he leads a party with multi ethnic support!

FM

Ok. I was one of those who believed when he said, post May 11, 2015, that he understands that the PPP lost the elections because they made too many mistakes due to becoming disconnected from, and insesitive to the needs of, the people.  And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP. But evidently they have not changed. They are like the leopard that cannot change its spots. They are entrenched in partisan race based politics.   

They are disappointing!  

FM

If ever proof was needed to show that Bharrat Jagdeo's PPP is markedly different from Cheddi Jagan's PPP, look no further than the news report Mars has posted.

For decades, Cheddi Jagan labored tirelessly to consolidate the PPP's working-class base that cut across ethnic boundaries. Not so now.

FM

Is this another propaganda piece?  I am struggling to believe that Jagdeo said those divisive words.  This is the same nonsense the coalition was spilling all over the media earlier this year before the May elections.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Is this another propaganda piece?  I am struggling to believe that Jagdeo said those divisive words.  This is the same nonsense the coalition was spilling all over the media earlier this year before the May elections.

You do not seem to break a step in light of the ugliness and nasty racism from Ugli et al. That these people actually believe what they say does not cause you to pause and comment that it is your countrymen the target for such nastiness. These are the raw naked face of the PPP. Jagdeo simply has to whistle.

FM
susan posted:

Ok. I was one of those who believed when he said, post May 11, 2015, that he understands that the PPP lost the elections because they made too many mistakes due to becoming disconnected from, and insesitive to the needs of, the people.  And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP. But evidently they have not changed. They are like the leopard that cannot change its spots. They are entrenched in partisan race based politics.   

They are disappointing!  

If they continue along this line, they are out of power for the next 2 decades or so.  And they, themselves,  would be the primary cause of that!

FM
susan posted:
susan posted:

Ok. I was one of those who believed when he said, post May 11, 2015, that he understands that the PPP lost the elections because they made too many mistakes due to becoming disconnected from, and insesitive to the needs of, the people.  And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP. But evidently they have not changed. They are like the leopard that cannot change its spots. They are entrenched in partisan race based politics.   

They are disappointing!  

If they continue along this line, they are out of power for the next 2 decades or so.  And they, themselves,  would be the primary cause of that!

"And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP."

What more inclusive approach you want. Black people get more than the  Indian under the PPP government. They burn down their schools and have it rebuild. $ 10,000 for ever school kids was taken away by this regime and Black People didn't complain.

VAT will be added on to water and electricity... just to let you know, north and south rumvielt, festival city, Sophia, Buxton, Alboystown, Linden etc don't pay for these services, so the VAT will only be paid by Indians. I can go on with more.  

FM
ian posted:
susan posted:
susan posted:

Ok. I was one of those who believed when he said, post May 11, 2015, that he understands that the PPP lost the elections because they made too many mistakes due to becoming disconnected from, and insesitive to the needs of, the people.  And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP. But evidently they have not changed. They are like the leopard that cannot change its spots. They are entrenched in partisan race based politics.   

They are disappointing!  

If they continue along this line, they are out of power for the next 2 decades or so.  And they, themselves,  would be the primary cause of that!

"And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP."

What more inclusive approach you want. Black people get more than the  Indian under the PPP government. They burn down their schools and have it rebuild. $ 10,000 for ever school kids was taken away by this regime and Black People didn't complain.

VAT will be added on towater and electricity... just to let you know, north and south rumvielt, festival city, Sophia, Buxton, Alboystown, Linden etc don't pay for these services, so the VAT will only be paid by Indians. I can go on with more.  

Ian you have some proof,i am aware Linden get subsidize electricity.

Django
Django posted:
ian posted:
susan posted:
susan posted:

Ok. I was one of those who believed when he said, post May 11, 2015, that he understands that the PPP lost the elections because they made too many mistakes due to becoming disconnected from, and insesitive to the needs of, the people.  And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP. But evidently they have not changed. They are like the leopard that cannot change its spots. They are entrenched in partisan race based politics.   

They are disappointing!  

If they continue along this line, they are out of power for the next 2 decades or so.  And they, themselves,  would be the primary cause of that!

"And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP."

What more inclusive approach you want. Black people get more than the  Indian under the PPP government. They burn down their schools and have it rebuild. $ 10,000 for ever school kids was taken away by this regime and Black People didn't complain.

VAT will be added on towater and electricity... just to let you know, north and south rumvielt, festival city, Sophia, Buxton, Alboystown, Linden etc don't pay for these services, so the VAT will only be paid by Indians. I can go on with more.  

Ian you have some proof,i am aware Linden get subsidize electricity.

Django, I don't know where you are living , I am between Guyana and Canada ... NO GPL worker can cut the power of someone home who don't pay their bills, and all the above villages don't pay. The lines man will be left on the lamp post and ladder get taken away. Water meter gets by pass and no Guywa workers can risk entering any of these village

FM

There is a black family on Toucan  Drive in South Ruimveldt who had their power disconnected a few months ago, for not paying their bill. It took them more then a week to have it restored.

There are also some families in Berbice who used cables to bypass their hydro meter and remove the water meter when they fill their overhead tanks.    

Tola
ian posted:
Django posted:
ian posted:

"And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP."

What more inclusive approach you want. Black people get more than the  Indian under the PPP government. They burn down their schools and have it rebuild. $ 10,000 for ever school kids was taken away by this regime and Black People didn't complain.

