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Nandlall should resign or be removed – Bar Association, women lawyers

Posted By Stabroek editor On October 31, 2014 @ 9:18 am In Local News |

 

Attorney General Anil Nandlall should resign or be removed over the statements he made in a conversation with a Kaieteur News (KN) reporter, the Guyana Bar Association (GBA) and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers (GAWL) said in a joint statement this morning.

 

The joint statement is the most damning of all the calls thus far for Nandlall to go over an explosive 19-minute call on Saturday to KN reporter Leonard Gildarie which was recorded. In their joint  statement the GBA and the GAWL said “As leader of the Bar, the Attorney General mindful of the honour, dignity and integrity of his office should resign immediately. If he does not resign he should be removed. Any other result would be an endorsement of the Attorney-General’s conduct and an admission by the Executive that the highest moral and legal standards are not applicable to the State.”

 

A series of disturbing revelations in the conversation were adverted to by the joint statement, including Nandlall’s apparent acknowledging that the use of deadly violence against the media was acceptable. Equally troubling the statement said was the suggestion that President Donald Ramotar was said to have participated in conversations with a defendant (Bhena Lall)  in an ongoing criminal matter in return for less critical reporting by her co-defendant (KN proprietor Glenn Lall).

 

Also equally disturbing the joint statement said was the objectification in the conversation of an unidentified female reporter by Nandlall.

Nandlall has been silent in recent days except for saying that the conversation was a private one with a friend that was illegally recorded and that the conversation was manipulated and twisted to sound like a completely different dialogue.

 

The full GBA/GAWL statement follows:

Statement by the Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers on the Attorney-General’s recorded conversation

The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers wish to express their concern their consternation at the recorded conversation between the Attorney-General and a member of the media. Everything done and said by the Attorney-General since the disclosure of the conversation invites us to draw every and all reasonable inferences therefrom. The statements made by the Attorney-General point to serious legal and moral infractions on his part having regard to his standing as one of the highest legal officers in our country. In the recording the Honorable Attorney-General offered in vulgar and obscene language, knowledge of actual and planned illegal activities. Even in private conversation the comments are deeply troubling and inappropriate and their candid nature, unbridled by the conventions of public discourse, calls his character and professionalism into question.

 

We are most concerned that the Attorney-General appeared to be acknowledging that the use of deadly violence against the media was an acceptable reaction to frustration where public officials and other citizens are offended by what is reported about them. He also referred to making restitution of funds used by him for some purpose which he did not want the press to report about. The President of Guyana is said to have participated in conversations with a defendant in extant criminal prosecution to have same discontinued in return for less critical reporting by her co-defendant. Equally disturbing is his persistent objectification of the unidentified woman, which conduct flies in the face of the Government’s obligations and commitments regarding respect for women.

 

Freedom of the press and freedom of speech are essential to the rule of law and political democracy. These freedoms result frequently in the publication of true information which may be offensive or embarrassing to some persons. But the Attorney-General needs no lecture on such matters. His Government is well acquainted with the perils of a society where the media must be “well-behaved” or otherwise risk being killed or intimidated.

 

Public officials are given wide powers and great responsibility to make thousands of important decisions many of which never see the light of day. We expect in return for the privilege of office, that they demonstrate good character and judgment. Where they demonstrably fail to do so either by public action or by private conduct which bears on their fitness for office, as the Attorney-General has done, such public officials should be removed from office.

 

As leader of the Bar, the Attorney General mindful of the honour, dignity and integrity of his office should resign immediately. If he does not resign he should be removed. Any other result would be an endorsement of the Attorney-General’s conduct and an admission by the Executive that the highest moral and legal standards are not applicable to the State.

 

31st October 2014

For further information please contact Ronald Burch-Smith, Christopher Ram or Simone Morris-Ramlall

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Originally Posted by Django:

The pressure is on will the president coform ?????

