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Imran posted:

I was at Thrifty Variety Store , when a female was rescued by SN. Singh store owner , she came from King St . The same direction of Acme .. surprised you miss that. She had her panties on and a bunch of Black tugs were after her . 

Say what..she had her panties on? What time was this chap? Musta been before six pm.

So you sayin had she removed said panties..the thugs woulda lef she alone?

cain
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Imran posted:

You have to choose your fight. A Indian will have a disagreement with a Blackman and the crowd will grow...  99% of blacks have no idea what the issue was , but would be involved to defend their breathern and behave like they were there from the starting. 

I live in Plaisance for 10 years, never had a problem...  

They are a bully type and quick to cry racialism . They believed they are entitled to the world... bread and butter MUST be there for them . 

Too many black  kids are born out of wedlock , no father support and guidance for the kids ... this is there problem. 

Caribny , this video is for you... you have a problem, take it up with the Pastor. 

Imran where did you find that pastor from?  That man needs to spend some time reading Rodney.

Prashad
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Imran posted:

You have to choose your fight. A Indian will have a disagreement with a Blackman and the crowd will grow...  99% of blacks have no idea what the issue was , but would be involved to defend their breathern and behave like they were there from the starting. 

I live in Plaisance for 10 years, never had a problem...  

They are a bully type and quick to cry racialism . They believed they are entitled to the world... bread and butter MUST be there for them

Too many black  kids are born out of wedlock , no father support and guidance for the kids ... this is there problem. 

 

 

This is the man Imran who called me an indian racist who hates Africans.               

Prashad
Drugb posted:

This bai djangy trying to rewrite history. In my time, a black could smack an indian with impunity. They even jump ahead of you in the guylines and nothing you could say or do because they get their pnc goons to manners you. 

With a little investigation you haven't spent a lot of time in the homeland,your adult life was not many years,I had two stints in Georgetown,1970 to 1973 was living at Durban and Smith St,went back to my home town in the country,came back to work form 1976 to 1985 in Robb Street,travelled daily from home to GT,was never bullied by any blacks,I have earned respect from some in a neighboring village after I stood up to few,who thinks this Coolie is a walkover,my dougla friend who observed what was taking place came out and said any touches me will also have to face him.I am a fear less person,ganging up don't intimidate.

Django
ba$eman posted:
Django posted:

I lived during the PNC rule in Guyana,family,friends and myself never considered our selves as "Second Class Citizens".I can't recall being treated that way we were free to go any where,no invasion of our villages by PNC supporters.Indians were allowed to run their businesses.Burnham was surrounded by Indians.The Region i reside in there were two Indian Regional Chairman.Indians held top positions at the Regional Offices,Indian Headmasters,teachers..etc..

I can recall in the early 70's was living in Georgetown would walk from Plaza Cinema to Durban and Smith St,where i reside,passing Metropole Cinema 12 in the night and no one bothered me.

I can go..on..and..on

What's your story???

Django, you are a "holocaust" denier.  But you may have a point, Indians were not 2nd class citizens, but 7th class among the six races and the dougla.  How tight do you hold your nose when you write such swill?

You could go on and on and you moved onto the USA!

Well Base dunno what kind of "holocaust" you are talking about,maybe East Indians from Guyana,if that is so i will present two pieces of information for you to look at,click on link and see attachment.

By the way will appreciate a response after reviewing.



https://books.google.com/books...20guyana&f=false

 

 

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seignet posted:
ba$eman posted:
Django posted:

I lived during the PNC rule in Guyana,family,friends and myself never considered our selves as "Second Class Citizens".I can't recall being treated that way we were free to go any where,no invasion of our villages by PNC supporters.Indians were allowed to run their businesses.Burnham was surrounded by Indians.The Region i reside in there were two Indian Regional Chairman.Indians held top positions at the Regional Offices,Indian Headmasters,teachers..etc..

I can recall in the early 70's was living in Georgetown would walk from Plaza Cinema to Durban and Smith St,where i reside,passing Metropole Cinema 12 in the night and no one bothered me.

I can go..on..and..on

What's your story???

Django, you are a "holocaust" denier.  But you may have a point, Indians were not 2nd class citizens, but 7th class among the six races and the dougla.  How tight do you hold your nose when you write such swill?

You could go on and on and you moved onto the USA!

D2 thinks he is great. I suppose if one abuses Indians, then D2 finds redeeming qualities in them.

