The PPP regime with Jagdeo at the helm, was the "most murderous" in the history of Guyana. Their record of extra-judicial killings is unmatched.  

That's a figment.  The PPP had to deal with a major inter-gang drug war which resulted in many gang members and many police deaths.  It's ludicrous you pin this on the Govt who was trying to control the crime situation.

The government had a murder for hire scheme using a Drug lord. it does not matter how they got themselves into that fix. That hey did is incompetence of the highest order. To be legitimate a government has to be a government of laws. This was a government of contract murder.

Just shut up for a minute and catch your breath.  Your brain is oxygen starved.

The PPP government led by Jagdeo, hired a drug lord to carry out extra judicial killings on a scale never before seen in Guyana's history. They also facilitated the drug lord and his executioners by providing them with the spy equipment and ensuring they were not prosecuted after they were caught with a large stash of arms. There are ways to control out of control crime within the confines of the law and then there is state sponsored murder a la PPP style. Those are the facts. Not my fault if you can't deal with them.

 Why should I shut up? Should I let your lying behind get a free pass? My brain is oxygenated well enough since it is not suffocated by all of that poisonous racist bilge that calcifies yours.

What lie, that drug gangs went after each other?  That we know, the rest is pure conjecture.

 Drug gangs always go after each other. That is what criminal gangs do in turf battles. The fact remains that no official policy to hire drug lords as law enforcement exists in any of the 50 states. 

Was not that time Wendy, but have kept abreast of events in Guyana.

Faced with an "existential" threat, you turn to anyone for survival.  Go lick your wounds.

It would do wonders for you.

 That is bull. As administrators of the state you are empowered to architecture a security infrastructure that is founded on the rule of law.  Stupid personalizing of this wont earn you a political nickle. The war does not touch me. It's evil aggravates me.  It is ignorant, backward, retrogressive, corrupt and undemocratic practices. Pandering to it as useful methodology makes you no less immoral than those pigs in the PPP.

The "existential" threat was to the criminal and incompetent PPP!

What's your point idiot?

statement reposted by yuji.  He clearly agreed with this.

Most Indian females who have been raped suffered at the hands of those known to them....the same goes for every group of females.  Like those employers who fooled these girls into thinking that they had jobs and then exploited them.

Blacks have suffered from crime and people like Long hair who attacked and killed fishermen not that long ago are Indians.

You are saying that 'every group of females that has been raped' know the rapists. Banna you a mixed up dude yo.

Hey Liar,

That was not my statement. You are a liar.

Sugrim.  Poor Sugrim are you saying that the main mission of black men is to rape Indian girs?  Your buddy yuji is saying this.  Yes the usual stereotype of the violent and predatory black man.  Dont you think such implications are racist....oops I meant freedom of speech (to bash blacks) on GNI.

It is an established fact in Guyana and world over that the majority of rape victims knew who the rapist is.   Indeed many of the rapists are friends/acquaintances of the family, and attacks by male relatives is a hidden factor. It will amze you about the secrets that many Guyanese women of all races carry and why so many rapes are never brought to the authorities.

It is also a known fact that sexual harrassment by employers in Guyana is a major problem.  It is a known fact that many girls from the rural areas and the interior are brought into G/twn and then double crossed and forced into prostitution....sometimes even transported to Trinidad and elsewhere. 

Sugrim how many rural Indian fathers are going to let their daughter leave home with some black man who they dont know?  And especially in the 70s when Guyanese were way more conservative than they are now, when females...blacks and Indians...were firmly under their father's control.

sugrim ask yourself why you didnt ask Rev Al and yuji where they get their opinions from?  Or admit that you agree with them.

As I said a statement reposted by yuji. ABIDHA said it and you reposted it without comment.  No condemnation of it as being not only inaccuarte but also racist.

Dont be a coward.  You agreed with him.  A continuation of your screams about how Indians suffered at the hands of blacks, and the implication that blacks, the PNC and Burnham are the only ones to be blamed for our ethnic tensions.

Now if you admit that the PPP, the Jagans and Indians in general are also guilty of formenting our tensions I will let you off the hook....but I know you will never do this.

Go seek medical help. Fact, it was not my statement. 

FACT you reposted it.  Why did you repost it if you do not agree with it.

Unedited.  Comments by ABIDHA reposted by yuji.

Yuji convention is that when people repost another it is because we agree and wish to emphasize.

When we dont agree we add a note below saying so.

You are a coward.

Why is it so agonizingly difficult for you and others to realize that economics is a system of mutual exchange. Indians produced products for an urban center ( and for Indians themselves most of whom have no land to plant like urbanites)

For that they receive cash earned by the purchaser of their products which they used to supply needs they have for products they cannot produce. It is a symbiotic relationship.

