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PPP to take to the streets against illegal GECOM appointment

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… Jagdeo vows to fight to ensure free and fair elections in 2020
…calls on all Guyanese to support protest actions

The People’s Progressive Party (PPP) has formally endorsed the plans of its leadership in relation to Head of State David Granger’s unilateral appointment of Justice (rtd) James Patterson as Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) and will soon be taking to the streets as part of measures to ensure the conditions for free, fair and transparent elections are restored and met, “both constitutionally and in the composition and practices of the institutions and persons tasked with this vital role.”

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Opposition Leader and General Secretary of the PPP, Bharrat Jagdeo, held a high-level meeting with parliamentary Opposition members, Regional Democratic Councillors, members of the PPP Central and Executive Committees and the three Opposition-appointed GECOM Commissioners.
The Party has since formally endorsed Jagdeo’s initial pronouncement on “the unilateral appointment of retired Justice James Patterson as Chairman of GECOM by President David Granger, at night on 19th October, 2017, and, the response to this undemocratic, unlawful, unconstitutional act by the President, and, the extent of the ‘non-cooperation’ actions announced by the Leader of the Opposition in his press statement on the evening of October 19, 2017.”
Among the measures endorsed by the Party’s leadership, the PPP will “launch picketing exercises, petitions, appeals, vigils, marches and other peaceful forms of protest to highlight the issues relating to the undemocratic, unilateral, and illegal appointment of the Chairman of the GECOM.”
The measures were announced as part of an official party policy to adopt a policy of critical non-participation in the A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) governmental activities throughout the length and breadth of Guyana.
As it relates to the Party’s participation in the National Assembly, the Party has officially stated that it will continue to fight “in some aspects of the National Assembly and at the GECOM, to protect the integrity of the electoral machinery by undertaking meetings, in and out of Guyana, with the representatives of foreign countries and international institutions, to expose the extent and import of constitutional violations by the Granger APNU/AFC regime.”
Among the measures adopted by the Party’s leadership is to “challenge by court action in the courts and at the Caribbean Court of Justice, as necessary, the steps undertaken by President Granger to subvert and thwart the spirit, letter, and intent of the Constitution.”
The Party is expected to also roll out a countrywide sensitisation campaign as it relates to “the ongoing threat to democracy and the Guyana Constitution and to resist the stealthy move to an authoritarian state; undertake meetings countrywide to sensitise the Guyanese people and to use other means, including social media and the media, to the reasons, for non-cooperation, and on the progress of the campaign.”
The Party also intends to brief and consult civic society bodies which participated in the consultations and which produced the 18 individuals whose names were submitted by the Leader of the Opposition to the President for the post of Chairman of the GECOM between December 2016 and August 2017, even as it consistently and regularly engage with national and regional stakeholders to hold Government accountable and ensure that democracy is not derailed.
The political party has already pulled out of participation in the Border Commission which was slated to meet this week following a recent flare-up in relations between the two countries.
The Opposition Leader on Thursday last met briefly with the Head of State, who informed him that the third list of nominees for the post of GECOM Chairman was unacceptable and that Justice (rtd) Patterson would be appointed.
The President formally rejected the third list on Thursday and immediately swore in Justice (rtd) Patterson who was himself notified only hours earlier.
The Opposition Leader subsequently met with media operatives and announced that the Party would be embarking on a countrywide campaign of non-cooperation with Government.
Following Friday’s high-level meeting, the Party formally communicated its formalised scope of intended actions. Meanwhile, the Party also responded to the women’s arm of the Alliance For Change which was on Friday critical of Jagdeo’s threats.
According to the PPP, “we have also noted the sycophantic ramblings of the AFC apologists in their response to the Leader of the Opposition… So desperate to prove their loyalty to the APNU, the AFC accused the Leader of the Opposition of an unpatriotic stance of non-cooperation and civil disobedience and promised to hold him personally responsible.
The Party in its formal statement said “the Leader of the Opposition shall not be intimidated by the corrupt cowards of the AFC whose only interest in governance is their personal well-being and enjoyment of the perks of office.”
According to the Party, it “has been down this path before in similar situations in the past, and, we, as a party and our supporters, have prevailed and we overcame with the restoration of democracy on October 5, 1992.”
The Party has since called on “all Guyanese, both as individuals and institutions, to become fully acquainted with the issue of the unilateral appointment of GECOM Chairman Patterson; the repeated assaults on democracy; and support the exercise of the right to freedom of speech and peaceful protests in consistent interventions to protect Guyana’s democracy.”