Common sense and decency does not apply to Guyana. One has to choose sides. 

Oye Siggy,

me thinks you this post is on wrong thread.

Django

Django's level of intelligence amazes me.

First, it is a personal feeling that the individual has. How can he hope to prove it wrong in the absence of that individual saying it doesn't exist in his/her  consciousness. 

Second. It is also a collective feeling. Collectively, Indo-Guyanese have innumerable anecdotal evidence to justify the statement that they felt and were second class citizens during the PNC/Burnham dictatorship. Many stories recounted here. And many others had the same experiences. I have my own experiences which I will not share because I have moved on and do not want to get into back and forth. Do not have the time. 

Third, through acts of commission and omission, the PNC/Burnham dictatorship encouraged acts of discrimination, violence, victimization, disenfranchment against Indo-Guyanese collectively and individually. I vividly remember Burnham giving a speech in one of his support areas to the effect that they searched for the gold, look who wears it and he does not have to tell them what to do to get it back. 

If one looks  there might be some  data to indicate what happened. However, much if the data was generated by the government and their agencies so were suspect. Who has the courage to tell the dictator that he was wearing no clothes?

There were acts of commission by a variety of actors. First, by  the government through its many departments. Second, The PNC as a party which became synonomous with the government and the state. Third, as the PNC/Burnham dictatorship gained control over the commanding heights of the economy, through these agencies. Fourth, through the military -the GDF which became an arm of the PNC and which committed overt and covert acts of violence and intimidation. Fifth,  the Guyana Police Force which also became an arm of the PNC. Sixth, The quasi-military National Service. Seventh, the agencies that the PNC/Burnham dictatorship set up such as the KSI, as it solidified the dictatorship. Seventh, various groups which it co-opted and they became shells to create a facade of representation. Eight, the international community, which for a long time closed their eyes and mouths to what was happening in Guyana. Nine, many Indian-Guyanese who drank the soup and helped to create a facade of inclusiveness. Tenth, as my brother keeps reminding me, the Indian-guyanese themselves because many were timid, unwilling, , intimidated, scared  to take action to protect their rights, "biah, a wah abe go du?" attitude.

 

 

Z

ZED,

Basically some of the East Indians who claimed to be "Second Class Citizens" in their country of birth,was personal feeling and not documented,can you extrapolate why that amount felt that way,also i would very much appreciate if you can give some clarity to my level of "intelligence" that amazes you,I would accept it with no animosity from unknown in cyber world.

"Dhobis" have right to ask questions in my "view" they are equal to every other person in the human race,the medium to express one's opinion have changed,voices of the people are heard more frequently ,the highly intellectuals are more challenged in modern day to give answers.

The last paragraph in your post there is nothing that is stated that I am not aware of,that is how "Dictators" stay in power.

 

Django
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Prashad posted:
 
Imran posted:

You have to choose your fight. A Indian will have a disagreement with a Blackman and the crowd will grow...  99% of blacks have no idea what the issue was , but would be involved to defend their breathern and behave like they were there from the starting. 

I live in Plaisance for 10 years, never had a problem...  

They are a bully type and quick to cry racialism . They believed they are entitled to the world... bread and butter MUST be there for them

Too many black  kids are born out of wedlock , no father support and guidance for the kids ... this is there problem. 

 

 

This is the man Imran who called me an indian racist who hates Africans.               

Prashad , we need to move forward. I have so much near death  experiences, and I have stated a few on this forum. 

I did not call you an Indian racist, and if I came over that way .. my apologies bro . 

In our businesses ( Guyana) blacks do our banking. You take care of people they will watch out for you. 

FM
Zed posted:

Django's level of intelligence amazes me.

First, it is a personal feeling that the individual has. How can he hope to prove it wrong in the absence of that individual saying it doesn't exist in his/her  consciousness. 

Second. It is also a collective feeling. Collectively, Indo-Guyanese have innumerable anecdotal evidence to justify the statement that they felt and were second class citizens during the PNC/Burnham dictatorship. Many stories recounted here. And many others had the same experiences. I have my own experiences which I will not share because I have moved on and do not want to get into back and forth. Do not have the time. 

Third, through acts of commission and omission, the PNC/Burnham dictatorship encouraged acts of discrimination, violence, victimization, disenfranchment against Indo-Guyanese collectively and individually. I vividly remember Burnham giving a speech in one of his support areas to the effect that they searched for the gold, look who wears it and he does not have to tell them what to do to get it back. 

