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AFC Leaders advised Granger not to pick Jagdeo’s nominees for GECOM Chairmanship- internal correspondence

 

FLASH BACK: President David Granger and Minister of Public Security, Khemraj Ramjattan. In the background is Minister of State, Joseph Harmon.

New evidence has surfaced showing that top Alliance For Change (AFC) leaders did in fact advise President David Granger not to pick any of Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo’s second batch of nominees for the post of Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) and that the Guyanese leader could go ahead and unilaterally appoint someone else of his choice.

The surfacing of this information in internal party correspondence contradicts the AFC’s official position stated publicly twice in its press releases since Granger’s unilateral appointment of Retired Justice James Patterson as chairman of the elections management body.

Chairman of the Alliance For Change (AFC), Khemraj Ramjattan on Thursday confirmed that he last month authored an email to party executives, telling them he had advised the President against selecting any of the nominees on the second list.

Those on the second batch were Retired Justice of Appeal B.S Roy,  Retired Justice William Ramlall;  Attorney-at-law and a former Magistrate, Ms. Oneidge Walrond-Allicock; Attorney-at-Law, Kashir Khan;  Attorney-at-law, Nadia Sagar, and businessman, Gerald Gouveia.

In the-mail he also stated categorically that AFC Leader, Raphael Trotman was also present and he, too, also “expressed a similar sentiment”.

In correspondence dated October 22, 2017, to other top party executives, Ramjattan stated categorically that he told the President that he did not support any of Jagdeo’s nominees. “I did express my opinion to the President at a Cabinet break some time back, after the second list from Jagdeo, that I  was not comfortable with any of those names presented. He had asked what I thought of the names,” said Ramjattan who is also Minister of Public Security.

FLASH BACK: Raphael Trotman receiving his instrument of ministerial appointment from President David Granger in 2015.

Ramjattan’s email was dispatched by Laurence Williams who is the Secretary of AFC-Canada. That grouping has already withdrawn temporarily from the AFC unless the Guyana-headquartered party calls for Patterson’s appointment to be withdrawn and for the party to vigorously pursue constitutional reform.

In that same correspondence, the AFC Chairman said he then went on to “advise” Granger that if he was also of that opinion, then he was within his right to proceed to name a person who fits the constitutional requirements as he is empowered to do under the proviso of Guyana’s constitution.

Ramjattan was shown copies of the correspondence by Demerara Waves Online News during break in Thursday’s sitting of the National Assembly. After reading the printouts of the email, he said he had written them.

Asked to comment against the background of the fact that his party had said it was not involved in deciding who should be the GECOM Chairman, he remarked ‘ya” journalists like to deduce a lot” as he walked back into the Public Buildings Chamber.

Retired Justice James Patterson receiving his instrument of appointment as the new Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission from President David Granger.

The AFC Chairman implied that he was aware of the implications of the unilateral appointment and that his party needed to explain its position. “Colleagues, yes, indeed perceptions are reality in politics. So we have to work hard to change this dangerously destructive perception. It means going more on the ground to explain what we (are) doing and why. Plus delivering on what was promised”.

One of the perceptions that Ramjattan said he was wary of was that, with the appointment of Justice Patterson as GECOM Chairman, was that future elections would be rigged and his party could not do anything to stop it. ”  Ramjattan expressed confidence that elections could not be rigged as had been done under the then People’s National Congress administration that had been led by then President Forbes Burnham. “I have already stated that elections are very difficult to rig in the context of the institutional arrangements in place and the very many local and international eyes on them. A Granger administration is therefore differently placed as against that of a Burnham administration. I am aware of the difficulty this argument will have out there but it is the harsh truth,” he said.

Ramjattan suggested that one of the strategies should be for the AFC to place greater emphasis on constitutional reform.

Granger appointed Patterson after deeming Jagdeo’s third set of names unacceptable as well. They were Retired Major General Joseph Singh; Attorney-at-Law, Mr. Teni Housty; Attorney-at-Law, Mr. Sanjeev Datadin; Mrs. Annette Arjune-Martins; Pastor Onesi La Fleur and former Magistrate Mr. Krishnadatt Persaud.