VAT will be added on towater and electricity... just to let you know, north and south rumvielt, festival city, Sophia, Buxton, Alboystown, Linden etc don't pay for these services, so the VAT will only be paid by Indians. I can go on with more.  

Ian you have some proof,i am aware Linden get subsidize electricity.

Django, I don't know where you are living , I am between Guyana and Canada ... NO GPL worker can cut the power of someone home who don't pay their bills, and all the above villages don't pay. The lines man will be left on the lamp post and ladder get taken away. Water meter gets by pass and no Guywa workers can risk entering any of these village

I live in Connecticut bhai,wha you sayin when representatives of GPL and Guywa show up to disconnect non paying service the does get chase out.

Django
Gilbakka posted:

If ever proof was needed to show that Bharrat Jagdeo's PPP is markedly different from Cheddi Jagan's PPP, look no further than the news report Mars has posted.

For decades, Cheddi Jagan labored tirelessly to consolidate the PPP's working-class base that cut across ethnic boundaries. Not so now.

100 Percent Black man vote for PNC, their base is already consolidated.

FM
susan posted:
cain posted:

If Ian is correct, something has to be done to correct that behaviour but there has to be proof no, me hear seh

Agree

We believe that GPL should step up its campaign to prevent electricity theft across the country. These efforts must also be supported by the judicial system and the communities where these practices are prevalent. For example, there have been numerous reports that GPL officials and even the police are chased out of areas whenever they go to investigate reports of electricity theft. Citizens must assist the authorities in bringing a halt to this practice by making the necessary reports to the police whenever they see it happening.

 

Guyanatimes - October 3 2015.  

Banna, I travel to all these villages and I have workers from most of these villages working for me, I does get the inside info. 

When PPP was in government and Buxton was getting raid by the police / army... I knew hours before. 

My cousin was a reporter with CN Sharma,... Benscope arrange for a interview in Buxton a Saturday night with the famous Jail Break prisoners and I was with them. I knew Buxton well.

On a lighter side :

The best souce and blackpuddin is from Buxton. The best woman to bingee with is a black woman... time of your life 

FM
susan posted:

Ok. I was one of those who believed when he said, post May 11, 2015, that he understands that the PPP lost the elections because they made too many mistakes due to becoming disconnected from, and insesitive to the needs of, the people.  And I was hoping for a more broad minded and inclusive approach from the PPP. But evidently they have not changed. They are like the leopard that cannot change its spots. They are entrenched in partisan race based politics.   

They are disappointing!  

You are a foolish lady, buying the nonsense Carib and others are spewing here.

I am not a fan of Jagdeo, but I dont see where he is saying that the "PPP is a coolie party": He cant be that stupid. From my reading of that article, he is simply saying that he has to take care of the  base, which is predominantly Indians. What is wrong with a leader saying this?

If, as some people are saying here that the election reflected the racial division, how come its the PPP that is being racial and Indians being racists when they vote for the PPP.? If we accept this logic, why are Africans not voting for the PPP, and since they have not done so in large numbers since Jagan and Burnham split, why arent Africans seen as racists for clinging to their party?

Carib wants to peddle the myth that all Indians are racists. From what I am reading on this thread, Gilly and others are drinking the cool aid too.     

V

Vish, you missed the boat on this one. Not only Jagdeo, but Rohee acknowledged that the PPP is a coolie party.  Google Guyana hoopla on this topic.

 

Rohee endorses Jagdeo statement that PPP is a ‘coolie people’ party

March 10, 2015 | By | Filed Under News 

–    Says Afro Guyanese should welcome statement
General Secretary of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP), Clement Rohee, yesterday supported the statements made by his comrade, Bharrat Jagdeo, to the effect that the incumbent party is a “coolie people” party.

PPP General Secretary, Clement Rohee

As he hosted the PPP’s weekly press conference at Freedom House Robb Street, Georgetown, Rohee said that he saw nothing wrong with former President Jagdeo’s allusion to the PPP as a coolie people party.
Jagdeo made this statement on Sunday when he spoke at the memorial service held in honour of former President and founder member of the PPP, the late Dr. Cheddi Jagan at Babu Jaan, Corentyne, Berbice.
Jagdeo, who is known to speak rashly at this yearly forum, told thousands who gathered at the event that the “opposition” whispers to its supporters, “Let us throw out the coolie people.”
Jagdeo added that the opposition “consistently shouts about the racism of the PPP but they practice racism. They whisper campaigns. In the last elections they went to some of the Afro villages and beat some drums at six in the morning and say let us throw out these coolie people. Get up and go out and vote.”
Yesterday Rohee was questioned as to whether he supported the statements made by his comrade and he responded in the affirmative.
Rohee said that PPP is indeed a “coolie people” party as it is “overwhelmingly supported by Indians.”
Asked if he considered the impact such a statement can have on PPP supporters who are of another race, Rohee said that he doesn’t see that any harm can be caused.
He even told media operatives that PPP supporters who are Afro-Guyanese should welcome the statement as it is forthright.

Mitwah
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ian posted:
susan posted:
cain posted:

If Ian is correct, something has to be done to correct that behaviour but there has to be proof no, me hear seh

Agree

We believe that GPL should step up its campaign to prevent electricity theft across the country. These efforts must also be supported by the judicial system and the communities where these practices are prevalent. For example, there have been numerous reports that GPL officials and even the police are chased out of areas whenever they go to investigate reports of electricity theft. Citizens must assist the authorities in bringing a halt to this practice by making the necessary reports to the police whenever they see it happening.