If one looks  there might be some  data to indicate what happened. However, much if the data was generated by the government and their agencies so were suspect. Who has the courage to tell the dictator that he was wearing no clothes?

There were acts of commission by a variety of actors. First, by  the government through its many departments. Second, The PNC as a party which became synonomous with the government and the state. Third, as the PNC/Burnham dictatorship gained control over the commanding heights of the economy, through these agencies. Fourth, through the military -the GDF which became an arm of the PNC and which committed overt and covert acts of violence and intimidation. Fifth,  the Guyana Police Force which also became an arm of the PNC. Sixth, The quasi-military National Service. Seventh, the agencies that the PNC/Burnham dictatorship set up such as the KSI, as it solidified the dictatorship. Seventh, various groups which it co-opted and they became shells to create a facade of representation. Eight, the international community, which for a long time closed their eyes and mouths to what was happening in Guyana. Nine, many Indian-Guyanese who drank the soup and helped to create a facade of inclusiveness. Tenth, as my brother keeps reminding me, the Indian-guyanese themselves because many were timid, unwilling, , intimidated, scared  to take action to protect their rights, "biah, a wah abe go du?" attitude.

 

 

Well said Zed. 

The Indians always felt they had more to loose than a Blackman...Family Stability .

FM

Says Django: "Indians were allowed to run their businesses."

Says Gilbakka: There are many ways to skin a cat. At Uitvlugt Pasture where I grew up, there were neighborhood shops owned by Sattaur, Azeez and others. Up to the 1973 election these shops' shelves were loaded with commodities. Then, slowly-slowly the shelves became bare. Why? Burnham restricted imported foods and other goods. In time those shops became shells of their former selves.

On the other hand, in Uitvlugt Casbah where there was a KSI outlet, the shelves were full of scarce commodities but preference was given to Casbah folks who were blacks. I am not blaming Casbah folks; they were always friendly and respectful to me. But the reality was that the Indian shops in Pasture became almost empty while the residents resorted to buying contraband goods.

No doubt about it; that period of Guyana's history was dismal, bleak, frustrating, and punishing particularly to ordinary working-class Indians. No amount of whitewashing will hide that.

FM
Django posted:
Drugb posted:

This bai djangy trying to rewrite history. In my time, a black could smack an indian with impunity. They even jump ahead of you in the guylines and nothing you could say or do because they get their pnc goons to manners you. 

With a little investigation you haven't spent a lot of time in the homeland,your adult life was not many years,I had two stints in Georgetown,1970 to 1973 was living at Durban and Smith St,went back to my home town in the country,came back to work form 1976 to 1985 in Robb Street,travelled daily from home to GT,was never bullied by any blacks,I have earned respect from some in a neighboring village after I stood up to few,who thinks this Coolie is a walkover,my dougla friend who observed what was taking place came out and said any touches me will also have to face him.I am a fear less person,ganging up don't intimidate.

Great for you that you had a great experience among blacks. The rest of us who had to spend 100% time around them were victimized. I and a few others used to defend ourselves against the bullying, however the vast majority of Indians are passive, especially the women who the Afros bullied as they smell the blood of fear.  The black cops used to come to Indian place of business and take whatever they wanted, threatening to seize items if any fuss was made. 

FM

Gill,

Thanks,for highlighting the Food import restriction,we are aware what caused that.

There was a KSI in our village, an Indian Dispenser rented his premises to the outlet,of course there were long lines,there was no preferences given to Indian or Blacks,my wifey used to join the line to purchase scarce items for resale as i mentioned for minimum profits,we befriended one of the salesman and was able to get in increased in volume than the amount that was allowed.

Django
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Django posted:

Gill,

Thanks,for highlighting the Food import restriction,we are aware what caused that.

There was a KSI in our village, an Indian Dispenser rented his premises to the outlet,of course there were long lines,there was no preferences given to Indian or Blacks,my wifey used to join the line to purchase scarce items for resale as i mentioned for minimum profits,we befriended one of the salesman and was able to get in increased in volume than the amount that was allowed.

You're just confirming my suspicion that you and your family profited from the PNC regime's nefarious policies. Opportunists! Profiteers!! Collaborators!!! 

And furthermore, I suspect you're determinedly supporting APNU because you hope to get more "minimum profits" when you return to retire in Guyana, by which time there might be food shortages again.