The first list, which was also rejected, was comprised of Conflict Resolution and Governance Specialist, Lawrence Lachmansingh; Retired Major General, Norman Mc Lean; Chartered Accountant and Attorney-at-Law, Christopher Ram; Business Executive Ramesh Dookhoo; History Professor, James Rose and Indian Rights Activist and businesswoman, Rhyaan Shah.

http://demerarawaves.com/2017/...rnal-correspondence/

 

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Jagdeo tried to confuffle Granger,with the three list,he concocted a list with names mixing unacceptable and acceptable persons,thinking Granger will pick one who will be in favor of him.Ganger saw Jagdeo ploy and acted within in the Constitution selecting the GECOM Chairman,Granger should have a better choice,selecting some one much younger,that office is important,bear in mind i have no problem with some one age.

The well played out game by Jagdeo gives the PPP a new mantra,rigging...rigging.

Django
Django posted:

Jagdeo tried to confuffle Granger,with the three list,he concocted a list with names mixing unacceptable and acceptable persons,thinking Granger will pick one who will be in favor of him.Ganger saw Jagdeo ploy and acted within in the Constitution selecting the GECOM Chairman,Granger should have a better choice,selecting some one much younger,that office is important,bear in mind i have no problem with some one age.

The well played out game by Jagdeo gives the PPP a new mantra,rigging...rigging.

Django, that is NOT the issue in the Demerara Waves report above. The issue is that the AFC leadership had initially declared that they had NO SAY in Granger's high-handed pick of Patterson. But, it is now revealed that Trotman and Ramjattan lied brazenly and blatantly. Ramjattan's email is the smoking gun. All of which shows the utter DECEIT of APNU+AFC. This is a government of deception, for deception and by deception.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:

Jagdeo tried to confuffle Granger,with the three list,he concocted a list with names mixing unacceptable and acceptable persons,thinking Granger will pick one who will be in favor of him.Ganger saw Jagdeo ploy and acted within in the Constitution selecting the GECOM Chairman,Granger should have a better choice,selecting some one much younger,that office is important,bear in mind i have no problem with some one age.

The well played out game by Jagdeo gives the PPP a new mantra,rigging...rigging.

Django, that is NOT the issue in the Demerara Waves report above. The issue is that the AFC leadership had initially declared that they had NO SAY in Granger's high-handed pick of Patterson. But, it is now revealed that Trotman and Ramjattan lied brazenly and blatantly. Ramjattan's email is the smoking gun. All of which shows the utter DECEIT of APNU+AFC. This is a government of deception, for deception and by deception.

I am aware bhai,just stitch my part.

any who believes the AFC didn't have any discussions with Granger,i have the Brooklyn Bridge to sell.

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

Django
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Django posted:

Jagdeo tried to confuffle Granger,with the three list,he concocted a list with names mixing unacceptable and acceptable persons,thinking Granger will pick one who will be in favor of him.Ganger saw Jagdeo ploy and acted within in the Constitution selecting the GECOM Chairman,Granger should have a better choice,selecting some one much younger,that office is important,bear in mind i have no problem with some one age.

The well played out game by Jagdeo gives the PPP a new mantra,rigging...rigging.

Django bai, Granger could have picked any one of the 18 persons listed on the three lists but I don't think he ever had any intention on picking anyone other than a die-hard PNC old timer. Had nothing to do with any supposedly game by Jagdeo. To have a PERFECT list of six persons would probably have to defy the laws of probabilities. It is understandable to see why Carib would be concerned that according to him there were no "acceptable black representative", but I can't understand your objection to everyone on the list especially when one of those persons is proficient in both, the law as well as numbers (seemingly two very useful tools for the position) who most recently took Jagdeo to court (proving that he is no friend of Jagdeo).

In short, Granger must have made up his mind on old man Patterson since May 15th 2015 and may have led the effort to have Surujbally vacate the GECOM Chairmanship.

Ram's name was on the very first list which was presented while the details of his lawsuit of Jagdeo was still fresh.

Lastly, rigging is not new. It was part of the general elections of 1968, 1973, 1980 and 1985, as well as the 1978 Referendum (all under PNC governance).

FM
Django posted:
 
That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

Django, don't blame the messenger if the message is straight and true. Ramjatten admitted he wrote the email after Demerara Waves confronted him. THAT is important, not any "mole".