Unfortunately, the President not tekking pressure. He already sided with Nandalall. So, I say Nandalall must go and Ramotar must go too.

FM

The calls from more women organizations, religious organizations and Transparency international will start to mount in the coming days and weeks.

 

Nandalall has no moral or other ground to stand on his office will never be respected and he is disrespecting the people who work for him.

 

It is time for him to resign.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Django:

The pressure is on will the president conform ?????

Unfortunately, the President not tekking pressure. He already sided with Nandalall. So, I say Nandalall must go and Ramotar must go too.

Gil.. Ramotar is not a strong leader,he should ask

the AG to step down and have an investigation.

Freddy pen his opinion in KN a good read.

 

Django

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

The Govt will spare him jail time. But he will need to adjust his attitude to stay out. He does not understand the responsibilities of an Editor. He is ill equipped for the position.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

The Govt will spare him jail time. But he will need to adjust his attitude to stay out. He does not understand the responsibilities of an Editor. He is ill equipped for the position.

And what you good for?

FM
Originally Posted by JB:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

The Govt will spare him jail time. But he will need to adjust his attitude to stay out. He does not understand the responsibilities of an Editor. He is ill equipped for the position.

And what you good for?

Silly question, you are in the best position to tell the boys how good I am.

Nehru

Statement by the Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers on the Attorney-General’s recorded conversation

The Guyana Bar Association and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers wish to express their concern their consternation at the recorded conversation between the Attorney-General and a member of the media. Everything done and said by the Attorney-General since the disclosure of the conversation invites us to draw every and all reasonable inferences therefrom. The statements made by the Attorney-General point to serious legal and moral infractions on his part having regard to his standing as one of the highest legal officers in our country. In the recording the Honorable Attorney-General offered in vulgar and obscene language, knowledge of actual and planned illegal activities. Even in private conversation the comments are deeply troubling and inappropriate and their candid nature, unbridled by the conventions of public discourse, calls his character and professionalism into question.

We are most concerned that the Attorney-General appeared to be acknowledging that the use of deadly violence against the media was an acceptable reaction to frustration where public officials and other citizens are offended by what is reported about them. He also referred to making restitution of funds used by him for some purpose which he did not want the press to report about. The President of Guyana is said to have participated in conversations with a defendant in extant criminal prosecution to have same discontinued in return for less critical reporting by her co-defendant. Equally disturbing is his persistent objectification of the unidentified woman, which conduct flies in the face of the Government’s obligations and commitments regarding respect for women.

Freedom of the press and freedom of speech are essential to the rule of law and political democracy. These freedoms result frequently in the publication of true information which may be offensive or embarrassing to some persons. But the Attorney-General needs no lecture on such matters. His Government is well acquainted with the perils of a society where the media must be “well-behaved” or otherwise risk being killed or intimidated.

Public officials are given wide powers and great responsibility to make thousands of important decisions many of which never see the light of day. We expect in return for the privilege of office, that they demonstrate good character and judgment. Where they demonstrably fail to do so either by public action or by private conduct which bears on their fitness for office, as the Attorney-General has done, such public officials should be removed from office.

As leader of the Bar, the Attorney General mindful of the honour, dignity and integrity of his office should resign immediately. If he does not resign he should be removed. Any other result would be an endorsement of the Attorney-General’s conduct and an admission by the Executive that the highest moral and legal standards are not applicable to the State.

31st October 2014

For further information please contact Ronald Burch-Smith, Christopher Ram or Simone Morris-Ramlall

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

The Govt will spare him jail time. But he will need to adjust his attitude to stay out. He does not understand the responsibilities of an Editor. He is ill equipped for the position.

Glenn Lall is not Editor. He is owner-publisher.

Adam Harris is the Editor.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

The Govt will spare him jail time. But he will need to adjust his attitude to stay out. He does not understand the responsibilities of an Editor. He is ill equipped for the position.

Glenn Lall is not Editor. He is owner-publisher.

