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If those pictures are of Linden, boy I tell you the PPP have those ppl living in the jungle.

 

I've bin hearing all dis talk about how Linden is a progrssive community-and ready for major investments.

 

That is whole lot of crap-propaganda to the hilt.

 

Hey! there Albert, please tell the President to start clearing the bush in every community. The ppl will begin to have pride in themselves.

The way u ppl doing things, is juss like backwards. I doan think there is anywhere a Government like the one the PPP boys are showing.

S

There are no sincerity in comments of the AFC. Dey also using the blasted ppl.

 

Run dem baxside out of the place. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE.

 

Lindeners have to organize themselves and seek after every possible avenue there is that qualifies them for what is rightfully theirs from the government.

 

Demand what is yours and doan allow outsiders to come and manage your affairs.

 

Ppl just get used by politicians-and that is been going on for over six decades. The PPP dropouts still using the same old tactics of the PPP. 

S
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

Alliance for Change in Linden, July 20 2012 - Part 2

 

Isn't this the same AFC MP who stayed away from the committee meeting allowing Asnhi's wife appointment to be confirmed? Lol. Trevor lives on Norton Street not Linden.  Like di whole a AFC wen up Linden while Ramjattan and Moses wen Berbice. Surprisingly none of them were there to take the police rounds 

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

Albert: Surprisingly none of them were there to take the police rounds 

 

Why are you surprised? Your death threaths have been like water on duck backs.

Dear Editor,
My blood boiled when I read the headline of Kaieteur news of July 19, 2012 which screamed, “Linden protest turns deadly, four dead two dozen injured.” The political opposition APNU and AFC were not instigating that the protest.
Surely those who protested were supporters both of the APNU and AFC. The question which I ask is, “Were the people of Linden entitled to the leadership of APNU and AFC in this protest?” How is it that no leader of APNU and AFC was in the forefront to face the volley of bullets and protect the people?
I remember well the period at the Office of the President when the people marched all the way from as far as Belladrum, West Coast Berbice. When the marched reached New Garden Street Robert Corbin lost his way and somehow found himself in the vicinity of the Ministry of Finance when the volley of bullets were fired at his comrades at New Garden Street. It is not the citizens who were shot and killed that day; it was the PNC which lost some of its supporters.
Again I recall the killing of Donna Herod in the vicinity of Freedom House. Where were the leaders of the PNC? I recall well, after the Lugisnan massacre the people were marching to Georgetown. I learnt that the police were going to fire at the crowd to ensure that the march did not reach Georgetown.
I later saw in the vicinity of Beterverwagting I noticed that the police had taken up battle position. I tried to turn back the march and placed myself between the marchers and the police and the marchers, women were crying and stating that they intended to die that day.
It only when Dr Ram, the dentist at Annandale came that the people halted, he knew many of them personally. We were not leaders of anyone.
I have walked with old soldiers —- Granger, Collins and Harmon (not too sure). Where was the former Commissioner of Police Felix? Where were Benschop and Kissoon? Where were champions of black rights, David Hinds and Lincoln Lewis? Where was Ramjattan.  I frown upon them all.
Vic Puran

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

Albert: Surprisingly none of them were there to take the police rounds 

 

Why are you surprised? Your death threaths have been like water on duck backs.

Dear Editor,
My blood boiled when I read the headline of Kaieteur news of July 19, 2012 which screamed, “Linden protest turns deadly, four dead two dozen injured.” The political opposition APNU and AFC were not instigating that the protest.
Surely those who protested were supporters both of the APNU and AFC. The question which I ask is, “Were the people of Linden entitled to the leadership of APNU and AFC in this protest?” How is it that no leader of APNU and AFC was in the forefront to face the volley of bullets and protect the people?
I remember well the period at the Office of the President when the people marched all the way from as far as Belladrum, West Coast Berbice. When the marched reached New Garden Street Robert Corbin lost his way and somehow found himself in the vicinity of the Ministry of Finance when the volley of bullets were fired at his comrades at New Garden Street. It is not the citizens who were shot and killed that day; it was the PNC which lost some of its supporters.
Again I recall the killing of Donna Herod in the vicinity of Freedom House. Where were the leaders of the PNC? I recall well, after the Lugisnan massacre the people were marching to Georgetown. I learnt that the police were going to fire at the crowd to ensure that the march did not reach Georgetown.
I later saw in the vicinity of Beterverwagting I noticed that the police had taken up battle position. I tried to turn back the march and placed myself between the marchers and the police and the marchers, women were crying and stating that they intended to die that day.
It only when Dr Ram, the dentist at Annandale came that the people halted, he knew many of them personally. We were not leaders of anyone.
I have walked with old soldiers —- Granger, Collins and Harmon (not too sure). Where was the former Commissioner of Police Felix? Where were Benschop and Kissoon? Where were champions of black rights, David Hinds and Lincoln Lewis? Where was Ramjattan.  I frown upon them all.
Vic Puran