FM

Recently, undercover videos revealed terrible animal abuse at two dairy farms in Miami. These may never had come out had it not been for a mole at those farms. Unfortunately, many people have to be 'forced' to be honest.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
 
That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

Django, don't blame the messenger if the message is straight and true. Ramjatten admitted he wrote the email after Demerara Waves confronted him. THAT is important, not any "mole".

Gilly, you should ask Django how deep he usually go and does he smell shit!!!

Nehru
Nehru posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
 
That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

Django, don't blame the messenger if the message is straight and true. Ramjatten admitted he wrote the email after Demerara Waves confronted him. THAT is important, not any "mole".

Gilly, you should ask Django how deep he usually go and does he smell shit!!!

Banna,give it a rest,no need to be an ass hole,

my conversation with members on this forum is in the form of civility.

samjhe.

Django
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That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

K
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

"Ramjattan’s email was dispatched by Laurence Williams who is the Secretary of AFC-Canada."


 

Banna what you didn't comprehend from the article,read the above.

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

"Ramjattan’s email was dispatched by Laurence Williams who is the Secretary of AFC-Canada."


 

Banna what you didn't comprehend from the article,read the above.

Just because Williams "Dispatched" the emails he has become a mole for PPP, Ramjattan did not say that, that came from your mouth. Further more, I can't comprehend fools, so when you are being labeled , just look at your print.  Williams is dammed right to expose the crooked Rumjaat, he and Moses are fooling the Guyanese people, acting as the Indian representatives in government, when they are tightly in bed with the PNC. According to you, whenever someone speaks out against the Ruling Government , you immediately criticize them , It pays to stay quiet sometimes, you will sound more intelligent.

K
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

"Ramjattan’s email was dispatched by Laurence Williams who is the Secretary of AFC-Canada."


 

Banna what you didn't comprehend from the article,read the above.

Just because Williams "Dispatched" the emails he has become a mole for PPP, Ramjattan did not say that, that came from your mouth. Further more, I can't comprehend fools, so when you are being labeled , just look at your print.  Williams is dammed right to expose the crooked Rumjaat, he and Moses are fooling the Guyanese people, acting as the Indian representatives in government, when they are tightly in bed with the PNC. According to you, whenever someone speaks out against the Ruling Government , you immediately criticize them , It pays to stay quiet sometimes, you will sound more intelligent.

Where is Williams allegiance ?,disagreement should be settled internally in any party,no need to say anything more regarding Mr.Williams.

When it come s to labellings,it's deliberately done when the bigots are exposed.

Django
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kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

So was Mittwa, he was hanging out with Jagdeo .

FM
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Dave posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

So was Mittwa, he was hanging out with Jagdeo .

So he is also a sellout.

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

"Ramjattan’s email was dispatched by Laurence Williams who is the Secretary of AFC-Canada."


 

Banna what you didn't comprehend from the article,read the above.

Just because Williams "Dispatched" the emails he has become a mole for PPP, Ramjattan did not say that, that came from your mouth. Further more, I can't comprehend fools, so when you are being labeled , just look at your print.  Williams is dammed right to expose the crooked Rumjaat, he and Moses are fooling the Guyanese people, acting as the Indian representatives in government, when they are tightly in bed with the PNC. According to you, whenever someone speaks out against the Ruling Government , you immediately criticize them , It pays to stay quiet sometimes, you will sound more intelligent.

Where is Williams allegiance ?,disagreement should be settled internally in any party,no need to say anything more regarding Mr.Williams.

When it come s to labellings,it's deliberately done when the bigots are exposed.

The man is a hero , his allegiance  is with the people of Guyana and not a traitor like the rest. Just wondered  why you did not post this article  it is an eye opener. I can see your allegiance  is with the Pnc

K
Django posted:

Jagdeo tried to confuffle Granger,with the three list,he concocted a list with names mixing unacceptable and acceptable persons,thinking Granger will pick one who will be in favor of him.Ganger saw Jagdeo ploy and acted within in the Constitution selecting the GECOM Chairman,Granger should have a better choice,selecting some one much younger,that office is important,bear in mind i have no problem with some one age.