Adam Harris is the Editor.

Still over his head.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Thiefin tax payers money is not a private matter? You have to be a complete ass to make such an assertion.

OK JACKASS.  Bray DANKEY BRAY!!!!

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Thiefin tax payers money is not a private matter? You have to be a complete ass to make such an assertion.

OK JACKASS.  Bray DANKEY BRAY!!!!

SO GO AHEAD SHITHEAD, WHAT IS STOPPING YOU??????

Nehru
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

The Govt will spare him jail time. But he will need to adjust his attitude to stay out. He does not understand the responsibilities of an Editor. He is ill equipped for the position.

Glenn Lall is not Editor. He is owner-publisher.

Adam Harris is the Editor.

Adam Harris is a strong critic of the present Govt

if i am correct he used to be editor of

New Nation and then Chronicle during

PNC rule.

Django
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Thiefin tax payers money is not a private matter? You have to be a complete ass to make such an assertion.

OK JACKASS.  Bray DANKEY BRAY!!!!

SO GO AHEAD SHITHEAD, WHAT IS STOPPING YOU??????

Yawn.........

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

 

You both should stop throwing up and read:

 

"As leader of the Bar, the Attorney General mindful of the honour, dignity and integrity of his office should resign immediately. If he does not resign he should be removed. Any other result would be an endorsement of the Attorney-General’s conduct and an admission by the Executive that the highest moral and legal standards are not applicable to the State."

 

 

 

This comes from the Guyana Bar Association, but as we all know we do have posters here who know wayyyyy da fk more than everyone else.

The things that people do when cornered is absolutely amazing.

One being having the ability to shit through ones mouth.

cain

So far we've got

 

IPI urges government to offer international community reassurances over journalist safety

VIENNA Oct 31, 2014 – The International Press Institute (IPI) today expressed deep concern over a recorded phone call in which a person identified as the attorney general of Guyana appeared to suggest that staff members of the daily Kaieteur News risked deadly reprisal if the paper continued its critical reporting.

 

GHRA condemns's Ramotar's incompetence.

 

Ramotar’s support for Nandlall promotes Gov’t secrecy and lack of transparency – GHRA

October 31, 2014 | By KNews | Filed Under News 

The following is the full text of a statement from the Executive Committee of the Guyana Human Rights Association.
“The tirade of threats, coarse language, suggestions of misuse of public funds and anti-women comments by Attorney-General and Minister of Legal Affairs, Anil Nandlall, during a recent telephone call to a Kaieteur News reporter, has generated public astonishment and calls for his resignation.

 http://www.freemedia.at/newssv...e-for-newspaper.html

 

Nandlall must Go! - Guyana Bar Association/Guyana Assn. of Women Lawyers

 

Nandlall should resign or be removed – Bar Association, women lawyers

Posted By Stabroek editor On October 31, 2014 @ 9:18 am In Local News |

 

Attorney General Anil Nandlall should resign or be removed over the statements he made in a conversation with a Kaieteur News (KN) reporter, the Guyana Bar Association (GBA) and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers (GAWL) said in a joint statement this morning.

cain
Originally Posted by cain:

So far we've got

 

IPI urges government to offer international community reassurances over journalist safety

VIENNA Oct 31, 2014 – The International Press Institute (IPI) today expressed deep concern over a recorded phone call in which a person identified as the attorney general of Guyana appeared to suggest that staff members of the daily Kaieteur News risked deadly reprisal if the paper continued its critical reporting.

 

GHRA condemns's Ramotar's incompetence.