I ask the same question over and over again. How come the PAC leadership(The Jagans, Ashton Chase, Lachmansingh, etc etc) din get not even a scratch, but the Enmore ppl got killed.

S

Sugrim and baseman must be having a heart attack seeing that Indian man describing what really happened.  Promises made by Sam Hinds not fulfilled and MORE EXPENSIVE fuel used to generate electricity!

 

Noted also was a spirit of revenge by the PPP who were tossed out of Linden. Last time they got enough votes to pretend that they and not the AFC deserved a seat.  This time stomped into the grfound....no PPP seats.....This afetr boasting that they would capture Linden.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:

Sugrim and baseman must be having a heart attack seeing that Indian man describing what really happened.  Promises made by Sam Hinds not fulfilled and MORE EXPENSIVE fuel used to generate electricity!

 

Noted also was a spirit of revenge by the PPP who were tossed out of Linden. Last time they got enough votes to pretend that they and not the AFC deserved a seat.  This time stomped into the grfound....no PPP seats.....This afetr boasting that they would capture Linden.

Indians tend to be naive assuming giving will get you anywhere.  The PPP needs to focus on all of Guyana equally and not try to pander to any specific segment to win the over at the expense of the "bird in the hand".  My advice to the PPP, take care of home-base, as much as anywhere else.

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians tend to be naive assuming giving will get you anywhere.  The PPP needs to focus on all of Guyana equally and not try to pander to any specific segment to win the over at the expense of the "bird in the hand".  My advice to the PPP, take care of home-base, as much as anywhere else.

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.

What did the PPP do for Linden that was so 'special'??

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.


How many jobs created  in Linden.  Appreciate an answer with supporting data.

 

I look forward to Guysuco being purchased by a Chinese company.  When they completely shut down its Demerara operations and mechanize its Berbice operations I look forward to you telling the displaced INDIAN sugar workers that they ought not to depend on govt.

 

No from you we will hear about these "hardworking" Guyanese who ought to be supported by other Guyanese, many even worse off than they are.

 

You will not that these sugar areas have more alternatives.  If one can grow sugar other forms of agriculture, with a hungry CARICOM market in much need of alternatives to increasing US food suppliers.  

 

What of Linden with its low quality and porous soils which render it unsuitable for most forms of agriculture?  Please dont say chicken or pigs because when their waste contaminates the water table that will be another issue.

 

The PPP needs to learn that "projects" which benefit only PPP supporters and those who they hire...neither Lindeners or Buxtonians...do not address the long term needs of these communities, so they need to stop pretending a sif they have done much to help.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians tend to be naive assuming giving will get you anywhere.  The PPP needs to focus on all of Guyana equally and not try to pander to any specific segment to win the over at the expense of the "bird in the hand".  My advice to the PPP, take care of home-base, as much as anywhere else.

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.

What did the PPP do for Linden that was so 'special'??

The PPP subsidize electricity rates for Linden. That is, they get special price while the rest a de country go to pay high price. This is one example only.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians tend to be naive assuming giving will get you anywhere.  The PPP needs to focus on all of Guyana equally and not try to pander to any specific segment to win the over at the expense of the "bird in the hand".  My advice to the PPP, take care of home-base, as much as anywhere else.

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.

What did the PPP do for Linden that was so 'special'??

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden. That is, they get special price while the rest a de country go to pay high price. This is one example only.

Explain to me again why this price is a "special" gift from the PPP . . . wasn't it so under British and PNC rule??

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.


How many jobs created  in Linden.  Appreciate an answer with supporting data.

 

I look forward to Guysuco being purchased by a Chinese company.  When they completely shut down its Demerara operations and mechanize its Berbice operations I look forward to you telling the displaced INDIAN sugar workers that they ought not to depend on govt.