The well played out game by Jagdeo gives the PPP a new mantra,rigging...rigging.

Why not talk about how the AFC lied to the Guyanese people instead of trying to divert by peddling your cock and bull story? 

Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:

Jagdeo tried to confuffle Granger,with the three list,he concocted a list with names mixing unacceptable and acceptable persons,thinking Granger will pick one who will be in favor of him.Ganger saw Jagdeo ploy and acted within in the Constitution selecting the GECOM Chairman,Granger should have a better choice,selecting some one much younger,that office is important,bear in mind i have no problem with some one age.

The well played out game by Jagdeo gives the PPP a new mantra,rigging...rigging.

Django, that is NOT the issue in the Demerara Waves report above. The issue is that the AFC leadership had initially declared that they had NO SAY in Granger's high-handed pick of Patterson. But, it is now revealed that Trotman and Ramjattan lied brazenly and blatantly. Ramjattan's email is the smoking gun. All of which shows the utter DECEIT of APNU+AFC. This is a government of deception, for deception and by deception.

I am aware bhai,just stitch my part.

any who believes the AFC didn't have any discussions with Granger,i have the Brooklyn Bridge to sell.

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

Please post your evidence to support your assertion that the AFC chairman in Canada is a PPP mole and was seen hanging around Jagdeo. Maybe so photo. No, not statement by Ramjattan because he is now known  as a bare-faced liar.

the fact is that the leadership of theAFC lied to the Guyanese people. They were kissing Granger's posterior all the time.

Z
Django posted:
Nehru posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
 
That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

Django, don't blame the messenger if the message is straight and true. Ramjatten admitted he wrote the email after Demerara Waves confronted him. THAT is important, not any "mole".

Gilly, you should ask Django how deep he usually go and does he smell shit!!!

Banna,give it a rest,no need to be an ass hole,

my conversation with members on this forum is in the form of civility.

samjhe.

You must have a warped sense if civility if you use the word "as....e" while claiming that your conversation with members is in the form of civility. 

Do not respond to the bait!

Z
Django posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

"Ramjattan’s email was dispatched by Laurence Williams who is the Secretary of AFC-Canada."


 

Banna what you didn't comprehend from the article,read the above.

Does this action make him a PPP mole? 

The fact is that the AFC leadership lied to the Guyanese people! Bare faced liars!

Z
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:

Jagdeo tried to confuffle Granger,with the three list,he concocted a list with names mixing unacceptable and acceptable persons,thinking Granger will pick one who will be in favor of him.Ganger saw Jagdeo ploy and acted within in the Constitution selecting the GECOM Chairman,Granger should have a better choice,selecting some one much younger,that office is important,bear in mind i have no problem with some one age.

The well played out game by Jagdeo gives the PPP a new mantra,rigging...rigging.

Django, that is NOT the issue in the Demerara Waves report above. The issue is that the AFC leadership had initially declared that they had NO SAY in Granger's high-handed pick of Patterson. But, it is now revealed that Trotman and Ramjattan lied brazenly and blatantly. Ramjattan's email is the smoking gun. All of which shows the utter DECEIT of APNU+AFC. This is a government of deception, for deception and by deception.

I am aware bhai,just stitch my part.

any who believes the AFC didn't have any discussions with Granger,i have the Brooklyn Bridge to sell.

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

Was this your boss lilmohan?

FM
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

"Ramjattan’s email was dispatched by Laurence Williams who is the Secretary of AFC-Canada."


 

Banna what you didn't comprehend from the article,read the above.

Just because Williams "Dispatched" the emails he has become a mole for PPP, Ramjattan did not say that, that came from your mouth. Further more, I can't comprehend fools, so when you are being labeled , just look at your print.  Williams is dammed right to expose the crooked Rumjaat, he and Moses are fooling the Guyanese people, acting as the Indian representatives in government, when they are tightly in bed with the PNC. According to you, whenever someone speaks out against the Ruling Government , you immediately criticize them , It pays to stay quiet sometimes, you will sound more intelligent.

Where is Williams allegiance ?,disagreement should be settled internally in any party,no need to say anything more regarding Mr.Williams.