Vulture capitalist!!!

FM

Django...

this is your post above...

I have earned respect from some in a neighboring village after I stood up to few,who thinks this Coolie is a walkover,my dougla friend who observed what was taking place came out and said any touches me will also have to face him.I am a fear less person,ganging up don't intimidate

 

WHY DID YOU STOOD UP...if you were not bully / intimidated.

Go have a drink of water , before you explain your self!!!

FM
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:

This bai djangy trying to rewrite history. In my time, a black could smack an indian with impunity. They even jump ahead of you in the guylines and nothing you could say or do because they get their pnc goons to manners you. 

With a little investigation you haven't spent a lot of time in the homeland,your adult life was not many years,I had two stints in Georgetown,1970 to 1973 was living at Durban and Smith St,went back to my home town in the country,came back to work form 1976 to 1985 in Robb Street,travelled daily from home to GT,was never bullied by any blacks,I have earned respect from some in a neighboring village after I stood up to few,who thinks this Coolie is a walkover,my dougla friend who observed what was taking place came out and said any touches me will also have to face him.I am a fear less person,ganging up don't intimidate.

Great for you that you had a great experience among blacks. The rest of us who had to spend 100% time around them were victimized. I and a few others used to defend ourselves against the bullying, however the vast majority of Indians are passive, especially the women who the Afros bullied as they smell the blood of fear.  The black cops used to come to Indian place of business and take whatever they wanted, threatening to seize items if any fuss was made. 

Drugb,

I am not doubting any one experience,i think it was more unpleasant in the Cities,the country areas are segregated after the the 1964 crisis,most villages are purely inhabited by Blacks and Indians.

Django
Imran posted:

Django...

this is your post above...

I have earned respect from some in a neighboring village after I stood up to few,who thinks this Coolie is a walkover,my dougla friend who observed what was taking place came out and said any touches me will also have to face him.I am a fear less person,ganging up don't intimidate

 

WHY DID YOU STOOD UP...if you were not bully / intimidated.

Go have a drink of water , before you explain your self!!!

The ones i stood up to were "Holligans" they come in all shades.

Django
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Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:

Gill,

Thanks,for highlighting the Food import restriction,we are aware what caused that.

There was a KSI in our village, an Indian Dispenser rented his premises to the outlet,of course there were long lines,there was no preferences given to Indian or Blacks,my wifey used to join the line to purchase scarce items for resale as i mentioned for minimum profits,we befriended one of the salesman and was able to get in increased in volume than the amount that was allowed.

You're just confirming my suspicion that you and your family profited from the PNC regime's nefarious policies. Opportunists! Profiteers!! Collaborators!!! 

And furthermore, I suspect you're determinedly supporting APNU because you hope to get more "minimum profits" when you return to retire in Guyana, by which time there might be food shortages again.

Vulture capitalist!!!

Bhai,I give you the upper hand you can say anything thing to me,you know where i stand regarding politics in the homeland.

Do you think Burnham,coercive policies will threaten my people and i will standby idly,you have to play the game to protect your people.

Django
Django posted:

ZED,

Basically some of the East Indians who claimed to be "Second Class Citizens" in their country of birth,was personal feeling and not documented,can you extrapolate why that amount felt that way,also i would very much appreciate if you can give some clarity to my level of "intelligence" that amazes you,I would accept it with no animosity from unknown in cyber world.

"Dhobis" have right to ask questions in my "view" they are equal to every other person in the human race,the medium to express one's opinion have changed,voices of the people are heard more frequently ,the highly intellectuals are more challenged in modern day to give answers.

The last paragraph in your post there is nothing that is stated that I am not aware of,that is how "Dictators" stay in power.

 

Django, please reread the first two paragraphs/points. I thought I explained why so many felt that way in the main ten points in the latter part.

i am not questioning your right to ask questions. However, your title to the post was definite, a statement, not posed as a question. Had it been posted as a question, parts of my response might have been different.

i am amazed that you will try to declare it a myth that someone really believe, that is part of their consciousness, their lived experience, now a part of their cognitive structure. How can you prove that person wrong? By facts or you declaring that because it did not happen to you it certainly could not have happened to them or that they could not have those feelings?

Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it. I do not know if that is your intent or that you just want to give a counter point or argument. That is how I view you and many of your posts. 

