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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAK3giKlwBY

 

 

 

[O]n behalf of Dr. [Ashni] Singh . . .

 

DO WHAT THE CHINESE ARE DOING YOU BUSINESSMEN! When China Invests, China takes Chinese. China takes Chinese to farm whether in Africa or in Suriname . . . I went there and I was appalled last year - I go to vacation in Suriname. Suriname is a small country, 400,000, but there is already 10% Chinese - over 40,000 Chinese. They are not only taking over the businesses, the small businesses, they are taking over the country. CHINA IS THINKING STRATEGICALLY.

 

. . . I challenge you, the businessmen from India . . . [you can] take these farmers, for example, from Punjab that I have heard about - that the land is running out; the water level has dropped; you can’t have that. Guyana will welcome them! The Chinese are getting immigrant visas for their people; they are coming into Guyana already. I am talking of hundreds of thousands of acres of farmland that you can cultivate. The DY Patel Group is the 1st Indian Company that has gone in. I think they have gone to 68,000 hectares of land . . .

 

I am part of a group that not only owns media [but] is in pharmaceuticals, and we can maybe partner . . .”

 

- Ravi Dev, November 22, 2014

  World Hindu Economic Forum

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from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

FM
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

it defies logic only to the scampishly 'blind'

 

give me one good reason why it would even be a stretch to feel certain that barrat & the Jagdeoite brain trust endorses these "views"

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

it defies logic only to the scampishly 'blind'

 

give me one good reason why it would even be a stretch to feel certain that barrat & the Jagdeoite brain trust endorses these "views"

 

Hindutva anything does not fit the lifestyle of any Guyanese Indian. None of us, even our most devout Hindus, are so fanatically committed to the cause of Hinduism.

 

When ya'll even use that word Hindutva, the rest of us kind of laugh at ya'll. It's kind of funny actually.

 

Ravi Dev was like one of 3 people in ROAR who actually believed in Hindutva out of like 100 of the main people. The rest of us just ignored them on their Hindutva beliefs because we were only interested in a system where Indians don't get beaten/raped/robbed/murdered as part of the political game.

 

Ravi has decades old pre-existing ties to the incumbent BJP Government of India so I can understand why he would be the chosen one to send to India as emissary to this conference.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

it defies logic only to the scampishly 'blind'

 

give me one good reason why it would even be a stretch to feel certain that barrat & the Jagdeoite brain trust endorses these "views"

 

Hindutva anything does not fit the lifestyle of any Guyanese Indian. None of us, even our most devout Hindus, are so fanatically committed to the cause of Hinduism.

 

When ya'll even use that word Hindutva, the rest of us kind of laugh at ya'll. It's kind of funny actually.

 

Ravi Dev was like one of 3 people in ROAR who actually believed in Hindutva out of like 100 of the main people. The rest of us just ignored them on their Hindutva beliefs because we were only interested in a system where Indians don't get beaten/raped/robbed/murdered as part of the political game.

 

Ravi has decades old pre-existing ties to the incumbent BJP Government of India so I can understand why he would be the chosen one to send to India as emissary to this conference.

look fella, there were many, many communist (Soviet) sympathizers who were not committed Bolsheviks

 

that there are many Hindutva fellow-travelers there is no doubt . . . what of it?

 

u are a perfect example

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

it defies logic only to the scampishly 'blind'

 

give me one good reason why it would even be a stretch to feel certain that barrat & the Jagdeoite brain trust endorses these "views"

 

Hindutva anything does not fit the lifestyle of any Guyanese Indian. None of us, even our most devout Hindus, are so fanatically committed to the cause of Hinduism.

 

When ya'll even use that word Hindutva, the rest of us kind of laugh at ya'll. It's kind of funny actually.

 

Ravi Dev was like one of 3 people in ROAR who actually believed in Hindutva out of like 100 of the main people. The rest of us just ignored them on their Hindutva beliefs because we were only interested in a system where Indians don't get beaten/raped/robbed/murdered as part of the political game.

 

Ravi has decades old pre-existing ties to the incumbent BJP Government of India so I can understand why he would be the chosen one to send to India as emissary to this conference.

look fella, there were many, many communist (Soviet) sympathizers who were not committed Bolsheviks

 

that there are many Hindutva fellow-travelers there is no doubt . . . what of it?

 

u are a perfect example

 

Well when the choices are limited to Indian Domination v. Black domination, I think you'll find strange bedfellows all around.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

it defies logic only to the scampishly 'blind'

 

give me one good reason why it would even be a stretch to feel certain that barrat & the Jagdeoite brain trust endorses these "views"

 

Hindutva anything does not fit the lifestyle of any Guyanese Indian. None of us, even our most devout Hindus, are so fanatically committed to the cause of Hinduism.

 

When ya'll even use that word Hindutva, the rest of us kind of laugh at ya'll. It's kind of funny actually.

 

Ravi Dev was like one of 3 people in ROAR who actually believed in Hindutva out of like 100 of the main people. The rest of us just ignored them on their Hindutva beliefs because we were only interested in a system where Indians don't get beaten/raped/robbed/murdered as part of the political game.

 

Ravi has decades old pre-existing ties to the incumbent BJP Government of India so I can understand why he would be the chosen one to send to India as emissary to this conference.

look fella, there were many, many communist (Soviet) sympathizers who were not committed Bolsheviks

 

that there are many Hindutva fellow-travelers there is no doubt . . . what of it?

 

u are a perfect example

Well when the choices are limited to Indian Domination v. Black domination, I think you'll find strange bedfellows all around.

good . . . i'm not really interested in how you claim u got 'there,' just that u admit that u are there!