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alena06 posted:

PPP to take to the streets against illegal GECOM appointment

 

 

Among the measures endorsed by the Party’s leadership, the PPP will “launch picketing exercises, petitions, appeals, vigils, marches and other peaceful forms of protest to highlight the issues relating to the undemocratic, unilateral, and illegal appointment of the Chairman of the GECOM.”

Quite different from Hoyte's "mo fiah, slo fiah" protests.

FM
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Mits, your position is in line with AFC's leadership, your position seems to be in line with the cowards at the AFC. Please correct me if I am wrong and what is your actual position on this matter ?

Did you speak with Moses or Ramjattan ?

FM
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Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

FM
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

So you agree the street protest is a waste of time.

Mitwah
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

Granger knows he can mobilize the PNC army, the PNC police, and the PNC riot and burn thugs at any moment, should the people rebel. Just like Putin, Kim Jung Un, and Mugabe.

FM
Mitwah posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

So you agree the street protest is a waste of time.

No. My comment was about how Granger regard the Court, not how Jagdeo regard the right of the Opposition Party.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

Granger knows he can mobilize the PNC army, the PNC police, and the PNC riot and burn thugs at any moment, should the people rebel. Just like Putin, Kim Jung Un, and Mugabe.

So does any other reasonable thinking person. The outstanding criticism is how come Moses and Ramjattan didn't know this when they helped Granger load the cannons.

FM
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

So you agree the street protest is a waste of time.

No. My comment was about how Granger regard the Court, not how Jagdeo regard the right of the Opposition Party.

You see Ksaz, PPP street protest is a waste of time. PNC will unleash their killing machine of mo fiah on the peaceful protests. PNC "Black Gyad" loud mouth supporters can scream and yell at the PPP suporters and the PNC police would do nothing to them but harass the PPP supporters.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
 

You see Ksaz, PPP street protest is a waste of time. PNC will unleash their killing machine of mo fiah on the peaceful protests. PNC "Black Gyad" loud mouth supporters can scream and yell at the PPP suporters and the PNC police would do nothing to them but harass the PPP supporters.

Perhaps. However, I cannot condone any actions similar to Hoyte's "mo fiah, slo fiah" ones.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

Granger knows he can mobilize the PNC army, the PNC police, and the PNC riot and burn thugs at any moment, should the people rebel. Just like Putin, Kim Jung Un, and Mugabe.

As Borther Kaz pointed out, Moses and Ramjattan helped Granger load up the cannons. These two scoundrels Ramjattan and Moses have no shame whatsoever.

Their next jobs will be to stuff ballot boxes in 2020.

That's all they are worth to Granger.

FM
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yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

Granger knows he can mobilize the PNC army, the PNC police, and the PNC riot and burn thugs at any moment, should the people rebel. Just like Putin, Kim Jung Un, and Mugabe.

As Borther Kaz pointed out, Moses and Ramjattan helped Granger load up the cannons. These two scoundrels Ramjattan and Moses have no shame whatsoever.

Their next jobs will be to stuff ballot boxes in 2020.

That's all they are worth to Granger.

PPP insiders knew of these two traitors. They were the news carrier to the US embassy. No wonder the PPP did not want them.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

Granger knows he can mobilize the PNC army, the PNC police, and the PNC riot and burn thugs at any moment, should the people rebel. Just like Putin, Kim Jung Un, and Mugabe.

As Borther Kaz pointed out, Moses and Ramjattan helped Granger load up the cannons. These two scoundrels Ramjattan and Moses have no shame whatsoever.