When it come s to labellings,it's deliberately done when the bigots are exposed.

Does the same way of settling disagreement hold for The liars Moses and Ramjattan when they had disputes with the ppp leadership? Did they follow what you suggest?

Django posted:
Dave posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

So was Mittwa, he was hanging out with Jagdeo .

So he is also a sellout.

hanging around with Jagdeo makes Mitts a sellout? (Assuming that he did) get serious

Django posted:
Dave posted:
kp posted:

That so called AFC fella in Canada,who disclose the email,is a PPP mole,he was seen hanging out with Jagdeo.

 

 As you enjoy labeling others, the same can be said of you being a PNC MOLE in GNI.

 

So was Mittwa, he was hanging out with Jagdeo .

So he is also a sellout.

I remember you making disparaging remarks about Guyanese political party supporters because they are like sheep, you said. They follow their leader without  opposition. Now one goes against something the leadership did and now you disparage that one. Make up your mind. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

 

Z

The bottom line is that the leadership of the AFC lied to the Guyanese people about their non-involvement in Granger decision to make a unilateral appointment of the Chairman of Gecom. 

Say it, agree with me. I bet you cannot agree to the first sentence of this post!

 

Z
Zed posted:

The bottom line is that the leadership of the AFC lied to the Guyanese people about their non-involvement in Granger decision to make a unilateral appointment of the Chairman of Gecom. 

Say it, agree with me. I bet you cannot agree to the first sentence of this post!

 

Damn you did well today,responding to most of my post.

There is no doubt the AFC lied,most of the politicians in Guyana can't give a strait answer,they babbles most of the time.

Granger said he will discuss the GECOM lists with Cabinet he will not make a decision on his own,that tells the AFC was in decision making to select the GECOM Chairman.

Django
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Django posted:
Zed posted:

The bottom line is that the leadership of the AFC lied to the Guyanese people about their non-involvement in Granger decision to make a unilateral appointment of the Chairman of Gecom. 

Say it, agree with me. I bet you cannot agree to the first sentence of this post!

 

Damn you did well today,responding to most of my post.

There is no doubt the AFC lied,most of the politicians in Guyana can't give a strait answer,they babbles most of the time.

Granger said he will discuss the GECOM lists with Cabinet he will not make a decision on his own,that tells the AFC was in decision making to select the GECOM Chairman.

I was out al, day and got back late (for me). Saw the thread, read and responded to your comments as I read.

are you now saying or implying that the matter was discussed at cabinet meetings and that the AFC was actively involved in the decision? Get your story straight now.

Z
Django posted:
Zed posted:

The bottom line is that the leadership of the AFC lied to the Guyanese people about their non-involvement in Granger decision to make a unilateral appointment of the Chairman of Gecom. 

Say it, agree with me. I bet you cannot agree to the first sentence of this post!

 

Damn you did well today,responding to most of my post.

There is no doubt the AFC lied,most of the politicians in Guyana can't give a strait answer,they babbles most of the time.

Granger said he will discuss the GECOM lists with Cabinet he will not make a decision on his own,that tells the AFC was in decision making to select the GECOM Chairman.

Man, you cannot even repeat what I asked. You are beating around the bush.

 What are you scared about? Are you awaiting the talking points before you respond. 

there is no ambiguity for me. I can state without hesitation - the AFC leadership lied to the Guyanese people when it stated  that it was not actively involved in Granger's decision to unilaterally appoint the chairman of  GECOM.

Z
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Was this your boss lilmohan?

What boss ? don't take orders from no one.

I seriously doubt that a person of your caliber would act without a handler. Your talking points and "opinions" seem to be spoon fed by a mechanism behind the curtain a la the wizard of oz. 

FM
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Was this your boss lilmohan?

What boss ? don't take orders from no one.

I seriously doubt that a person of your caliber would act without a handler. Your talking points and "opinions" seem to be spoon fed by a mechanism behind the curtain a la the wizard of oz. 

What's my caliber may i ask ?

Spit it out.

Django

 Django all over the place. We must believe Zed, he is there and has his pulse on the present day events. Django ONLY posts when it Benefits the PNC, he is the AFC/PNC representative on GNI, his answers are well calculated to spin the PNC propaganda . No one, I mean no one on GNI has the time and effort to to scan sites and selectively post PNC propaganda as do Django, and claims he has a full time job.

