Django posted:Imran,
I should start another thread why Indians was shut out for the Police Dept,will have to dig up some more info,one of the requirement was height 5 ft 8 inches,chest measurement, etc,how many Indians have that height??
What yo mean etc ... you have to measure the Middle foot also
Imran posted:Django posted:Imran,
I should start another thread why Indians was shut out for the Police Dept,will have to dig up some more info,one of the requirement was height 5 ft 8 inches,chest measurement, etc,how many Indians have that height??
What yo mean etc ... you have to measure the Middle foot also
Not all coolie shart. I know some tall banas. One ah dem from Essequibo we used to call Kid. Dat chap used to stoop suh he head won't hit the top of the doorway. Ole man had some indo friends in police force too.
Django posted:Imran,
I should start another thread why Indians was shut out for the Police Dept,will have to dig up some more info,one of the requirement was height 5 ft 8 inches,chest measurement, etc,how many Indians have that height??
Our own Amral's mom seemed small in stature and yet she made it in the GPF. Perhaps most Indians and other races were not into joining the forces, they preffered to carry on their family's traditition or other avenues.
Django posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Django's testimony to counter charges of discrimination against the PNC regime is not unusual. The PNC wasted no time in getting Indos to say that there was no rigged elections nor discrimination against Indians in Guyana. All governments do this. The White government of South Africa boasted of black millionaires and responsible black leaders. Pakistan staged demonstrations against India using Pakinstani Hindus to discredit any charge of religious intolerance in the Islamic State. By the way, Pakistan's first Justice minister was a Hindu who returned to India in the sixties.
Django's BS cannot fool us. Let him give his definition of a second class citizen and we will take it from there.
I have stated never felt like a "Second Class Citizen",maybe because i worked in the Private Sector,individuals who worked in the Public Sector may have different experiences,I am aware there was discrimination in the Sugar Industry where YSM boys got top jobs with no experience.There was a square peg Factory Manager at Uitvlugt Estate.
Then why do you stated so boldly that it's a myth that Indians were second class citizens under the PNC?
Do you think Blacks were second class citizens under the previous government?
GTAngler posted:Not all coolie shart. I know some tall banas. One ah dem from Essequibo we used to call Kid. Dat chap used to stoop suh he head won't hit the top of the doorway. Ole man had some indo friends in police force too.
Not much tall Indos,one of my good Indo friend was CID,he was 6 ft and big fella,sad he passed away in NY City,heart attack at young age.
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Django posted:Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Django's testimony to counter charges of discrimination against the PNC regime is not unusual. The PNC wasted no time in getting Indos to say that there was no rigged elections nor discrimination against Indians in Guyana. All governments do this. The White government of South Africa boasted of black millionaires and responsible black leaders. Pakistan staged demonstrations against India using Pakinstani Hindus to discredit any charge of religious intolerance in the Islamic State. By the way, Pakistan's first Justice minister was a Hindu who returned to India in the sixties.
Django's BS cannot fool us. Let him give his definition of a second class citizen and we will take it from there.
I have stated never felt like a "Second Class Citizen",maybe because i worked in the Private Sector,individuals who worked in the Public Sector may have different experiences,I am aware there was discrimination in the Sugar Industry where YSM boys got top jobs with no experience.There was a square peg Factory Manager at Uitvlugt Estate.
Then why do you stated so boldly that it's a myth that Indians were second class citizens under the PNC?
Do you think Blacks were second class citizens under the previous government?
Some indo folks thinks we were Second Class.
Nah bhai,we all have the same rights.
Where is my Frenno Gilly ?? you peep and gone, you gat nothing to add here bhai.
Hope you don't vex with me because of the name calling,I done with that bad habit,me wring me ease.
Imran posted:
Son Chapman and don't reveal your racist nonsense that the PYO wasn't to blame for that one.
BOTH sides engaged in brutality.
Prashad posted:at I am a racist for wanting the peaceful creation of a nation
Why don't you focus on your fear of your wife's temper instead. You have never indicated that she is in support of a nation where she would be a second class person, acceptable only at the discretion of others.
