Past State Assets Stolen it will be useless to go after wrondoers-Nandalall.

No law allows any official in the past to steal state’s assets and get away- SARU Officers

– “Let Nandlall be patient. He will find out when the Bill is passed if SARA can go after past officials”

August 31,2016 Source

By Kiana Wilburg
Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall is of the firm opinion that when the State Assets Recovery Agency (SARA) Bill becomes law, it would be useless in the pursuit of past wrongdoers.

Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall

Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall

According to Nandlall’s understanding, only those individuals who stole assets after the Bill is passed would be held liable.
The former Minister of Legal Affairs had said that it is not possible for past defaulters to be brought before the courts, because Guyana’s constitution does not allow the law to be retroactive.
But after noting these comments, the State Asset Recovery Unit (SARU) which will soon become SARA, concluded that Nandlall is nothing but “professional at misleading the nation.”
SARU officials who spoke with Kaieteur News yesterday made it clear that in the case of the SARA Bill, there are no new offences being created which would prohibit the body from going after those wrongdoers of the past.
They stressed that a quick look at the offences as listed in the SARU Draft Legislation would prove this.
According to the Bill, “if a person knows or suspects that an authorized officer is acting or proposing to act in connection with a civil recovery investigation which is being or is about to be conducted, the person commits an offence, if – (a) the person makes a disclosure which is likely to prejudice the investigation; or (b) the person falsifies, conceals, destroys or otherwise disposes of, or causes or permits the falsification, concealment, destruction or disposal of, documents which are relevant to the investigation.”
The Bill also states that a financial institution commits a summary offence if without reasonable excuse; it fails to comply with a requirement imposed on it under a customer information order.
It says too that, a financial institution commits a summary offence if, in purported compliance with a customer information order, it – (a) makes a statement which it knows to be false or misleading in a material particular, or (b) recklessly makes a statement which is false or misleading in a material particular.
Additionally, the Bill says, “A person who makes or sends a threat to or, in any way intimidates or menaces, or assaults or attempts to assault a member of staff of SARA, or any member of the family of a member of staff of SARA commits an offence.”
Another aspect of the Bill which deals with offences says, “A person commits an offence if without reasonable excuse, he fails to comply with a requirement imposed on him under a disclosure order.”
The SARU officials made it clear that these offences do not in any way inhibit the body’s powers when it becomes an agency to go after officials who stole assets from the state.”
One official said, “Had there been no provision in Guyana’s laws which state that it is an offence to steal, and SARA’s Bill was now seeking to do so, then Mr. Nandlall’s claim would have been in order. We would not have been able to take action against those who stole prior to the Bill coming to life.”
The SARU officer added, “However, what the learned former Attorney General must understand is the fact that stealing state assets or fraudulently converting it for one’s own gains is captured in different ways in many other aspects of our financial laws. Therefore, this Bill when it becomes law will empower SARA to act and enforce those aspects of the law which already speak to stolen state assets and can be recovered via the courts.”
Major (Rtd) Aubrey Heath-Retemyer, who is also part of the SARU team, expressed similar sentiments.
He stressed that Nandlall’s comments are misleading to say the least.
The official said, “If you steal the Government’s property, what law in this country allows you to keep it? There is none. No law allows any official in the past to steal state’s assets and get away with it. So I don’t care how Nandlall wants to turn it and twist it. This Bill is going after property which belongs to the state and that is not some new offence.”
The SARU officer said that the former Attorney General must desist from fooling himself and fooling the nation that those who stole from the state will get away with it.
Heath-Retemyer said that the SARA Bill will allow the entity to deal with stolen assets cases which occurred in the past and “it will allow us to do so effectively.”
He said, “Let Nandlall be patient. He will find out when the Bill is passed if it can go after past officials who stole assets from the state. Nothing Nandlall says will change the fact that stolen state assets will be recovered.”

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Nehru posted:

Django, you bareface scum, you are a LYING, conniving DOG!!!!!!!!!  You also are a DUNCE and a desperate lunatic!!! 

 

Changing words of a Title is easy being a bloody Jackass you are is easy!!!!

By Kiana Wilburg
Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall is of the firm opinion that when the State Assets Recovery Agency (SARA) Bill becomes law, it would be useless in the pursuit of past wrongdoers.