 

Guyanatimes - October 3 2015.  

Banna, I travel to all these villages and I have workers from most of these villages working for me, I does get the inside info. 

When PPP was in government and Buxton was getting raid by the police / army... I knew hours before. 

My cousin was a reporter with CN Sharma,... Benscope arrange for a interview in Buxton a Saturday night with the famous Jail Break prisoners and I was with them. I knew Buxton well.

On a lighter side :

The best souce and blackpuddin is from Buxton. The best woman to bingee with is a black woman... time of your life 

1.Guyana Times not good source

2. RE:When PPP was in government and Buxton was getting raid by the police / army... I knew hours before. 

Shows under the PPP slackness was allowed.

 

Iman long time ago family had lil casava bread business in Buxton.

cain
VishMahabir posted:
Carib wants to peddle the myth that all Indians are racists. From what I am reading on this thread, Gilly and others are drinking the cool aid too.     

Carib has never said that all Indians are racists, as far as I recall. Gilly drinks no one's Cool Aid; he is capable of thinking for himself. You presume too much about Gilly.

FM
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cain posted:
ian posted:
susan posted:
cain posted:

If Ian is correct, something has to be done to correct that behaviour but there has to be proof no, me hear seh

Agree

We believe that GPL should step up its campaign to prevent electricity theft across the country. These efforts must also be supported by the judicial system and the communities where these practices are prevalent. For example, there have been numerous reports that GPL officials and even the police are chased out of areas whenever they go to investigate reports of electricity theft. Citizens must assist the authorities in bringing a halt to this practice by making the necessary reports to the police whenever they see it happening.

 

Guyanatimes - October 3 2015.  

Banna, I travel to all these villages and I have workers from most of these villages working for me, I does get the inside info. 

When PPP was in government and Buxton was getting raid by the police / army... I knew hours before. 

My cousin was a reporter with CN Sharma,... Benscope arrange for a interview in Buxton a Saturday night with the famous Jail Break prisoners and I was with them. I knew Buxton well.

On a lighter side :

The best souce and blackpuddin is from Buxton. The best woman to bingee with is a black woman... time of your life 

1.Guyana Times not good source

2. RE:When PPP was in government and Buxton was getting raid by the police / army... I knew hours before. 

Shows under the PPP slackness was allowed.

 

Iman long time ago family had lil casava bread business in Buxton.

Cain, the PPP had no control over the Army and Police. The Army use to pass the info to congress place, hence Benchscope and Nigel knows and.... when we went for the interview in Buxton is like visiting a army base.  

In business, I use to deal with the Vasconcellos and the Pierras. 

Was your family on church of god Rd 

FM
redux posted:

GNI member 'ian' has presented  us with a CRUDE racial provocation that would make even the present occupants of Freedom House blush

and everybody being polite to this shitabatty ethnic cutlass man . . . one of the UNCLEVER barefoot tribals who vomit here on the regular using multiple handles

smfh

I vomit when I see your name on this forum.  

You keep speaking of anus and bt, I am convinced your are a BT boy or guyanese term Antiman. Go plug yo stink ASS or you would continue to eat your own shit.  

FM

GNI member 'ian' has presented  us with a CRUDE racial provocation that would make even the present occupants of Freedom House blush

how is such a lunatic LIE not hate speech?

and most everybody being polite to this shitabatty ethnic cutlass man . . . one of the loathsome, UNCLEVER barefoot tribals who vomit here on the regular using multiple handles

smfh

FM
ian posted:

Cain, the PPP had no control over the Army and Police. The Army use to pass the info to congress place, hence Benchscope and Nigel knows and.... when we went for the interview in Buxton is like visiting a army base.  

In business, I use to deal with the Vasconcellos and the Pierras. 

Was your family on church of god Rd 

I really don't remember the name of the street. They were a mixed couple.

cain
redux posted:

GNI member 'ian' has presented  us with a CRUDE racial provocation that would make even the present occupants of Freedom House blush

how is such a lunatic LIE not hate speech?

and most everybody being polite to this shitabatty ethnic cutlass man . . . one of the loathsome, UNCLEVER barefoot tribals who vomit here on the regular using multiple handles

smfh

What's up PIT LATRINE MOUTH. 

FM
ian posted:
redux posted:

GNI member 'ian' has presented  us with a CRUDE racial provocation that would make even the present occupants of Freedom House blush

how is such a lunatic LIE not hate speech?

and most everybody being polite to this shitabatty ethnic cutlass man . . . one of the loathsome, UNCLEVER barefoot tribals who vomit here on the regular using multiple handles

smfh

What's up PIT LATRINE MOUTH. 

do i know you?

as a matter of high principle, i don't count mouth breathers and the stunted ignorant among my friends

FM
redux posted:
ian posted:
redux posted:

GNI member 'ian' has presented  us with a CRUDE racial provocation that would make even the present occupants of Freedom House blush

how is such a lunatic LIE not hate speech?

and most everybody being polite to this shitabatty ethnic cutlass man . . . one of the loathsome, UNCLEVER barefoot tribals who vomit here on the regular using multiple handles

smfh

What's up PIT LATRINE MOUTH. 

do i know you?

as a matter of high principle, i don't count mouth breathers and the stunted ignorant among my friends

What's up PIT LATRINE MOUTH. 