I really try to be respectful when responding to posts so please accept what I have written for what it is.

 

 

 

 

 

Z
Zed posted:
Django posted:

ZED,

Basically some of the East Indians who claimed to be "Second Class Citizens" in their country of birth,was personal feeling and not documented,can you extrapolate why that amount felt that way,also i would very much appreciate if you can give some clarity to my level of "intelligence" that amazes you,I would accept it with no animosity from unknown in cyber world.

"Dhobis" have right to ask questions in my "view" they are equal to every other person in the human race,the medium to express one's opinion have changed,voices of the people are heard more frequently ,the highly intellectuals are more challenged in modern day to give answers.

The last paragraph in your post there is nothing that is stated that I am not aware of,that is how "Dictators" stay in power.

 

Django, please reread the first two paragraphs/points. I thought I explained why so many felt that way in the main ten points in the latter part.

i am not questioning your right to ask questions. However, your title to the post was definite, a statement, not posed as a question. Had it been posted as a question, parts of my response might have been different.

i am amazed that you will try to declare it a myth that someone really believe, that is part of their consciousness, their lived experience, now a part of their cognitive structure. How can you prove that person wrong? By facts or you declaring that because it did not happen to you it certainly could not have happened to them or that they could not have those feelings?

Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it. I do not know if that is your intent or that you just want to give a counter point or argument. That is how I view you and many of your posts. 

I really try to be respectful when responding to posts so please accept what I have written for what it is.

Django, Zed hit the nail on the head here. You gloat about the PNC, regardless of their record. You do not see the PPP in the same light. MAYBE, you see two evils with the PPP and PNC. However, you seem to hilite only the misdeeds of the PPP. This is not being independent as you claim you are.

FM

"Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it.


 Zed,

Truthfully that is not true,I am not an apologist for no party in the homeland,I took a deep look both they are like the "Mafia"

I lived thru the years,have acknowledged Indians suffered,the poor bear the brunt,I create some threads to debunked the extent that some posters tried to portray the Indian suffering on GNI.

I will state again i am for all the people in the homeland,will give Jack his Jacket.

Most of my thread are created to be controversial to analyze the issues.

 

Django
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Django with due respect to you Indians were treated as inferiors during the Burnham era.  The only problem that I have with the Indo KKK on this topic is that blacks were treated as badly under the Jagdeo/Ramotar regime. While Cheddi had his Indian bias at least he wasn't as oppressive towards blacks as the brutes who followed him, starting with his wife.

FM
skeldon_man posted:

Django, please reread the first two paragraphs/points. I thought I explained why so many felt that way in the main ten points in the latter part.

i am not questioning your right to ask questions. However, your title to the post was definite, a statement, not posed as a question. Had it been posted as a question, parts of my response might have been different.

i am amazed that you will try to declare it a myth that someone really believe, that is part of their consciousness, their lived experience, now a part of their cognitive structure. How can you prove that person wrong? By facts or you declaring that because it did not happen to you it certainly could not have happened to them or that they could not have those feelings?

Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it. I do not know if that is your intent or that you just want to give a counter point or argument. That is how I view you and many of your posts. 

I really try to be respectful when responding to posts so please accept what I have written for what it is.

Django, Zed hit the nail on the head here. You gloat about the PNC, regardless of their record. You do not see the PPP in the same light. MAYBE, you see two evils with the PPP and PNC. However, you seem to hilite only the misdeeds of the PPP. This is not being independent as you claim you are.

You waan me put two stick lash pun yuh.

I dont' like some of the Political figures from the "Two pea of the same pod" they are what i called rejects.

Check my response to Zed.

Django
caribny posted:

Django with due respect to you Indians were treated as inferiors during the Burnham era.  The only problem that I have with the Indo KKK on this topic is that blacks were treated as badly under the Jagdeo/Ramotar regime. While Cheddi had his Indian bias at least he wasn't as oppressive towards blacks as the brutes who followed him, starting with his wife.

Thanks Carib,fair response.

The poor suffered,the rich was respected,I hang around with quite a few.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

Django, Zed hit the nail on the head here. You gloat about the PNC, regardless of their record. You do not see the PPP in the same light. MAYBE, you see two evils with the PPP and PNC. However, you seem to hilite only the misdeeds of the PPP. This is not being independent as you claim you are.

You waan me put two stick lash pun yuh.

I dont' like some of the Political figures from the "Two pea of the same pod" they are what i called rejects.

