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February 10, 2016 Source

Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo has accused the PPP of excluding him while he was a member of the party because he did not conform to what he said was its pro-Hindi and communist ideologies.

Speaking at the opening of the Alliance for Change (AFC) Headquarters two Saturdays ago he reminisced on his experiences while a member of the PPP. After being a longstanding member of the party he parted ways in 2011 and later joined forces with the AFC.

Moses Nagamootoo
Moses Nagamootoo

He told the gathering that the party saw him as the “defaulter’s friend” when he started to defend AFC Leader  Khemraj Ramjattan who had been expelled from the party years earlier.

“The efforts however failed and perhaps history would remember that that failure was to lead and open the door to the success we see not for an individual but for all our people”, he said. He said that the effort to keep Ramjattan in the PPP maybe was doomed to fail because “if he had stayed perhaps he would have been part and parcel of the rot in which I had to endure for a few more years”.

Nagamootoo recalled that after Ramjattan’s expulsion he was constantly being reminded at meetings for taking the similar position, some of which were later taken by Ralph Ramkarran against corruption, calling for the establishment of the Public Procurement Commission, calling for an investigation into death squads and investigations into the PPP leadership. He recalled that these were things which constantly provoked a response “leh we give he de Khemraj treatment”.

Nagamootoo said that after the formation of the AFC he was asked whether he was going that route, nothing that after the expulsion of Ramjattan “nothing was the same”.

He said that many did not know that he suffered “major disqualifications.” Among them was that he never studied in the then Soviet Union and his refusal to be indoctrinated into the Communist party of the Soviet Union. He said that another had to do with the pro-Hindu stance of the PPP.

“It had always been thought that the PPP was some type of pro-Hindu party and when it was discovered that I was a Christian, I suffered disqualification that I lived with for many, many years,” he said.

He spoke of having to fight “an internal racism and living with it and still determined that there was a role I had to play in the interest of the people of Guyana.” According to Nagamootoo in 2011 when he parted ways with the PPP, “it was not so much that I was fed up with the old but because I thought it was about time to join the new and the Alliance for Change was that new force.”

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Nobody chained his ankles and handcuffed him. He was free to leave the PPP anytime he wanted. He fooled himself all the time that he was anointed to be the new emperor. It was ok for him to lick the honey and drink the milk while he was with the PPP. What a neemakharam!!!!!!

FM
baseman posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Nobody chained his ankles and handcuffed him. He was free to leave the PPP anytime he wanted. He fooled himself all the time that he was anointed to be the new emperor. It was ok for him to lick the honey and drink the milk while he was with the PPP. What a neemakharam!!!!!!

I did not really know the guy that much until 2011.  Seeing him since, I can see why he was passed-up in the PPP.  He possesses traits of a traitor!!

"traitor" to who(m)?

think lil

FM
redux posted:
baseman posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Nobody chained his ankles and handcuffed him. He was free to leave the PPP anytime he wanted. He fooled himself all the time that he was anointed to be the new emperor. It was ok for him to lick the honey and drink the milk while he was with the PPP. What a neemakharam!!!!!!

I did not really know the guy that much until 2011.  Seeing him since, I can see why he was passed-up in the PPP.  He possesses traits of a traitor!!

"traitor" to who(m)?

think lil

If Naga was with the PPP and a PNC poster wrote this, you would have had very kinds words for him, right?

FM

When a Neemakaram Crabdaag who sold his soul for a couple of Crayons, Coloring Book and one Butterball sweetie(They were 4 for one Jill) open his ignorant mouth, it is because of his SHAMELESS nature!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
skeldon_man posted:
redux posted:
baseman posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Nobody chained his ankles and handcuffed him. He was free to leave the PPP anytime he wanted. He fooled himself all the time that he was anointed to be the new emperor. It was ok for him to lick the honey and drink the milk while he was with the PPP. What a neemakharam!!!!!!

I did not really know the guy that much until 2011.  Seeing him since, I can see why he was passed-up in the PPP.  He possesses traits of a traitor!!

"traitor" to who(m)?

think lil

If Naga was with the PPP and a PNC poster wrote this, you would have had very kinds words for him, right?

it depends . . . that's why i ask the question

arite?

FM
redux posted:
skeldon_man posted:
redux posted:
baseman posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Nobody chained his ankles and handcuffed him. He was free to leave the PPP anytime he wanted. He fooled himself all the time that he was anointed to be the new emperor. It was ok for him to lick the honey and drink the milk while he was with the PPP. What a neemakharam!!!!!!

I did not really know the guy that much until 2011.  Seeing him since, I can see why he was passed-up in the PPP.  He possesses traits of a traitor!!

"traitor" to who(m)?

think lil

If Naga was with the PPP and a PNC poster wrote this, you would have had very kinds words for him, right?

it depends . . . that's why i ask the question

arite?

???

FM
Nehru posted:
comrade posted:
Nehru posted:

THis SHAMELESS DAAG Uncle Tom is nothing but a BIG lump of FILTH!!!!!!!!!!

Who are you really referring to ?  Jagdeo , Rohee or Ramouthar ?

I dont educate dunces, let your Pea brain guide you.

I asked a simple question . Your description fits anyone of the three I mentioned . I wouldn't call you a pea brain as it would be giving you an intellectual status way above your comprehension . 

comrade
comrade posted:
Nehru posted:
comrade posted:
Nehru posted:

THis SHAMELESS DAAG Uncle Tom is nothing but a BIG lump of FILTH!!!!!!!!!!

Who are you really referring to ?  Jagdeo , Rohee or Ramouthar ?