FM

GNI member 'ian' has presented  us with a CRUDE racial provocation that would make even the present occupants of Freedom House blush

how is such a lunatic LIE not hate speech?

and most everybody being polite to this shitabatty ethnic cutlass man . . . one of the loathsome, UNCLEVER barefoot tribals who vomit here on the regular using multiple handles

smfh

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Is this another propaganda piece?  I am struggling to believe that Jagdeo said those divisive words.  This is the same nonsense the coalition was spilling all over the media earlier this year before the May elections.

This wasn't a sentence, that might have been taken out of context, or misinterpreted.

This was an entire speech which said that the goal was to consolidate the PPP's East Indian support base. Basically having said that he communicates that he thinks that the non Indian vote is secondary.

You would NEVER hear such ethnocentric nonsense pouring out of Granger's mouth.

If Jagdeo wished to prove a point, he should have gone into G/town, the belly of the beast, and contested to get that vote. If the PPP had 13 seats, and the independence got their 3, the coalition would look quite weak with only 14 seats in their main base of support. 

In fact many APNU supporters are quite angry after that 50% pay increase, and other levels of arrogance. They say they voted for "change and not exchange."

But no, Jagdeo the leader of the brown bai KKK, cannot see himself as anything beyond being the leader of the "coolie people party", even as the Indo voting base diminishes.  So he blew that opportunity.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Carib wants to peddle the myth that all Indians are racists. From what I am reading on this thread, Gilly and others are drinking the cool aid too.     

Carib has never said that all Indians are racists, as far as I recall. Gilly drinks no one's Cool Aid; he is capable of thinking for himself. You presume too much about Gilly.

Carib talks about the "brown bai KKK".  Its quite obvious who is in this group.  It is only those who may be covert in their racism who aren't sure how I consider them.

VishMahabir?

FM
VishMahabir posted:
susan posted:

but I dont see where he is saying that the "PPP is a coolie party": He cant be that stupid. From my reading of that article, he is simply saying that he has to take care of the  base, which is predominantly Indians. What is wrong with a leader saying this?

  

Well sorry but Jagdeo is the leader of the "coolie people party".  He considers non Indian voters to be secondary.

Now it will appear to me that Jagdeo ought to know that he has the Indian vote. That based on his behavior last year he is seen by the 50% Afro/mixed population as being a racist. And that his tenuous support among Amerindians will diminish as he can no longer offer them favors.

So one would think that Jagdeo's main goal would be to communicate that the PPP is NOT a "coolie people party", even though that is its base of support. 

And that the best way to disprove this is to seek support from the group which is most hostile to the PPP, because it is most convinced that the PPP represents a real threat.  And that is the African populations, especially the urban poor blacks, who felt that they were especially targeted during the Jagdeo/Roger Khan era.

But Jagdeo had to "consolidate his East Indian" base, even as it probably isn't more than 45% of the voting age population, and likely to be much less by 2020!

FM
VishMahabir posted:
, why are Africans not voting for the PPP,  

the PPP has been consistent in demonizing blacks since 1957. Even Eusi, who had intense hatred of Burnham, felt compelled to leave. 

Apan jhat was screamed. Eusi heard, and just knew that the PPP was now a "coolie people party" and so had to go!

FM
cain posted:

If Ian is correct, something has to be done to correct that behaviour but there has to be proof no, me hear seh

Granger will not fix this.  This is how you tax the Indian and subsidize the Blacks!  Don't think this is not coordinated.  The PNC controls the GPF/GDF, they can enforce, but they will chose not to!  They will criticize, but let their people know, as long as PNC in power, they will not act, a tacit approval!

This is old Guyana back again full glory!  Bullyism and wrong and strong is the operating norm!

FM
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caribny posted:
VishMahabir posted:
, why are Africans not voting for the PPP,  

the PPP has been consistent in demonizing blacks since 1957. Even Eusi, who had intense hatred of Burnham, felt compelled to leave. 

Apan jhat was screamed. Eusi heard, and just knew that the PPP was now a "coolie people party" and so had to go!

And you forgot, "Blackman ah goa kill abie"!!

You slipping up deh bai!!

FM
baseman posted:

Carib tell lots of lies over and over and the feeble minded "coolies" actually start believing it as fact!  But they are feeble-minded!

What bull! Your fear of who you cannot control and cannot comprehend shows! Caribny consistently and patiently counters each ridiculous mortified racist based tale you conjour up. You and your partner who thinks all who do not think like her are "coolie haters" apply labels liberally only to conceal your inability to comprehend open minded and fair Indo Guyanese. 

The contempt you show for such Indo Guyanese and for Afro Guyanese and blacks in general is mind boggling. For instance have you any idea how many hands of different ethnicities and different dispositions from yours, your coffee and breakfast that you happily consume this morning passed through? 

You sorry souls should open your minds  a bit, you have no idea what you are missing out on in life! 

What to do, hope you live and ultimately  learn. 

FM
caribny posted:
VishMahabir posted:
susan posted:

but I dont see where he is saying that the "PPP is a coolie party": He cant be that stupid. From my reading of that article, he is simply saying that he has to take care of the  base, which is predominantly Indians. What is wrong with a leader saying this?