No doubt she knows all about Israel and about the Indo Pak fiasco, so knows fully well that a nation established for one religion/ethnicity will never treat others as equals.
Low blow man. Can we keep this to the people actually involved?
Imran posted:
I suggest that you cease whining about the raping part. That was revealed to be a lie revealing the huge sexual inadequacies that certain ageing Indian man have. That did NOT happen.
Notable that those who frequently whine about black men raping Indos, NEVER speak about the fact that most Indo rape victims are likely to have been raped by other Indians.
Discuss the fact that most rapes in Guyana are committed by men who are known to the victim, suggesting that most Indo females are raped by Indo men.
skeldon_man posted:Prash, I tell you what brother. I am with you with your sovereign nation. Only coolies will be allowed. We will ask India to adopt us as a state, just like Puerto Rico. No blacks or douglas allowed. Any niggro
Funny thing about this. Indians from India see you all as cultural douglas and some might even refer to you as "niggro".
And of course they see you as descended from the poorest people from the poorest part of India. Not sure that the equity that you seek you will get.
Django posted:skeldon_man posted:Prash, I tell you what brother. I am with you with your sovereign nation. Only coolies will be allowed. We will ask India to adopt us as a state, just like Puerto Rico. No blacks or douglas allowed. Any niggro caught in the country will be castrated and enslaved for life. When they are too old to work, we will build moco moco rafts and set them sailing at the mouth of the Berbice river. No Chinese, Putagees etc.Only dalits.
Oh skites Skelly,
that was what the early East Indians wanted,wondering if my Great Grandfather had that same thought.
And this desire on the part of te BGEIA is what jump started the growing ethnic divide. Already alarmed at being tossed aside as more and more Indian indentures arrived in Guyana the black/mixed middle classes became extremely alarmed when some wanted BG to be annexed to India, or to turn BG into some remote Indian "colony".
Amazing. Your own commit the same crimes against you so shut up. May we have some numbers and instances to support your "Are likely to have been" and "suggesting that" premise?
VVP posted:.All top positions in the government, army and police were African dominated except for token Indians. What else would it take to make you a second class citizen when you cannot get to the highest level you are capable of?
Hoyte tried to change things but the Burnham structure was hard to break.
So using your criteria blacks were second class under the PPP. Aside from the army virtually all of the top slots were occupied by Indians and even Luncheon admitted this when he was asked about this by Nigel Hughes as part of the Jagdeo vs. Kissoon law suit.
And don't pretend that the Afro leadership of the GDF/GPF were a sign of Indo weakness either as these were carefully selected by Jagdeo. Indians refused to join those entities even when Jagan begged them to do after after 1992. So clearly few were in the pipeline to occupy leadership roles.
Imran posted:In 2001 , Indians were rape and strip of their clothing on Regent St by blacks in broad day light. Indians businesses were set on fire.
Can you or the author substantiate this story? I was on Regent Street close to Acme on the same date and time and saw no such incident.
GTAngler posted:Amazing. Your own commit the same crimes against you so shut up.
You scream that only blacks attacked Indians in the 60s. So I suggest that you follow your own advice. I see that I was right to christen you a member of the Indo KKK.
GTAngler posted:Low blow man. Can we keep this to the people actually involved?
Involved in what. The hypocrisy of a man who married a non Indian and then rages daily on the need for an Indo only nation.
GTAngler posted:Amazing. Your own commit the same crimes against you so shut up. May we have some numbers and instances to support your "Are likely to have been" and "suggesting that" premise?
Antabanta is asking for a source for that daylight rape on Regent St where scores of Indian women were being raped and these acts cheered by crowds of blacks. This was peddled by Ravi Dev who is a known racist who claims that blacks have done nothing for Guyana, and in fact scoffs when people say that he was wrong. A man who damns blacks as a savage lot.
THAT story has been long discredited. But no doubt you support Ravi Dev so nothing new from you here.
Now it is a known fact that most raped victims are raped by men who they know. Given this fact and the reality that Guyana is an ethnically polarized nation it is likely that most Indian rape victims are in fact raped by Indian men. It is up to YOU to suggest otherwise.
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