 

Ramotar’s support for Nandlall promotes Gov’t secrecy and lack of transparency – GHRA

October 31, 2014 | By KNews | Filed Under News 

The following is the full text of a statement from the Executive Committee of the Guyana Human Rights Association.
“The tirade of threats, coarse language, suggestions of misuse of public funds and anti-women comments by Attorney-General and Minister of Legal Affairs, Anil Nandlall, during a recent telephone call to a Kaieteur News reporter, has generated public astonishment and calls for his resignation.

 http://www.freemedia.at/newssv...e-for-newspaper.html

 

Nandlall must Go! - Guyana Bar Association/Guyana Assn. of Women Lawyers

 

Nandlall should resign or be removed – Bar Association, women lawyers

Posted By Stabroek editor On October 31, 2014 @ 9:18 am In Local News |

 

Attorney General Anil Nandlall should resign or be removed over the statements he made in a conversation with a Kaieteur News (KN) reporter, the Guyana Bar Association (GBA) and the Guyana Association of Women Lawyers (GAWL) said in a joint statement this morning.

The law is clear that any recording or tapping of citizens’ private communication must be authorised by the Chief-of-Staff of the army, the Commissioner of Police and the Commissioner General of the Guyana Revenue Authority.

However, these officers would first have to apply to a Judge for a 90-day warrant to intercept communication, which will be illegal otherwise. According to the law, anyone found guilty of illegal wiretapping would be liable to a fine of $5 million and a jail term not exceeding three years.

A Judge, before granting the warrant, the law states must be satisfied that the information obtained would likely assist investigations. There is also a proviso vesting authority in the Minister of Home Affairs in the case of national emergency.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

I dont see any reason to call for his Resignation. He was DUMB to do what he did but it was a personal matter in private with a contact. However, he was illegally recorded.  End of story.

 

* Totally agree with you.

 

* Listen! Nandlall will keep his job but Glenn Lall will likely be headed to the slammer.

 

Rev

The Govt will spare him jail time. But he will need to adjust his attitude to stay out. He does not understand the responsibilities of an Editor. He is ill equipped for the position.

 

Lall needs to hire some professionals to provide coaching on how to deal with success.

 

Lall lights fire on us (PPP) tail all day long and it is a good thing but it becomes a problem when he acts beyond his jurisdiction. 

 

I am of the firm belief that he needs to know when to draw the line.

 

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

 

Bhai

 

Please do not drag the great Dr. King in this matter. Please leave Dr. King and his great legacy alone. He stands beside the Great Mahatma as the greatest souls in our lifetime.

 

Anil erred in judgement and should apologize.

FM
Last edited by Former Member

Anil is a gifted lawyer. He has a brilliant legal mind.  He should be given another chance.  No one knows what his situation was when he made the call.  Him and Glen should take an example from Obama, Crowley and Gates by bringing this matter to a close over a few cold Bud Lights.

Wally
Originally Posted by Wally:

Anil is a gifted lawyer. He has a brilliant legal mind.  He should be given another chance.  No one knows what his situation was when he made the call.  Him and Glen should take an example from Obama, Crowley and Gates by bringing this matter to a close over a few cold Bud Lights.

Anil is drunk with the wine of absolute power of the PPP administration and in that frame of mind made the call. It is typified by its arrogance, its haughtiness, and its complacency of its excesses.

 

I am over five decades on this planet and have never spoken to or of anyone in that filth laced manner.  The casual disrespect for the woman reporter is grating. His uncle is by his accounting a man of homicidal disposition and it is to him he tries to pimp this young woman because simply put, " de man wan f.u.c.k de gal"!

 

There is  no regard for the woman's opinion on the matter because he is certain on introduction he can pull it off. Note, we do not know the woman but indications are she is very pretty, is there on account of her skills and not looks  and those two ugly old goats are deciding her fate!

 

This is not a matter of bud  lights; it is not a matter of the old boys hugging it out. It is about our nation, the  wrong direction it is going in, the corrupt administration of it and the excesses of power of those in authority.

 

Putting an end to it has to begin somewhere. How about where we get a glimpse of it in its most stark expression? By the way, brilliance does not act that way. Pure vile excesses of privileged does. The latter is because the former had no moral grounding to restrain it.

FM

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