  

Well sorry but Jagdeo is the leader of the "coolie people party".  He considers non Indian voters to be secondary.

Now it will appear to me that Jagdeo ought to know that he has the Indian vote. That based on his behavior last year he is seen by the 50% Afro/mixed population as being a racist. And that his tenuous support among Amerindians will diminish as he can no longer offer them favors.

So one would think that Jagdeo's main goal would be to communicate that the PPP is NOT a "coolie people party", even though that is its base of support. 

And that the best way to disprove this is to seek support from the group which is most hostile to the PPP, because it is most convinced that the PPP represents a real threat.  And that is the African populations, especially the urban poor blacks, who felt that they were especially targeted during the Jagdeo/Roger Khan era.

But Jagdeo had to "consolidate his East Indian" base, even as it probably isn't more than 45% of the voting age population, and likely to be much less by 2020!

You got it wrong when you quoted there Caribny. That snippet you "quoted" above is actually from Vishmahabir in response to my post which is an entirely different nature! 

FM
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baseman posted:

Carib tell lots of lies over and over and the feeble minded "coolies" actually start believing it as fact!  But they are feeble-minded!

There are quite a few Inods on GNI who bought into the PNC cool aid being sold by the likes of Carib yet 99 Percent of Afros vote PNC even though they will end up eating grass.

Tehy had no food or clothes yet they lined up to faithfully to vote for dictators Burnham and Hoyte.

FM
caribny posted:
Mars posted:
ian posted:
Mars posted:

http://demerarawaves.com/2016/...indian-support-base/

PPPC consolidating East Indian support base

 
Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo was Friday morning unequivocal that his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) is first appealing to its traditional East Indian support base before reaching across to other segments of the society for political support-base.

“There is no hidden agenda here. Everyone knows where the bulk of the support of the two parties come from – APNU and PPP. A significant amount of our support comes from rural folks and Indo-Guyanese,” he said when asked whether the PPP has become an ethnic party.

Speaking with reporters outside St. John’s College, Waterloo Street, Georgetown where he cast his ballot in Local Government Elections, the former Guyanese leader said while non-traditional support has grown in areas such as Linden, Georgetown and New Amsterdam where infrastructural work was done, his party had failed in its political work while in office from 1992 to 2015. “Sometimes you do a lot of civil works but if you don’t follow up with the political work you don’t get the sort of benefit,” he said, adding that opponents portray a  skewed view of development.

He noted that the PPPC’s votes have grown in Linden, Region 10 from two percent in 1992 to 24 percent in 2006 but declined to about 17 percent in the 2011 and 2016 general and regional elections because his party had neglected the momentum there. “We intend to resume work once we first of all consolidate the base to work in areas that traditionally vote for us because we have significant successes in those votes,” he added.

Jagdeo reiterated that the PPPC’s priority immediately after the Local Government Elections is to intensify its campaign in both PPPC and APNU areas to regain the seat of central government. “We need to consolidate our base but we need to work hard in APNU-controlled areas to explain to people that our policies are good for everyone-all of the people of the country and that they have nothing and that they had nothing to fear in the past with us being in power, they have nothing to fear with us resuming power and that we value their support too,” he said. The PPP intends to attract more women, youth and older folks to join and support the PPPC.

Meanwhile, the former Guyanese leader hoped that the state-owned Guyana Sugar Corporation would give workers time-off to vote in Friday’s (March 18, 2016) Local Government Elections being held for the first time in 23 years.  “We know that is not an institutional instruction but that will be huge for us if it turns out to be true because the sugar-belt traditionally supported the PPP,” he said.

Jagdeo acknowledged that the turnout at local government elections up to 10 AM was poor, partly because of the fact that government has not declared polling day a National Holiday. Some observers forecast that more persons would cast their ballots late Friday afternoon after they would have returned home from work.

You finally return to Planet Earth and discover this.  

Same article was posted last week on this forum...

Post the link to the thread where it was posted.

He cannot. He is embarrassed that Jagdeo's "coolie people" party orientation was exposed.

I mean which leader boasts about consolidating a race vote, if they seek support from the broad swath of the population? Even Corbin wasn't so stupid!

That is some thing for analysts to pontificate on.  Not some one who will claim that he leads a party with multi ethnic support!

Doan forget Black ppl vote PNC. For 66 years, they established themselves as a Black ppl party. Please doan forget also the League of Colored People and the Marcus Garvey Organization for only Black Guyanese.

Suh all of a sudden you all want to be patriotic. Ayuh razz cuzz coolie ppl for too long. Jagdeo gat big big baltz-he ain friken to call racists. 

S
baseman posted:
cain posted:

If Ian is correct, something has to be done to correct that behaviour but there has to be proof no, me hear seh

Granger will not fix this.  This is how you tax the Indian and subsidize the Blacks!  Don't think this is not coordinated.  The PNC controls the GPF/GDF, they can enforce, but they will chose not to!  They will criticize, but let their people know, as long as PNC in power, they will not act, a tacit approval!

This is old Guyana back again full glory!  Bullyism and wrong and strong is the operating norm!

Brown bai KKK screams in full effect.

Base you better beg them Indians to move you from being a POI to becoming an NRI, so you can flee to that country, because that "coolie people party" which thinks that it can win by ignoring non Indos, isn't going to win another election.  Not unless they dump Jagdeo, and select some one with broad based appeal.