I dont educate dunces, let your Pea brain guide you.

I asked a simple question . Your description fits anyone of the three I mentioned . I wouldn't call you a pea brain as it would be giving you an intellectual status way above your comprehension . 

Your lack of basic understanding has been noted!!!

Nehru

Prime Minister Nagamootoo should apologize to Hindus. When he was part of the PPP I am certain there were more atheists + Christians in Central Committee and Exco than Hindus, which is what he meant to say (not Hindi). This kind of view is dangerous.

FM

I have to agree with TK.. Moses was one of those hardline Marxist who subscribed to dialectical materialism like the comrade on GNI who is battling for him. They are using religion to justify what they've done to the struggles and legacies of Dr. Jagan. This is nothing short of demagoguery.

Billy Ram Balgobin

Lawyers ask themselves that if someone is lying about something, what next is that person lying about. Moses lied about so many things, so why expect that he is not lying now? How quickly he like all politicians, forget the past.

Z
TK posted:

Prime Minister Nagamootoo should apologize to Hindus. When he was part of the PPP I am certain there were more atheists + Christians in Central Committee and Exco than Hindus, which is what he meant to say (not Hindi). This kind of view is dangerous.

i'm not sure how you 'count' who is Christian, Hindu or Muslim or atheist in a doctrinaire Marxist-Leninist leadership corps

religion of members, for the most part, would be nominal

FM
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yuji22 posted:

Moses is losing his marbles. He is now attacking Hindus.

This is a sign of a man who is out of touch with reality.

Yuji bahi, Moses will do anything to be in the news. He has become redundant and locked up in a dark room chained to an iron bed. When he is unchained for a day or so, he "lays on his kitchen floor and cries himself to sleep for 4 hours". 

FM
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redux posted:
TK posted:

Prime Minister Nagamootoo should apologize to Hindus. When he was part of the PPP I am certain there were more atheists + Christians in Central Committee and Exco than Hindus, which is what he meant to say (not Hindi). This kind of view is dangerous.

i'm not sure how you 'count' who is Christian, Hindu or Muslim or atheist in a doctrinaire Marxist-Leninist leadership corps

religion of members, for the most part, would be nominal

There have always been Christians, Muslims, Hindus and atheists in PPP leadership who are also Marxist-Leninist. Strange, but true. I am saying there are fewer Hindu Marxist-Leninists in PPP leadership that people realize. Hindus get a lot of blame for problems in Guyana. Lots of racist psychological projections by others are thrown to the Hindus. The backward, philistine and incompetent leadership of PPP often get thrown on the Hindus.

FM
Nehru posted:

When dat lying Daag open his mouth the next time, the Guyanese people should spit on him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For you to constantly say something as nasty as that, show those actions as a family trait.

cain
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He spoke of having to fight “an internal racism and living with it and still determined that there was a role I had to play in the interest of the people of Guyana.”  ******           What really Naga is saying, is that the Blacks in the PPP was against him,or he was not considered as an Indian when in the PPP , I am a bit confused, what race is Naga.          

K
TK posted:
redux posted:
TK posted:

Prime Minister Nagamootoo should apologize to Hindus. When he was part of the PPP I am certain there were more atheists + Christians in Central Committee and Exco than Hindus, which is what he meant to say (not Hindi). This kind of view is dangerous.

i'm not sure how you 'count' who is Christian, Hindu or Muslim or atheist in a doctrinaire Marxist-Leninist leadership corps

religion of members, for the most part, would be nominal

There have always been Christians, Muslims, Hindus and atheists in PPP leadership who are also Marxist-Leninist. Strange, but true. I am saying there are fewer Hindu Marxist-Leninists in PPP leadership that people realize. Hindus get a lot of blame for problems in Guyana. Lots of racist psychological projections by others are thrown to the Hindus. The backward, philistine and incompetent leadership of PPP often get thrown on the Hindus.

i do not disagree with the thrust of your post . . . i yield to no one in underlining that Guyana has an Indian-African problem . . . those that place this at the feet of Hinduism are engaging in scampman business

however, i believe that Moses' use of the phrase ". . . discovered that i was a Christian" points the way to an understanding of the post-ideological PPP where its leadership abandoned the aspirational working people's romanticism of pre-1992 Cheddi Jagan and embraced its role as the vanguard Indian party in the Guyana political duality

as the vanguard Indian party in a nation where the overwhelming majority of Indians are Hindu, it should come as no surprise that the PPP leadership cohort skews towards that faith

a Moses Nagamootoo as a Christian of faith in the age of Hindutva is vulnerable in ways that an atheist Cheddi Jagan never could be. Cheddi, as founder-leader, embraced no other faith, and the Hindu people of Guyana regarded him as their own . . . he would not have had a prayer against a Balram Singh Rai if he carried the religious profile of a Luckhoo

i will submit that Hindutva has little to no currency among the Hindu people in Guyana; but when tribal battles are fought at the party leadership level, splintering occurs . . . ideologues and opportunists rise . . . things get complicated

on a more basic level, this is a problem also for the PNC

indeed, with the rise of political Islam, i don't see the PPP having a religious Muslim (forget African) leading the party in my lifetime

FM
comrade posted:

Moses took a stand and declared himself a Christian . Can someone say what are the religious persuasions of Jagdeo, Rohee and Ramouthar ?

Comrade, Moses explained himself too often without reasons. He will run into trouble if he speak too much of what he is or isn't. However, Moses is the only man that denied so much of himself since the AFC coalesce with the PNC. Different story at different times...but the truth is yet to be heard. 

FM

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