According to Nandlall’s understanding, only those individuals who stole assets after the Bill is passed would be held liable


 

You low life daag read the above maybe you are a frigging dunce and can't read you prick.

Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Django, you bareface scum, you are a LYING, conniving DOG!!!!!!!!!  You also are a DUNCE and a desperate lunatic!!! 

 

Changing words of a Title is easy being a bloody Jackass you are is easy!!!!

By Kiana Wilburg
Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall is of the firm opinion that when the State Assets Recovery Agency (SARA) Bill becomes law, it would be useless in the pursuit of past wrongdoers.

According to Nandlall’s understanding, only those individuals who stole assets after the Bill is passed would be held liable


 

You low life daag read the above maybe you are a frigging dunce and can't read you prick.

And FOOL, most Laws are NOT retroactive, so The HONORABLE MR NANDALALL has a point.

Anil is hoping that it isn't retroactive.

Its this simple. Theft is wrong.  So if he stole he will face some degree of punishment.  How much depends on the evidence that is provided.  Mightn't be enough for jail.  Might be enough for asset seizure.

But what Anil is really saying is that his liquid assets are stashed away in Panama (he made good use of the COPA flight) and so Clive cannot take it.

Nehru posted:

And for ALL DUNCES, the HONORABLE ATTORNEY  OF DISTINCTION is saying there is enough Laws in the Books to Prosecute for such offenses!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully when the heat starts the discrimination card will not be raised,it's about time who ever steals state assets should be prosecuted.

Django posted:
Nehru posted:

And for ALL DUNCES, the HONORABLE ATTORNEY  OF DISTINCTION is saying there is enough Laws in the Books to Prosecute for such offenses!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully when the heat starts the discrimination card will not be raised,it's about time who ever steals state assets should be prosecuted.

That's exactly what's gonna happen dude but I'll just sit back, read and laugh at them as they complain.


Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall is of the firm opinion that when the State Assets Recovery Agency (SARA) Bill becomes law, it would be useless in the pursuit of past wrongdoers.

According to Nandlall’s understanding, only those individuals who stole assets after the Bill is passed would be held liable.

The former Minister of Legal Affairs had said that it is not possible for past defaulters to be brought before the courts, because Guyana’s constitution does not allow the law to be retroactive.

By Kiana Wilburg, No law allows any official in the past to steal state’s assets and get away- SARU Officers,  August 31,2016 Source

Correct on the fundamental issue regarding a new law.

PNC/AFC government and officials may pursue this proposed legislation, uncoordinated and unrelated to its legitimacy of the laws of Guyana.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall is of the firm opinion that when the State Assets Recovery Agency (SARA) Bill becomes law, it would be useless in the pursuit of past wrongdoers.

According to Nandlall’s understanding, only those individuals who stole assets after the Bill is passed would be held liable.

The former Minister of Legal Affairs had said that it is not possible for past defaulters to be brought before the courts, because Guyana’s constitution does not allow the law to be retroactive.

By Kiana Wilburg, No law allows any official in the past to steal state’s assets and get away- SARU Officers,  August 31,2016 Source

Correct on the fundamental issue regarding a new law.

PNC/AFC government and officials may pursue this proposed legislation, uncoordinated and unrelated to its legitimacy of the laws of Guyana.

Past State Assets Stolen it will be useless to go after wrondoers-Nandalall.

 

So you really think it's okay what this thief said here?

cain posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:

Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall is of the firm opinion that when the State Assets Recovery Agency (SARA) Bill becomes law, it would be useless in the pursuit of past wrongdoers.

According to Nandlall’s understanding, only those individuals who stole assets after the Bill is passed would be held liable.

The former Minister of Legal Affairs had said that it is not possible for past defaulters to be brought before the courts, because Guyana’s constitution does not allow the law to be retroactive.

By Kiana Wilburg, No law allows any official in the past to steal state’s assets and get away- SARU Officers,  August 31,2016 Source

Correct on the fundamental issue regarding a new law.

PNC/AFC government and officials may pursue this proposed legislation, uncoordinated and unrelated to its legitimacy of the laws of Guyana.

Past State Assets Stolen it will be useless to go after wrondoers-Nandalall.