K

This internal correspondence between Ramjatttan and Granger could have been avoided, or someone is willing to take the fall for Granger's blunder? How is this new development would play out in court in the pending case against Patterson's appointment? Could this be a strategy in advance if the government loses the case to say that the president was ill-advised and wasn't his intention to appoint Patterson? 

FM
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kp posted:

 Django all over the place. We must believe Zed, he is there and has his pulse on the present day events. Django ONLY posts when it Benefits the PNC, he is the AFC/PNC representative on GNI, his answers are well calculated to spin the PNC propaganda . No one, I mean no one on GNI has the time and effort to to scan sites and selectively post PNC propaganda as do Django, and claims he has a full time job.

Banna,I mentioned umpteen times ,i am self employed and have a lot of times on my hand,stopped chasing the $$.

Modern day technology brings the world closer through social media,following such one can get an idea how population reacts to events.

Django
Prince posted:

This internal correspondence between Ramjatttan and Granger could have been avoided, or someone is willing to take the fall for Granger's blunder? How is this new development would play out in court in the pending case against Patterson's appointment? Could this be a strategy in advance if the government loses the case to say that the president was ill-advised and wasn't his intention to appoint Patterson? 

The AFC were in discussion with Granger,Ramjattan said he new Granger will pick Patterson.

The problem with the AFC and APNU,is they are poor at Public Communications,these fellas need to brush up on the skills how to communicate with the people.

Django
Zed posted:
Django posted:
Zed posted:

The bottom line is that the leadership of the AFC lied to the Guyanese people about their non-involvement in Granger decision to make a unilateral appointment of the Chairman of Gecom. 

Say it, agree with me. I bet you cannot agree to the first sentence of this post!

 

Damn you did well today,responding to most of my post.

There is no doubt the AFC lied,most of the politicians in Guyana can't give a strait answer,they babbles most of the time.

Granger said he will discuss the GECOM lists with Cabinet he will not make a decision on his own,that tells the AFC was in decision making to select the GECOM Chairman.

Man, you cannot even repeat what I asked. You are beating around the bush.

 What are you scared about? Are you awaiting the talking points before you respond. 

there is no ambiguity for me. I can state without hesitation - the AFC leadership lied to the Guyanese people when it stated  that it was not actively involved in Granger's decision to unilaterally appoint the chairman of  GECOM.

Dem chaps worried about Jagdeo, he spiteful enough to jail them once he becomes President again. He might even refuse them pensions. Suh, they side wid evil.

S
Django posted:
kp posted:

 Django all over the place. We must believe Zed, he is there and has his pulse on the present day events. Django ONLY posts when it Benefits the PNC, he is the AFC/PNC representative on GNI, his answers are well calculated to spin the PNC propaganda . No one, I mean no one on GNI has the time and effort to to scan sites and selectively post PNC propaganda as do Django, and claims he has a full time job.

Banna,I mentioned umpteen times ,i am self employed and have a lot of times on my hand,stopped chasing the $$.

Modern day technology brings the world closer through social media,following such one can get an idea how population reacts to events.

Banna, I don't work, wifee don't work ,yet I don't your time to be FULL TIME on GNI, cutting and pasting, editing ,scanning sites. But I do have a LIFE.

K
seignet posted:
 

Dem chaps worried about Jagdeo, he spiteful enough to jail them once he becomes President again. He might even refuse them pensions. Suh, they side wid evil.

Siggy,

I don't think they are afraid of Jagdeo,his presence in the political arena is a blessing in disguise for the coalition government,remember Jagdeo said after his presidency he will retire from politics,he could not believe the PPP will lose elections form 2011,the fella thinks he have all the answers for bring back the PPP to power and is ordained to rule Guyana,in my view he will not be able to achieve such.

Django
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

 Django all over the place. We must believe Zed, he is there and has his pulse on the present day events. Django ONLY posts when it Benefits the PNC, he is the AFC/PNC representative on GNI, his answers are well calculated to spin the PNC propaganda . No one, I mean no one on GNI has the time and effort to to scan sites and selectively post PNC propaganda as do Django, and claims he has a full time job.