Jagdeo is the new Ravi Dev.  Hated and reviled by non Indians!

FM
baseman posted:

Carib tell lots of lies over and over and the feeble minded "coolies" actually start believing it as fact!  But they are feeble-minded!

And yet you cannot discuss any lies, or why you think I am a racist.

Listen quite a few Indians here do NOT consider me racist.  ALL the non Indians and several Indians consider YOU to be racist.

Put that in your pipe and smoke this.

FM
susan posted:
caribny posted:
VishMahabir posted:
susan posted:

but I dont see where he is saying that the "PPP is a coolie party": He cant be that stupid. From my reading of that article, he is simply saying that he has to take care of the  base, which is predominantly Indians. What is wrong with a leader saying this?

  

Well sorry but Jagdeo is the leader of the "coolie people party".  He considers non Indian voters to be secondary.

Now it will appear to me that Jagdeo ought to know that he has the Indian vote. That based on his behavior last year he is seen by the 50% Afro/mixed population as being a racist. And that his tenuous support among Amerindians will diminish as he can no longer offer them favors.

So one would think that Jagdeo's main goal would be to communicate that the PPP is NOT a "coolie people party", even though that is its base of support. 

And that the best way to disprove this is to seek support from the group which is most hostile to the PPP, because it is most convinced that the PPP represents a real threat.  And that is the African populations, especially the urban poor blacks, who felt that they were especially targeted during the Jagdeo/Roger Khan era.

But Jagdeo had to "consolidate his East Indian" base, even as it probably isn't more than 45% of the voting age population, and likely to be much less by 2020!

You got it wrong when you quoted there Caribny. That snippet you "quoted" above is actually from Vishmahabir in response to my post which is an entirely different nature! 

Sorry, but you know this 15 minute time limit on editing!

FM
yuji22 posted:
baseman posted:

Carib tell lots of lies over and over and the feeble minded "coolies" actually start believing it as fact!  But they are feeble-minded!

There are quite a few Inods on GNI who bought into the PNC cool aid being sold by the likes of Carib yet 99 Percent of Afros vote PNC even though they will end up eating grass.

Tehy had no food or clothes yet they lined up to faithfully to vote for dictators Burnham and Hoyte.

yuji22 posted:

Kudos to Jagdeo for calling a spade a spade.

99 Percent Afros vote PNC, their base is consolidated. 

Nothing wrong with what Jagdeo is doing. Jagdeo has baltz.

seignet posted:
 

Doan forget Black ppl vote PNC. For 66 years, they established themselves as a Black ppl party. Please doan forget also the League of Colored People and the Marcus Garvey Organization for only Black Guyanese.

Suh all of a sudden you all want to be patriotic. Ayuh razz cuzz coolie ppl for too long. Jagdeo gat big big baltz-he ain friken to call racists. 

Scream as you will but here are the facts.

APNU AFC get over 80% of the mixed vote. They are beginning to capture a good chunk of the Amerindian vote.

You know why?  Because they don't run around damning non blacks as savages, and boasting that they "consolidate the black vote".

The PPP is the new ROAR.  Problem for you is many Indians don't like this behavior, and you bet that non Indians don't.

So scream and cry brown bai KKK.  To be frank making you all look foolish is so easy!   You see if the PPP is fighting only for the Indian vote, and they will not get all of it (looks like G/town Indos helped to kick them out of G/town too).  LOSSES.

But the PPP is now the brown bai KKK and Jagdeo is the Grand Wizard, so why the shock.

You all scream "black man gun kill ahbe", "black man gun rape ahbe", "black man lazy", and then you call us racial when we don't vote PPP.

FM
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

This madman, Carib, is like a Nazis preacher who indicts everyone from a group as racist except those who collaborated to fight for their cause.

Hey if you wish me to stop calling you a brown bai KKK then all you need to do is to stop behaving like one.

Can you do that, because if you don't I will continue.

FM

The three Ps in the PPP do not stand for Ku Klux Klan.

Balram Singh Rai did not oppose the PPP because they were too Indian. He opposed the party because they conceded to the demands of Africans at the expense of the Indians. The  AFC played a double role in the last election campaign by telling the Indians in Berbice that the PPP neglected them (traditional Indians supporters). They exhorted blacks by charging that the gov't. show favoritism towards Indians.

It's all baloney.

Billy Ram Balgobin
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

The three Ps in the PPP do not stand for Ku Klux Klan.

Balram Singh Rai did not oppose the PPP because they were too Indian. He opposed the party because they conceded to the demands of Africans at the expense of the Indians. The  AFC played a double role in the last election campaign by telling the Indians in Berbice that the PPP neglected them (traditional Indians supporters). They exhorted blacks by charging that the gov't. show favoritism towards Indians.

It's all baloney.

PPP stands for the KKK (brown bai branch).

Jagan accepted "apan jaht" and the rest is history.

 

Jagdeo just finished babbling about how he thinks that only Indian votes are worthy.  He doesn't want any black support.

After all the PPP is the brown bai KKK, so they don't want no blackman!

FM
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caribny posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

The three Ps in the PPP do not stand for Ku Klux Klan.

Balram Singh Rai did not oppose the PPP because they were too Indian. He opposed the party because they conceded to the demands of Africans at the expense of the Indians. The  AFC played a double role in the last election campaign by telling the Indians in Berbice that the PPP neglected them (traditional Indians supporters). They exhorted blacks by charging that the gov't. show favoritism towards Indians.