 

No from you we will hear about these "hardworking" Guyanese who ought to be supported by other Guyanese, many even worse off than they are.

 

You will not that these sugar areas have more alternatives.  If one can grow sugar other forms of agriculture, with a hungry CARICOM market in much need of alternatives to increasing US food suppliers.  

 

What of Linden with its low quality and porous soils which render it unsuitable for most forms of agriculturePlease dont say chicken or pigs because when their waste contaminates the water table that will be another issue.

 

The PPP needs to learn that "projects" which benefit only PPP supporters and those who they hire...neither Lindeners or Buxtonians...do not address the long term needs of these communities, so they need to stop pretending a sif they have done much to help.

Once again, excuses, excuses, excuses.  What do you propose?  Now, you are smart enough to know that Sugar and Aluminum are two very different businesses and markets.

 

Sugar was once owned by the Brits as a secure supply for sugar, alcohol and other by-products.  As other nations industries rise and due to the nationalization, the sugar industry would have less takers due to ample supplies and such it became a ward of the state, so to speak.  Sugar has declined over the years but you don't see and hear the displaced workers ranting and raving waiting for some magical solutions.  They moves onto fishing, shrimping and other alternatives.

 

Bauxite is different as it's an ore consumed by industrialized nations.  There are alternate suppliers so you do want to get a partner who has good inroads into a consuming market.  China is not a bad choice as it's one of the few resource-hungry nations around these days.  Unlike oil, aluminum is 90% recycled, so having a market where "new" demand is high is a good choice.  You want the mining integrated with the other down-stream processes.  Due to global capacity, few want to invest in the down-stream, so then get a partner with just that albeit, in another nation.

 

Now, you say NO to agro due to "soil conditions", you say NO to animal husbandry due to ground water issues.  Now, make a viable and practical proposal other that a hat-in-hand proposal.  Caribj, you ought to join the AFC, they are an "NO" philosophy organization.  You are like a toddler who is ill and refuse the medication.  Stop making excuses for yourself and "your" people and start finding or proposing solutions.  No one owes you anything, be a man and take responsibility....for yourself.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians tend to be naive assuming giving will get you anywhere.  The PPP needs to focus on all of Guyana equally and not try to pander to any specific segment to win the over at the expense of the "bird in the hand".  My advice to the PPP, take care of home-base, as much as anywhere else.

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.

What did the PPP do for Linden that was so 'special'??

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden. That is, they get special price while the rest a de country go to pay high price. This is one example only.

Explain to me again why this price is a "special" gift from the PPP . . . wasn't it so under British and PNC rule??

No.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians tend to be naive assuming giving will get you anywhere.  The PPP needs to focus on all of Guyana equally and not try to pander to any specific segment to win the over at the expense of the "bird in the hand".  My advice to the PPP, take care of home-base, as much as anywhere else.

 

With all the did, they go got nothing to show in Linden and such places but lost in their home base.

What did the PPP do for Linden that was so 'special'??

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden. That is, they get special price while the rest a de country go to pay high price. This is one example only.

Explain to me again why this price is a "special" gift from the PPP . . . wasn't it so under British and PNC rule??

No.

Okaaay, remedial education still an option for U . . . it's never too late

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden.

That's false.

 

The GOG or GPL is the not the supplier.

 

BOSAI is selling its excess power to the residents at marginal rates for a profit.

Lets put this to a test. Please ask the AFC and APNU to make an agreement for a special request with GPL to turn off their electricity power supply to Linden permanently? And let part of that agreement be that Lindeners stop complaining/protesting and don't take GPL to court. Would you do that for me Bro?

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden.

That's false.

 

The GOG or GPL is the not the supplier.

 

BOSAI is selling its excess power to the residents at marginal rates for a profit.

Lets put this to a test. Please ask the AFC and APNU to make an agreement for a special request with GPL to turn off their electricity power supply to Linden permanently? And let part of that agreement be that Lindeners stop complaining/protesting and don't take GPL to court. Would you do that for me Bro?

LOL!!! GPL has blackouts times more than days in the year. Bosai have a steady flow from the walking draglines and seldom any blackouts.

 

Dada, you are out of touch. hahahahahahaha!

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden.

That's false.

 

The GOG or GPL is the not the supplier.

 

BOSAI is selling its excess power to the residents at marginal rates for a profit.