If  one or the other is missing from the equation, life would be made difficult for the other. I am sure neither side would starve since necessity is and has always been the mother of invention. 

These and other petty racist commentary undercuts anything you may say that is of consequence. If your primary motivations is to demean and marginalize then it reflects what exists in the society hence there is definite need to address the power relationship.

You who use monies earned from your labor somehow does not equate it with the monies others earn at their tasks. Obviously, Indians do not give away their products and Africans are not the sole purchaser of food goods but the majority of indians do so as well.

Storm is drunk. Pay him no attention. He has not recovered form admin's slap in the face when he tried to pull a page from Burnham and tried to muzzle free speech.

Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Originally Posted by skeldon_man:

Originally Posted by yuji22:

 

Burnham was the first leader to practice Ethinc Cleansing in South America and the Caribbean.

Indo Guyanese survived his brutal era and have once again risen above it,  bruised but stronger. We should never forget.........

The AFC wants to hand these dictators the leadership once again but this time in a silver platter. We must never forget our history. It can repeat itself.

AFC members like Gerhard and others have never publicly mentioned the brutal dictatorship days of the PNC but incite the people of Linden to bring down the Government so that the the PNC can continue it's official policy of ethnic cleansing.

We must stand up and speak out......

Yuji,

Forbes did not want to murder ALL the Indians. He realised if there were no Indians in Guyana the negroes would starve. They would have had to eat a dry coconut a day to survive.

 

Why is it so agonizingly difficult for you and others to realize that economics is a system of mutual exchange. Indians produced products for an urban center ( and for Indians themselves most of whom have no land to plant like urbanites)

 

For that they receive cash earned by the purchaser of their products which they used to supply needs they have for products they cannot produce. It is a symbiotic relationship.

 

If  one or the other is missing from the equation, life would be made difficult for the other. I am sure neither side would starve since necessity is and has always been the mother of invention. 

 

These and other petty racist commentary undercuts anything you may say that is of consequence. If your primary motivations is to demean and marginalize then it reflects what exists in the society hence there is definite need to address the power relationship.

 

You who use monies earned from your labor somehow does not equate it with the monies others earn at their tasks. Obviously, Indians do not give away their products and Africans are not the sole purchaser of food goods but the majority of indians do so as well.

 

You who use monies earned from your labor somehow does not equate it with the monies others earn at their tasks. Obviously, Indians do not give away their products and Africans are not the sole purchaser of food goods but the majority of indians do so as well.

 

 

 

What is the point here? You are not making much sense. 

 I am sorry if you are a little hard in the head.  I would not make sense only if you fail to see the basic point of the first paragraph. Why would black people starve if Indians do not produce? Would not Indians starve also if this was an acceptable premise  since not all Indians are farmers? The crux of the matter is the process is mutual economic exchange and farmers eat and provide for their basic amenities because they have customers. The idea therefore that if Indians do not produce black people starve is nonsensical.

Are you seeking comfort in company of similar kind...dunces? The admin incapacity to live up to the expectations of his own guidelines is not a slap in my face. I do not care about his sense of propriety.

Being a racist is not free speech. It is toxic speech. While it is allowed where there is a gathering of kind as on stormfront; my assumption based on previous history of the site that it was not allowed here. Well, it is good to know that Amral, Safraz, Odeen sees nothing objectionable with low lives like you and  Rev All.

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 Stormborn:

You who use monies earned from your labor somehow does not equate it with the monies others earn at their tasks. Obviously, Indians do not give away their products and Africans are not the sole purchaser of food goods but the majority of indians do so as well.

 

 

 

What is the point here? You are not making much sense. 

Stormborn's meaning is quite clear and if you had any intelligence you would know what he is talking about.

Now unless you are claiming that Indians give away food free to black people, and to those Indians (most of them) are arent involved in farming then cleasrly a mutual need was satisfied.  Those who need food buy from those who produce it.  Those who produce food earn a living from those who consume it.

Now unless you are about to tell us that wheat farmers in the USA ought to laugh at Guyanese because w/o their wheat Guyanese will not have any flour (clearly a staple of Guyanese diet as we learned after Burnham banned it) and so will starve this meaning ought to be clear to you.

Hmmmm. So glad you are that this site allows people to spout anto black bigotry tht would be quite acceptable on a KKK site.

Its good though as we know beyond a doubt that the anto black editorial in the Chronicle a month back was sanctione dby Freedom House.

They then scream about "ungrateful black man" when their failure to get significant  AfroGuyanese votes lands them with no control over parliament.

Why would they when the same comments are made at every PPP bottom house and became extremely shrill when the racists learnt that free food and T shirts doesnt get them black votes.