 

So you really think it's okay what this thief said here?

Still does not address your statement to which I made this comment ...

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Figments of your wild imaginations; or you have proof of your statement?

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Django posted:
Nehru posted:

And for ALL DUNCES, the HONORABLE ATTORNEY  OF DISTINCTION is saying there is enough Laws in the Books to Prosecute for such offenses!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully when the heat starts the discrimination card will not be raised,it's about time who ever steals state assets should be prosecuted.

Is 18 months now not a friggin drop!!!!!!!!!!  Gwan sun Stupide Bill!!!!!!!!

Nehru posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

And for ALL DUNCES, the HONORABLE ATTORNEY  OF DISTINCTION is saying there is enough Laws in the Books to Prosecute for such offenses!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully when the heat starts the discrimination card will not be raised,it's about time who ever steals state assets should be prosecuted.

Is 18 months now not a friggin drop!!!!!!!!!!  Gwan sun Stupide Bill!!!!!!!!

You will find out who is Stupide Bill,patience bhai alyuh a pujah Burnham Constitution,the pieces of legislation are being put in place, soon there will be some fire under some people buttocks.

cain posted:
Prashad posted:

Stealing from the East Indian tax payer is an unforgiveable crime. One way or another they must pay.

So is only Indians who pay taxes in Guyana nuh baie?

Blackman lazy. Jagdeo used to be in the cane fields every day and then went to plant rice.

caribny posted:

Anil is hoping that it isn't retroactive.

Its this simple. Theft is wrong.  So if he stole he will face some degree of punishment.  How much depends on the evidence that is provided.  Mightn't be enough for jail.  Might be enough for asset seizure.

But what Anil is really saying is that his liquid assets are stashed away in Panama (he made good use of the COPA flight) and so Clive cannot take it.

No you dunce, it will not be retroactive as you cannot pass a law which was not there, then accuse anyone of not complying with something which was not there.  You bloody dunce.

Any accusation of legal wrong doing needs to point to the existing statutes which were violated!!

Anyone who stole assets should be punished, but you have to prove that under existing law!

ba$eman posted:
 

No you dunce, it will not be retroactive as you cannot pass a law which was not there,

It is unlawful to steal.  It is unlawful to be corrupt.   If PPP officials were corrupt then they broke the law.

So yes the government can seize assets that were unlawfully acquired through corruption.

Now I know that Anil as a Jagdeo disciple doesn't understand that corruption was always against the law but that is what it is.

caribny posted:
ba$eman posted:
 

No you dunce, it will not be retroactive as you cannot pass a law which was not there,

It is unlawful to steal.  It is unlawful to be corrupt.   If PPP officials were corrupt then they broke the law.

So yes the government can seize assets that were unlawfully acquired through corruption.

Now I know that Anil as a Jagdeo disciple doesn't understand that corruption was always against the law but that is what it is.

So far zero PPP jailed for corruption or stealing. We are still waiting. What is the hold up? No smoking gun found? What a waste of tax payers dollars with forensic audits that yeilded zero PPP bandits. 

Drugb posted:
 

So far zero PPP jailed for corruption or stealing. We are still waiting.

Don't worry.  At some point Jagdeo will go into howls of panic when he sees a life of endless gang rapes that his buddy Roger Khan is now going through.

Clive Thomas is working with the Americans to uncover the evidence.  Better hope that Trump wins.

BTW druggie if the PPP stole nothing then why are they claiming that this law will be useless in seizing assets of those who committed wrong doings? Here they admit that they did do wrong, and now boast that despite this, that they cannot be punished.

caribny posted:
ba$eman posted:
 

No you dunce, it will not be retroactive as you cannot pass a law which was not there,

It is unlawful to steal.  It is unlawful to be corrupt.   If PPP officials were corrupt then they broke the law.

So yes the government can seize assets that were unlawfully acquired through corruption.

Now I know that Anil as a Jagdeo disciple doesn't understand that corruption was always against the law but that is what it is.

You dunce, we know that!!  What you and your hapless crew have not done thus far is prove this in a court of law. If they did what you say they did, then why does your PNC want new laws.  If you cannot prove it, then it's all speculation and rumours.  You bloody bunch of cheats and liars.

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