Their next jobs will be to stuff ballot boxes in 2020.

That's all they are worth to Granger.

PPP insiders knew of these two traitors. They were the news carrier to the US embassy. No wonder the PPP did not want them.

They were filling up the ambassador's ears with nancy stories.

These chaps are the most disgraceful politicians on the planet. They could have pulled the rug from under Granger's feet but they chose to load up his cannons and stuff ballot boxes.

FM
yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

Granger knows he can mobilize the PNC army, the PNC police, and the PNC riot and burn thugs at any moment, should the people rebel. Just like Putin, Kim Jung Un, and Mugabe.

As Borther Kaz pointed out, Moses and Ramjattan helped Granger load up the cannons. These two scoundrels Ramjattan and Moses have no shame whatsoever.

Their next jobs will be to stuff ballot boxes in 2020.

That's all they are worth to Granger.

PPP insiders knew of these two traitors. They were the news carrier to the US embassy. No wonder the PPP did not want them.

They were filling up the ambassador's ears with nancy stories.

These chaps are the most disgraceful politicians on the planet. They could have pulled the rug from under Granger's feet but they chose to load up his cannons and stuff ballot boxes.

Any actions contrary to Granger's warnings might result in unimaginable consequences.

FM

Someone needs to remind Mits that US citizens took to the streets to protest Trump's racist and anti Muslim policies and it worked successfully to stop him in his tracks.

Peaceful protests are essential to raise awareness of the Dictatorial motives of Granger.

Internation organizations, civic bodies, trade unions, human rights organizations etc have already condemned Granger's actions. The opposition has a job to ensure that democracy is maintained.

The AFC Leadership cowards are hiding under their desks endorsing and supporting Granger because their dead meat is stinking across Guyana today.

They need to hide under Granger's skirt for their survival.

FM
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:
ksazma posted:
Mitwah posted:

This is a matter for the courts to decide if the appointment is illegal.

Granger has already proven that he doesn't care what the court thinks. The judge's orders to him have still not been followed.

So you agree the street protest is a waste of time.

No. My comment was about how Granger regard the Court, not how Jagdeo regard the right of the Opposition Party.

Just checking!  I am not against the street protest, it's a way of mobilising support. But the real test would be in a proper court.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:  am not against the street protest, it's a way of mobilising support. But the real test would be in a proper court.
 

Ultimately, the streets bring about change. Remember the Movement Against Parking Metres [MAPM]? Thousands rallied around City Hall for over 6 consecutive Thursdays and halted skulduggery. Remember street protests in Tunisia and Egypt 6-7 years ago? Ordinary citizens toppled entrenched dictators. What is needed now is a broad-based Movement Against Patterson [MAP] that should besiege the Elections Commission Office every week. Those organizations that have condemned Granger's action should bring out their supporters and members in peaceful protests --- PPP, FITUG, PSC, GHRA, Bar Association, Chris Ram, Ralph Ramkarran and other sections of civil society. 

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Mitwah posted:  am not against the street protest, it's a way of mobilising support. But the real test would be in a proper court.
 

Ultimately, the streets bring about change. Remember the Movement Against Parking Metres [MAPM]? Thousands rallied around City Hall for over 6 consecutive Thursdays and halted skulduggery. Remember street protests in Tunisia and Egypt 6-7 years ago? Ordinary citizens toppled entrenched dictators. What is needed now is a broad-based Movement Against Patterson [MAP] that should besiege the Elections Commission Office every week. Those organizations that have condemned Granger's action should bring out their supporters and members in peaceful protests --- PPP, FITUG, PSC, GHRA, Bar Association, Chris Ram, Ralph Ramkarran and other sections of civil society

And we here in the diaspora can do our part. This brings back lots of memories of Sat.

Mitwah
Gilbakka posted:
 

What is needed now is a broad-based Movement Against Patterson [MAP] that should besiege the Elections Commission Office every week.

 

Given that the brother didn't know which end of the pen had the ink, my guess is that he wouldn't know that there is a movement outside his office. 