The PNC will tell a one-sided tale of Burnham's life.  We, the people, will tell the other side. Bring it on! We are ready to refute the myths and lies APNU is getting ready to feed the public.

You do not need to refute myths. That would be subtext. You need to write what you know, that is text from context. That is what scholars do.

Knock yourself out, Stormy. You ain't going anyway far with your intellectual BS. Keep writing as if you are some intellectual god. You are just an annoyance on this forum

The PNC will tell their lies, pretending as if only the PPP contributed to the violence to the point where they had to complain to the Governor.  Of course you know otherwise.

And you the PPP will tell your lies pretending as if you all didnt have a role to play too.  You will peddle the PPP lie of course.

Listen 1964, when most of the violence occurred, was a case of two thugs battling each other using their supporters as stooges and caring little when their supporters were victimized by the other side.

I have no interest in debating which side suffered more as there is no credible data available to prove or disprove this.  Most assuredly Wismar was only part of the story and there was widespread violence all over coastal Guyana.

Suffice to say that Africans, Indians and others were killed, injured, suffered property lost and forced to relocate.  Even Odeen Ishmael, clearly having PPP bias, admits that, so why dont you.

You are dishonest if you try to fool yourself that PYO entities werent armed and didnt receive training from Fidel castro, just as PNC/UF operatives recieved arms and training from the CIA.  Too many tales of Indians with cutlasses awaiting blacks fleeing from their burning homes, sometimes well oiled so that they couldnt be caugght by any trying to defend themselves.

!961/64 was a battle on two fronts.  At one level were Indian and African elites (with the assistance of the Portuguese/mixed/Chinese elites) battling for power.  The latter selected Burnham as they thought him less dangerous...of course they soon discovered he wa sno pet poodle.

At another level Guyana was caught up in the USA/USSR Cold War and both sides used local agents in their battle to secure Guyana for themselves.

If intellect is annoying find a forum for stupid people. I am simply telling you of the necessity to perverse the words of everyone. It is the legacy of all.

Originally Posted by Ronald Sugrim:

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 Stormborn:

You who use monies earned from your labor somehow does not equate it with the monies others earn at their tasks. Obviously, Indians do not give away their products and Africans are not the sole purchaser of food goods but the majority of indians do so as well.

 

 

 

What is the point here? You are not making much sense. 

Stormborn's meaning is quite clear and if you had any intelligence you would know what he is talking about.

 

Now unless you are claiming that Indians give away food free to black people, and to those Indians (most of them) are arent involved in farming then cleasrly a mutual need was satisfied.  Those who need food buy from those who produce it.  Those who produce food earn a living from those who consume it.

 

Now unless you are about to tell us that wheat farmers in the USA ought to laugh at Guyanese because w/o their wheat Guyanese will not have any flour (clearly a staple of Guyanese diet as we learned after Burnham banned it) and so will starve this meaning ought to be clear to you.

Blacks and Indians need each other. We don't need a thesarus to tell us that. Matter of fact we ALL need each other in Guyana. 

The ongoing problem of distrust of the PNC and now AFC will end when the PNC apologises for crimes committed against citizens of Guyana who suffered tremendously under the Burnham and Hoyte dictatorship era.

Ask the hundred of thousands of Guyanese who fled as a result of these PNC dictators and thugs. 

Freedom of speech was muzzelled under these two dictators to an extend that Guyanese were not allowed to own TV's. It must be noted that Storm, Carib and other PNC die hard fans still defend these dictators.

Gerhard has never publicly condemned the PNC for crimes committed against Guyanese citizens but crawl into bed with these thugs and created an atmosphere of riot, looting and burning in Linden.

History has a habit of repeating itself. The AFC also excludes muslims from its decision making process. We must be vigilant in preserving our democracy otherwise we will end up with thugs and dictators who will be far worse than Burnham and Hoyte.

Yet when a racist on this site implied that blacks need Indians otherwise they would starve you attacked stormborn for attacking that premise.

You seem very protective of Indians who make anti black statements.

WShen do we defend the PNC.  If you check my posts you will see open comdemnation by me of Burnham and that I think that PPP=PNC.

So if I condemn the PPP I also condemn the PNC which I see as no different.

The onus is now on you to prove that I defend the PNC and Burnham.

You defend the PPP and its nonsense and justify this by inventing a fiction that others here defend Burnham.

I see Wuji22 still being a patacake..and a racial one at that, hmmm.

Some Afros are better at some things, some Indians are better at other things however, most could serve equally in many parts of society.  Guyana will do much better when racists views and hateful minds like that of Caribj, Storm, Redux, etc are espunged from the landscape.