Lets put this to a test. Please ask the AFC and APNU to make an agreement for a special request with GPL to turn off their electricity power supply to Linden permanently? And let part of that agreement be that Lindeners stop complaining/protesting and don't take GPL to court. Would you do that for me Bro?

LOL!!! GPL has blackouts times more than days in the year. Bosai have a steady flow from the walking draglines and seldom any blackouts.

 

Dada, you are out of touch. hahahahahahaha!

OK Mitts you might be right on this one. i will give you the benefit of the doubt. What will happen to Linden when BOSAI pull out their operations from Guyana, as has been stated on GNI. Who will supply them then and would you support equal pricing.

FM
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden.

That's false.

 

The GOG or GPL is the not the supplier.

 

BOSAI is selling its excess power to the residents at marginal rates for a profit.

Lets put this to a test. Please ask the AFC and APNU to make an agreement for a special request with GPL to turn off their electricity power supply to Linden permanently? And let part of that agreement be that Lindeners stop complaining/protesting and don't take GPL to court. Would you do that for me Bro?

LOL!!! GPL has blackouts times more than days in the year. Bosai have a steady flow from the walking draglines and seldom any blackouts.

 

Dada, you are out of touch. hahahahahahaha!

OK Mitts you might be right on this one. i will give you the benefit of the doubt. What will happen to Linden when BOSAI pull out their operations from Guyana, as has been stated on GNI. Who will supply them then and would you support equal pricing.

Bosai is enjoying high profits. Do you think that they will give up all that Gold and Diamonds.. Perhaps other Chinese hiding in the bush to take over if or when they decide to pull out. Anyway, Bosai only employs few locals and these are very low paying jobs.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Dondadda:

The PPP subsidie electricity rates for Linden.

That's false.

 

The GOG or GPL is the not the supplier.

 

BOSAI is selling its excess power to the residents at marginal rates for a profit.

So sugrim, dondadda, nehru,baseman,druggie and all the memebrs of the IndoKKK "we hate blackman" clan, tell us why you think that Lindeners should pay more when its increasingly obvious that there is no real subsidy.  Just a PPP envious that BOSAi does a better job than GPL and enraged that it lost its oen seat in Linden.

 

Rather than you all telling us that Lindeners get cheap power because the govt pays BOSAI, offsetting its costs, you now tell us that communism is good and govt should control the provision of electricity. Sitting down in North America or whereever you are you dont make the same demands of those govts.

 

Tell you what baseman if some mainly Indo area of Guyana had cheap electricty you would be p romoting that as a good location for manufacturing.  But as a bigotted man who hates blacks you will never think of this.  You and your other disciples like Sugrim.

FM
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Lets put this to a test. Please ask the AFC and APNU to make an agreement for a special request with GPL to turn off their electricity power supply to Linden permanently? And let part of that agreement be that Lindeners stop complaining/protesting and don't take GPL to court. Would you do that for me Bro?


Easy as GPL does NOT supply Linden. BOSAI does.

 

Of course the PPP stirred up a hornet's nest by demanding that Lindeners pay more when it seems increasingly that they have no need to.  Now how about if the PPP instead promoted Linden, not only as a gate way to the interior, but a location where energy intensive industries can be located, given lower costs.  High electricity being a major obstacle restraining the growth of the manufacturing sector.

 

 

Then rather then giving Lindeners a few crumbs of charity they woukld then have good paying jobs and may even praise the PPP for this, given that APNU and the AFC have no good ideas, except to be ambulance chasers running behind their discontent.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

This video shows the people cussing the soldiers/police in the wake of the murder of their neighbors . . .

 

What exactly is your point again?


They should see protests elsewhere where people are actually throing things at the police.  I didnt know that a cuss down meant that some one should be killed.

 

 

PPP idiots its clear that you all are unable to prove that the police were under threat.  A tin pot Hitler issued an order to clear the bridge, and when they refused as is usual with protests he ordered live bullets to be used.

 

Assad, Mubarak, Qaddafy and Fidel Castro must be happy with Ramotar.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

It's going down in History that PPP have blood on their hands.

 

There is no harm when taking down extremists and terrorists.

what a 'tough' little dude . . . go take your GI Joe and play with Nehru in the sandbox . . . go on 

 

The police are ready and waiting on orders. Take a close look.

FM

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