FM
ksazma posted:
Gilbakka posted:
 

What is needed now is a broad-based Movement Against Patterson [MAP] that should besiege the Elections Commission Office every week.

 

Given that the brother didn't know which end of the pen had the ink, my guess is that he wouldn't know that there is a movement outside his office. 

If his ears are clean he will hear the collective shout. Remember what happened at the walls of Jericho? History is a great guide.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
ksazma posted:
Gilbakka posted:
 

What is needed now is a broad-based Movement Against Patterson [MAP] that should besiege the Elections Commission Office every week.

 

Given that the brother didn't know which end of the pen had the ink, my guess is that he wouldn't know that there is a movement outside his office. 

If his ears are clean he will hear the collective shout. Remember what happened at the walls of Jericho? History is a great guide.

I am not sure if his ears are clean either. I notice in the video that Granger was gesturing to him to go sit dahside. Maybe he didn't hear him the first time. 

FM
ksazma posted:
Gilbakka posted:

What is needed now is a broad-based Movement Against Patterson [MAP] that should besiege the Elections Commission Office every week.

Given that the brother didn't know which end of the pen had the ink, my guess is that he wouldn't know that there is a movement outside his office. 

Perhaps, he does not need a pen for everything will be prepared and signed by Granger and Harmon.

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
ksazma posted:
Gilbakka posted:

What is needed now is a broad-based Movement Against Patterson [MAP] that should besiege the Elections Commission Office every week.

Given that the brother didn't know which end of the pen had the ink, my guess is that he wouldn't know that there is a movement outside his office. 

Perhaps, he does not need a pen for everything will be prepared and signed by Granger and Harmon.

This brings to mind the term 'rubberstamp'. 

FM
ksazma posted:
alena06 posted:

PPP to take to the streets against illegal GECOM appointment

 

 

Among the measures endorsed by the Party’s leadership, the PPP will “launch picketing exercises, petitions, appeals, vigils, marches and other peaceful forms of protest to highlight the issues relating to the undemocratic, unilateral, and illegal appointment of the Chairman of the GECOM.”

Quite different from Hoyte's "mo fiah, slo fiah" protests.

Jagdeo was noted to use hooligans with paramilitia gangs during his reign.  People like Roger Khan.  Your racism and Indo KKK instincts become blatant when you deny this.

Sat Sawh's family even allege that it was the PPP who was behind his murder.

It will not surprise me if he uses similar methods again. The rule of law isn't Jagdeo's modus.  The screams of the PPP when Khan was seized is evidence of this.

FM
caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
alena06 posted:

PPP to take to the streets against illegal GECOM appointment

 

 

Among the measures endorsed by the Party’s leadership, the PPP will “launch picketing exercises, petitions, appeals, vigils, marches and other peaceful forms of protest to highlight the issues relating to the undemocratic, unilateral, and illegal appointment of the Chairman of the GECOM.”

Quite different from Hoyte's "mo fiah, slo fiah" protests.

Jagdeo was noted to use hooligans with paramilitia gangs during his reign. 

 

Was Hoyte reigning when he made his "mo fiah, slo fiah" threats?

FM
caribny posted:

The PPP would have had higher moral standing if they dumped Jagdeo.  They didn't.

Any one who joins forces with Jagdeo in protesting is naïve.

You seem quite threatened by Jagdeo being Opposition Leader. You can't be concerned with the well being of the PPP because that would require you denouncing all your previous sentiments.

FM
caribny posted:

The PPP would have had higher moral standing if they dumped Jagdeo.  They didn't.

Any one who joins forces with Jagdeo in protesting is naïve.

Based on what I'm hearing, many folks are in a mood for peaceful protests whether or not Jagdeo is involved. They have my moral support. 

Regarding your first sentence, Jagdeo will not be PPP Leader forever. The logic of experience, demographics and winnability will necessitate a new leader/presidential candidate in due course. Perhaps not before 2020 but certainly after that. Personally, I am thinking long term.