It's all baloney.

PPP stands for the KKK (brown bai branch).

Jagan accepted "apan jaht" and the rest is history.

 

Jagdeo just finished babbling about how he thinks that only Indian votes are worthy.  He doesn't want any black support.

After all the PPP is the brown bai KKK, so they don't want no blackman!

Any viewer of this forum with an iota of commonsense can see how radical you are based on the twist you put on stories and downright lies you concoct about the PPP being a party that hates blacks.  You are encouraging black hate of Indians by your lies and fabrications.

Billy Ram Balgobin

The PPP as a Guyanese party must always be multiracial and multi-religious. It was multiracial and multi-religious under Cheddi and Janet Jagan. It is an insult to non-Indian and non-Hindu PPP supporters to have a worldview that I heard coming from some of these PPP pandit supporters.

Wally
Wally posted:

The PPP as a Guyanese party must always be multiracial and multi-religious. It was multiracial and multi-religious under Cheddi and Janet Jagan. It is an insult to non-Indian and non-Hindu PPP supporters to have a worldview that I heard coming from some of these PPP pandit supporters.

What you heard?

Billy Ram Balgobin
Wally posted:

The PPP as a Guyanese party must always be multiracial and multi-religious. It was multiracial and multi-religious under Cheddi and Janet Jagan. It is an insult to non-Indian and non-Hindu PPP supporters to have a worldview that I heard coming from some of these PPP pandit supporters.

Wally you missed the point here.

Blacks have consolidated their PNC base. They are now harassing and firing Indos.

Indos have to demand equality and that can only be achieved through Indo unity.

Everyone wants ALL Guyanese to be treated equally and fairly, regardless of race.

Remember, it was the PNC which assassinated Walter Rodney who was capable of uniting Guyana. The racist PNC prevented this from happening by murdering Rodney.

FM
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
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Any viewer of this forum with an iota of commonsense can see how radical you are based on the twist you put on stories and downright lies you concoct about the PPP being a party that hates blacks.  You are encouraging black hate of Indians by your lies and fabrications.

Funny.  The only ones who disagree with me are the brown bai KKK, and a few other PPP sympathizers.

The PPP hates blacks, and we hate them in return.  This because of the endless demonization of blacks as being lazy, violent, criminal, and savage.

And now the PPP admits that it is a "coolie people party" which openly prioritizes Indians over non Indians.  No interesting in broadening their base, by attempting to convince Indians that they aren't totally Indo focused.

FM
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And you are stifling your conscience immensely by not admitting that even after 23 years of PPP ruling......APNU or AFC could not win the election independently. They had to collate....

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

And you are stifling your conscience immensely by not admitting that even after 23 years of PPP ruling......APNU or AFC could not win the election independently. They had to collate....

The Indo vote is still larger than the Afro, and as your hero Jagdeo screams, he "consolidated the Indian support base".

Mixed voters split between the PNC and the AFC.

FM
baseman posted:
caribny posted:

Of course Bibi is immensely proud that the PPP "consolidated the East Indian support base".

PPP lost because the let their base "drift" and fell for the AFC con-job!!

The PPP won the vast majority of the rural Indian vote.   In fact they INCREASED the Indian turn out in 2015, when compared to 2011, taking back those who had fled the PPP plantation to Nagamootoo.

After all screams of "black man gun rape yu daughter" carry powerful imagery among people who view black men as sexually virile and rapacious.

The PPP have been losing much of the urban Indo vote for a while. G/town Indians don't see themselves as PPP property! In fact in 1994 the PPP won 8 city council seats, now down to a mere 2 this year. 

FM

And if the PPP continues to be the "coolie people party," seeking to "consolidate the Indian support base," they will lose every national election going forward, as the Indian support base dwindles!

FM
baseman posted:
caribny posted:

And if the PPP continues to be the "coolie people party," seeking to "consolidate the Indian support base," they will lose every national election going forward, as the Indian support base dwindles!

Are you building the case for the 2020 rigging?  Indians are 45%, Blacks 30%, Duglas 15%!!  Relatively speaking the Indian base has not eroded that much!

The tie breaker is the Amerindians.

Django
caribny posted:

And if the PPP continues to be the "coolie people party," seeking to "consolidate the Indian support base," they will lose every national election going forward, as the Indian support base dwindles!

The current PPP will have to reinvent it self to rule again,Jaggy don't like people who are more educated than him,look at the klan around him.

Django
ian posted:

Cain, the PPP had no control over the Army and Police.

Utter nonsense. First Jagdeo, then Ramotar were commander in chiefs. They ordered the police and army NOT TO INTERVENE in the executions of innocent black people by the Phantoms. They ordered the return of drugs and money to many criminals. They bought and gave Khan spying equipment, which was then used to spy on potential victims of executions.

Mr.T
baseman posted:
caribny posted:

And if the PPP continues to be the "coolie people party," seeking to "consolidate the Indian support base," they will lose every national election going forward, as the Indian support base dwindles!

Are you building the case for the 2020 rigging?  Indians are 45%, Blacks 30%, Duglas 15%!!  Relatively speaking the Indian base has not eroded that much!

Africans are 30%.  Not all vote PNC, and yet the PNC used to get a consistent 41%, except in 2006. Given that the PNC won few Indian, or Amerindian votes, that means that the PNC won the bulk of the mixed vote.