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

it defies logic only to the scampishly 'blind'

 

give me one good reason why it would even be a stretch to feel certain that barrat & the Jagdeoite brain trust endorses these "views"

 

Hindutva anything does not fit the lifestyle of any Guyanese Indian. None of us, even our most devout Hindus, are so fanatically committed to the cause of Hinduism.

 

When ya'll even use that word Hindutva, the rest of us kind of laugh at ya'll. It's kind of funny actually.

 

Ravi Dev was like one of 3 people in ROAR who actually believed in Hindutva out of like 100 of the main people. The rest of us just ignored them on their Hindutva beliefs because we were only interested in a system where Indians don't get beaten/raped/robbed/murdered as part of the political game.

 

Ravi has decades old pre-existing ties to the incumbent BJP Government of India so I can understand why he would be the chosen one to send to India as emissary to this conference.

look fella, there were many, many communist (Soviet) sympathizers who were not committed Bolsheviks

 

that there are many Hindutva fellow-travelers there is no doubt . . . what of it?

 

u are a perfect example

Well when the choices are limited to Indian Domination v. Black domination, I think you'll find strange bedfellows all around.

good . . . i'm not really interested in how you claim u got 'there,' just that u admit that u are there!

 

I like how you enjoy your assumptions about me. I'm actually of the opinion that in a choice between Indian Domination v. Black Domination, I'd cast my lot with Black Domination because we've had Indian Domination for about 23 years now. And in that 23 years I've only seen the condition of the ordinary Indian deteriorate to such an alarming degree that we're now reduced to emigrating to CARICOM island realms to become indentured servants for the locals.

 

The PPP has managed to ruin Indians not since 1992 but before. From the inception, they've sent us down a path of ruin.

 

So I choose de facto Black Domination in the form of APNU in the hope that they will run a Government where Black interests will be paramount but also that they will have a care for Indian people. Maybe do small but important things like arrest the rampant crime and end the fleecing of poor people by the Berbice Bridge Company. Indians have very very low expectations of Central Government. They're so low that even the PNC can easily meet if not exceed them.

 

That is as frank a response as I can muster.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:

from a combined population for T&T/Guyana/Suriname of approx. 2,650,000, Ravi Dev counts 2,000,000 Indians (mussbe employing the 1-drop rule), and pitches the Hindu component as "more than" 1,000,000!!!

 

T&T = 18% Hindus

Guyana = 28% Hindus

Suriname = 27% Hindus

 

sumbady help me here with dis high level ROAR maths, please

 

My only question is whether he had official sanction for this speech. This seems to be such an extraordinary speech that defies logic.

 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

it defies logic only to the scampishly 'blind'

 

give me one good reason why it would even be a stretch to feel certain that barrat & the Jagdeoite brain trust endorses these "views"

 

Hindutva anything does not fit the lifestyle of any Guyanese Indian. None of us, even our most devout Hindus, are so fanatically committed to the cause of Hinduism.

 

When ya'll even use that word Hindutva, the rest of us kind of laugh at ya'll. It's kind of funny actually.

 

Ravi Dev was like one of 3 people in ROAR who actually believed in Hindutva out of like 100 of the main people. The rest of us just ignored them on their Hindutva beliefs because we were only interested in a system where Indians don't get beaten/raped/robbed/murdered as part of the political game.

 

Ravi has decades old pre-existing ties to the incumbent BJP Government of India so I can understand why he would be the chosen one to send to India as emissary to this conference.

look fella, there were many, many communist (Soviet) sympathizers who were not committed Bolsheviks

 

that there are many Hindutva fellow-travelers there is no doubt . . . what of it?

 

u are a perfect example

Well when the choices are limited to Indian Domination v. Black domination, I think you'll find strange bedfellows all around.

good . . . i'm not really interested in how you claim u got 'there,' just that u admit that u are there!

 

I like how you enjoy your assumptions about me. I'm actually of the opinion that in a choice between Indian Domination v. Black Domination, I'd cast my lot with Black Domination because we've had Indian Domination for about 23 years now. And in that 23 years I've only seen the condition of the ordinary Indian deteriorate to such an alarming degree that we're now reduced to emigrating to CARICOM island realms to become indentured servants for the locals.

 

The PPP has managed to ruin Indians not since 1992 but before. From the inception, they've sent us down a path of ruin.

 

So I choose de facto Black Domination in the form of APNU in the hope that they will run a Government where Black interests will be paramount but also that they will have a care for Indian people. Maybe do small but important things like arrest the rampant crime and end the fleecing of poor people by the Berbice Bridge Company. Indians have very very low expectations of Central Government. They're so low that even the PNC can easily meet if not exceed them.

 

That is as frank a response as I can muster.

you need to make up your mind . . . the cognitive dissonance is frightening

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
 

I can't imagine the PPP endorsing these views that he lays out.

The PPP does exactly that.  Jagdeo has been trying for years to turn Guyana into Indesh.  The man really despises black people.

 

Every time PPP racism stares you in the face you find some excuse for it, because you see, you prefer the rant that only the PNC (black people) are racists.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
 

Hindutva anything does not fit the lifestyle of any Guyanese Indian.

 

 

The fact that most Indo Guyanese don't know is why Ravi can peddle this to the PPP, who will see this as ensuring that the demographic bomb which is hurtling towards them will not explode.  They think that if migration from India occurs, and more of the economy falls into the hands of people from India, then they will rule in perpetuity.

 

You also know that few in India who espouse Hindutva actually live their lives according to it.  This is a power play to keep non Hindus, and southern Indians under control.  And Dalits in their place.

FM

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