Banna,I mentioned umpteen times ,i am self employed and have a lot of times on my hand,stopped chasing the $$.

Modern day technology brings the world closer through social media,following such one can get an idea how population reacts to events.

Banna, I don't work, wifee don't work ,yet I don't your time to be FULL TIME on GNI, cutting and pasting, editing ,scanning sites. But I do have a LIFE.

Banna,what's the problem ? who is stopping you from creating threads.

I try to keep this site active.

By the way what makes you think i don't have a life,i am semi-retired work 35 hrs a week to keep active,i will do that as long as i can,can take off when i want.

To each his own how they want to enjoy their golden years.

Django
Django posted:
Prince posted:

This internal correspondence between Ramjatttan and Granger could have been avoided, or someone is willing to take the fall for Granger's blunder? How is this new development would play out in court in the pending case against Patterson's appointment? Could this be a strategy in advance if the government loses the case to say that the president was ill-advised and wasn't his intention to appoint Patterson? 

The AFC were in discussion with Granger,Ramjattan said he new Granger will pick Patterson.

The problem with the AFC and APNU,is they are poor at Public Communications,these fellas need to brush up on the skills how to communicate with the people.

I don't think they are that stupid, Django. What I believe is that all this secrecy is to maintain joint power by hook or crook in a time when pressure is haunting them. They know the voters are against them in numbers. if APNU was known to be a party that has the people's interest at heart, these underground tactics wouldn't be necessary. Ramjattan got a taste of the sweetness that he can't afford to lose it either. 

FM
Prince posted:
Django posted:
Prince posted:

This internal correspondence between Ramjatttan and Granger could have been avoided, or someone is willing to take the fall for Granger's blunder? How is this new development would play out in court in the pending case against Patterson's appointment? Could this be a strategy in advance if the government loses the case to say that the president was ill-advised and wasn't his intention to appoint Patterson? 

The AFC were in discussion with Granger,Ramjattan said he new Granger will pick Patterson.

The problem with the AFC and APNU,is they are poor at Public Communications,these fellas need to brush up on the skills how to communicate with the people.

I don't think they are that stupid, Django. What I believe is that all this secrecy is to maintain joint power by hook or crook in a time when pressure is haunting them. They know the voters are against them in numbers. if APNU was known to be a party that has the people's interest at heart, these underground tactics wouldn't be necessary. Ramjattan got a taste of the sweetness that he can't afford to lose it either. 

Support is still close for PPP and APNU/AFC,some folks think if all the Indians go back to the PPP,the coalition is done,my suggestion they need to dig deeper,apart from the GECOM debacle which i hope will be settled,look at the strategy of the Coalition gov't to garner support from the hinterland and other areas,2020 will be another close race.

Django
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Django posted:
Prince posted:
Django posted:
Prince posted:

This internal correspondence between Ramjatttan and Granger could have been avoided, or someone is willing to take the fall for Granger's blunder? How is this new development would play out in court in the pending case against Patterson's appointment? Could this be a strategy in advance if the government loses the case to say that the president was ill-advised and wasn't his intention to appoint Patterson? 

The AFC were in discussion with Granger,Ramjattan said he new Granger will pick Patterson.

The problem with the AFC and APNU,is they are poor at Public Communications,these fellas need to brush up on the skills how to communicate with the people.

I don't think they are that stupid, Django. What I believe is that all this secrecy is to maintain joint power by hook or crook in a time when pressure is haunting them. They know the voters are against them in numbers. if APNU was known to be a party that has the people's interest at heart, these underground tactics wouldn't be necessary. Ramjattan got a taste of the sweetness that he can't afford to lose it either. 

Support is still close for PPP and APNU/AFC,some folks think if all the Indians go back to the PPP,the coalition is done,my suggestion they need to dig deeper,apart from the GECOM debacle which i hope will be settled,look at the strategy of the Coalition gov't to garner support from the hinterland and other areas,2020 will be another close race.

That's true, Granger is working tirelessly in the interior because he can no longer depend on the African votes only, and the Indians that Moses supposedly brought over to APNU are going back to PPP. Interesting times ahead as DG would say.  

FM

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