FM
ksazma posted:
 

You seem quite threatened by Jagdeo being Opposition Leader. 

I am actually not.  If the PPP wants to allow APNU/AFC to win the next election they are welcomed to allow the Grand Wizard of the Indo KKK with his "coolie people party" to remain at its head.

As of now the only hope that APNU/AFC have of winning is to have Jagdeo running around Guyana terrifying black and mixed voters to the polls, as he did in 2015.

Now if the PPP wishes to reinvent itself and claim some level of moral superiority they would dump Jagdeo.  But I don't expect much from the Indo KKK party.  Yes the same one that printed in the Chronicle that blacks are criminal, lazy, violent and of no use to Guyana.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
 

Regarding your first sentence, Jagdeo will not be PPP Leader forever. 

So why not begin a new era in Guyanese politics and dump Jagdeo. He has the stench of all that ails politics in Guyana.  He will only polarize Guyanese along racial lines. How does his presence help Guyana move forward?

It seems dishonest to condemn Granger's behavior and not also the fact that Jagdeo is equally unfit.  They BOTH represent the sordidness of Guyanese politics and why that nation remains the laughing stock of the Caribbean, and among the poorest in the hemisphere.

FM
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caribny posted:
Gilbakka posted:
 

Regarding your first sentence, Jagdeo will not be PPP Leader forever. 

So why not begin a new era in Guyanese politics and dump Jagdeo. 

At this point in time that's a near impossible task because Jagdeo succeeded in neutering key PPP functionaries. I think that if free and fair election is held in 2020 and if the PPP loses with Jagdeo as presidential candidate, the party membership will be emboldened to call for Jagdeo's resignation.

FM
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Gilbakka posted:
caribny posted:
Gilbakka posted:
 

Regarding your first sentence, Jagdeo will not be PPP Leader forever. 

So why not begin a new era in Guyanese politics and dump Jagdeo. 

At this point in time that's a near impossible task because Jagdeo succeeded in neutering key PPP functionaries. I think that if free and fair election is held in 2020 and if the PPP loses with Jagdeo as presidential candidate, the party membership will be emboldened to call for Jagdeo's resignation.

Ditto!!

Django
caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
 

You seem quite threatened by Jagdeo being Opposition Leader. 

I am actually not.  If the PPP wants to allow APNU/AFC to win the next election they are welcomed to allow the Grand Wizard of the Indo KKK with his "coolie people party" to remain at its head.

As of now the only hope that APNU/AFC have of winning is to have Jagdeo running around Guyana terrifying black and mixed voters to the polls, as he did in 2015.

Now if the PPP wishes to reinvent itself and claim some level of moral superiority they would dump Jagdeo.  But I don't expect much from the Indo KKK party.  Yes the same one that printed in the Chronicle that blacks are criminal, lazy, violent and of no use to Guyana.

But I don't expect much from the Indo KKK party.  Yes the same one that printed in the Chronicle that blacks are criminal, lazy, violent and of no use to Guyana.

 

Can you show PROOF of this statement, or copy of the Chronicle Paper. Talk is Cheap.

K
caribny posted:

The PPP would have had higher moral standing if they dumped Jagdeo.  They didn't.

Any one who joins forces with Jagdeo in protesting is naïve.

be so as it may, there are not many choices so this will have to do for now. I don't like Jagdeo, but I dislike what Granger did even more

FM
Gilbakka posted:

At this point in time that's a near impossible task because Jagdeo succeeded in neutering key PPP functionaries. .

I suggest that fixing the PPP be your priority and not being used by Jagdeo as part of his Machiavellian plot. Jagdeo submitted a bunch of names to Granger that he knew that Granger wouldn't accept.  Given that all of the prior GECOM chairmen were Indians it would be no surprise if a black person was wanted.

Did Jagdeo submit any neutral qualified blacks who could be seen as above board and not in bed with him. Norman McLean is an insult.  This was a man who was instrumental in Burnham's rigging, and has now jumped into bed with the PPP and is implicated in the lawlessness of Jagdeo's era.

FM
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