The mixed vote is growing as many who were born after 1991 come of age.  The Indian population is shrinking.  The Amerindians are switching, as the PPP can no longer buy their vote.

So make up a scenario where the PPP can win an election, based only on the Indian vote. 

Note that many of the few black and mixed votes that they got they will probably lose, as a good chunk were also bought.

 

FM
Django posted:
baseman posted:
caribny posted:

And if the PPP continues to be the "coolie people party," seeking to "consolidate the Indian support base," they will lose every national election going forward, as the Indian support base dwindles!

Are you building the case for the 2020 rigging?  Indians are 45%, Blacks 30%, Duglas 15%!!  Relatively speaking the Indian base has not eroded that much!

The tie breaker is the Amerindians.

And based on Mabaruma and Lethem many are leaving the PPP.  It was their heavy support for the PPP (maybe as much as 70%)  which carried the PPP over 50%.

The PPP needs to understand that they cannot talk about "consolidating their Indian support base" and expect to be taken seriously.

Either Jagdeo wants to be president of ALL Guyanese, or be the president of East Indians.  He cannot be both!

FM
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baseman posted:
Django posted:
caribny posted:

And if the PPP continues to be the "coolie people party," seeking to "consolidate the Indian support base," they will lose every national election going forward, as the Indian support base dwindles!

The current PPP will have to reinvent it self to rule again,Jaggy don't like people who are more educated than him,look at the klan around him.

Is that why all the "geniuses" left and went AFC and then some even hob-nob the PNC??

You figure it out,all the bright bhais left or i should say pushed out.

Django
baseman posted:
baseman posted:
Django posted:
caribny posted:

And if the PPP continues to be the "coolie people party," seeking to "consolidate the Indian support base," they will lose every national election going forward, as the Indian support base dwindles!

The current PPP will have to reinvent it self to rule again,Jaggy don't like people who are more educated than him,look at the klan around him.

Is that why all the "geniuses" left and went AFC and then some even hob-nob the PNC??

But looks like Harmon not that impressed!!

Many Indos have been hired into top slots. Unlike the "coolie people party" which claimed that blacks were too dunce to hold those positions.

FM
Mars posted:

http://demerarawaves.com/2016/...indian-support-base/

PPPC consolidating East Indian support base

 
Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo speaking with the media shortly before voting in the 2015 Local Government Elections.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo was Friday morning unequivocal that his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) is first appealing to its traditional East Indian support base before reaching across to other segments of the society for political support-base.

 

Jagdeo reveals who he means when he uses the term "we" and "our".

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Is this another propaganda piece?  I am struggling to believe that Jagdeo said those divisive words. .

Well he did say those words.  He screamed that if Indians and Amerindians don't vote PPP and the PNC win that blacks will kick down the doors and rape and kill them.

Now he screams "WE will take back Guyana for OUR people".  This after he defined "our people" to mean rural East Indians.

FM

Indians face an existential threat in Guyana and must unite to survive!!  Take a leaf out of the Black people's book, United we stand, divided we fall!!  It's up to Indians to determine if survive or disappear into the sunset!!

FM
ba$eman posted:

Indians face an existential threat in Guyana and must unite to survive!! 

The best way to ensure that you don't survive is failing to develop cross ethnic alliances.

In another 15-20 years Indians will be LESS than 30% of the population.

You think that Jagdeo will be able to take back Guyana for you all then?

FM
caribny posted:
ba$eman posted:

Indians face an existential threat in Guyana and must unite to survive!! 

The best way to ensure that you don't survive is failing to develop cross ethnic alliances.

In another 15-20 years Indians will be LESS than 30% of the population.

You think that Jagdeo will be able to take back Guyana for you all then?

Another 15-20 years, the way the PNC going, Guyana will be an administrative territory of Venez or Brazil!!  That should make Blacks happy ass they have to deal less with "clannish coolies"!!

FM
ba$eman posted:
caribny posted:
ba$eman posted:

Indians face an existential threat in Guyana and must unite to survive!! 

The best way to ensure that you don't survive is failing to develop cross ethnic alliances.

In another 15-20 years Indians will be LESS than 30% of the population.

You think that Jagdeo will be able to take back Guyana for you all then?

Another 15-20 years, the way the PNC going, Guyana will be an administrative territory of Venez or Brazil!!  That should make Blacks happy ass they have to deal less with "clannish coolies"!!

That woulda happened under your wimpy ass govt. Like you, they'd find joy in this happening under the Coalition and the reason is exactly as Carib has been drilling into you rass holes all these dam years...some of you consider yourselves as Indian and not Guyanese. Try deh!

cain
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cain posted:
 

That woulda happened under your wimpy ass govt. Like you, they'd find joy in this happening under the Coalition and the reason is exactly as Carib has been drilling into you rass holes all these dam years...some of you consider yourselves different to other Guyanese...why?

Yes, how can we forget the sight of baseman and his brown bai KKK crew begging Maduro to invade Guyana and get rid of Granger.  In fact Maduro was describing Granger using the SAME WORDS that Jagdeo did, so you know that Jagdeo called him for help.

As to their disinterest in being Guyanese.  Yes we already remember the screams when they reported with rage about Moses claiming to be a Guyanese, not an Indian.  Apparently he should have said that he is an Indian, not a Guyanese.........Jagdeo at work again I bet.

FM
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