Check my response to Zed.

Bai only the other day you and DrugB were arguing about your physical abilities. With all that Karate and judo skills, you don't need a stick fuh put two lash pun me.

Like I said, I am not that physical specimen as you guys are. However, I do pack hot lead or steel.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

Django, Zed hit the nail on the head here. You gloat about the PNC, regardless of their record. You do not see the PPP in the same light. MAYBE, you see two evils with the PPP and PNC. However, you seem to hilite only the misdeeds of the PPP. This is not being independent as you claim you are.

You waan me put two stick lash pun yuh.

I dont' like some of the Political figures from the "Two pea of the same pod" they are what i called rejects.

Check my response to Zed.

Bai only the other day you and DrugB were arguing about your physical abilities. With all that Karate and judo skills, you don't need a stick fuh put two lash pun me.

Like I said, I am not that physical specimen as you guys are. However, I do pack hot lead or steel.

Don't like them toys,i am backing out.

Django
Imran posted:
antabanta posted:
Imran posted:
antabanta posted:
Imran posted:

In 2001 , Indians were rape and strip of their clothing on Regent St by blacks in broad day light. Indians businesses were set on fire. 

http://www.guyanaundersiege.com/ethnic%20crimes.htm

Can you or the author substantiate this story? I was on Regent Street close to Acme on the same date and time and saw no such incident.

I was at Thrifty Variety Store , when a female was rescued by SN. Singh store owner , she came from King St . The same direction of Acme .. surprised you miss that. She had her panties on and a bunch of Black tugs were after her . 

I did miss that one. How many indians were raped and stripped on Regent St in broad daylight?

You think me rass got time had time to investigate... but hear na .... that's your weekend homework 

In other words, you don't know what you're talking about. No problem.

A
Zed posted: Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it. I do not know if that is your intent or that you just want to give a counter point or argument. That is how I view you and many of your posts.  

Ow Brother Zed, it is not Django's intent to be a PNC apologist. He merely wants to give a counterpoint or argument.

Why? This forum is overwhelmingly pro-Indian and blackman's reputation getting a good thrashing here, with poor Carib sustaining the brunt of the blows, manfully I must say.

I suspect Django's rationale for his counterpoint is to balance things up. But he is a lousy balahoo rower prone to frequent canting.

Allyuh give de man some breeze.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Zed posted: Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it. I do not know if that is your intent or that you just want to give a counter point or argument. That is how I view you and many of your posts.  

Ow Brother Zed, it is not Django's intent to be a PNC apologist. He merely wants to give a counterpoint or argument.

Why? This forum is overwhelmingly pro-Indian and blackman's reputation getting a good thrashing here, with poor Carib sustaining the brunt of the blows, manfully I must say.

I suspect Django's rationale for his counterpoint is to balance things up. But he is a lousy balahoo rower prone to frequent canting.

Allyuh give de man some breeze.

At one point I thought about doing this too, invent a new handle and become pro PNC to give critical support to the pathetic PNC supporters; CaribJ, keefer, django, gilly, d2, warrier, pointblank and others. 

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Zed posted: Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it. I do not know if that is your intent or that you just want to give a counter point or argument. That is how I view you and many of your posts.  

Ow Brother Zed, it is not Django's intent to be a PNC apologist. He merely wants to give a counterpoint or argument.

Why? This forum is overwhelmingly pro-Indian and blackman's reputation getting a good thrashing here, with poor Carib sustaining the brunt of the blows, manfully I must say.

I suspect Django's rationale for his counterpoint is to balance things up. But he is a lousy balahoo rower prone to frequent canting.

Allyuh give de man some breeze.

Gil, I will do so on your wise advise. 

Z
Django posted:
caribny posted:

Django with due respect to you Indians were treated as inferiors during the Burnham era.  The only problem that I have with the Indo KKK on this topic is that blacks were treated as badly under the Jagdeo/Ramotar regime. While Cheddi had his Indian bias at least he wasn't as oppressive towards blacks as the brutes who followed him, starting with his wife.

Thanks Carib,fair response.

The poor suffered,the rich was respected,I hang around with quite a few.

This is how the Burnham era was.

A small African/mixed elite shoe horned themselves into dominance through the full state control of the economy. An even smaller Indian business/professional elite benefited by forming alliances with this group. They bribed them and/or were used as tokens so that the base racism of the Burnham era could be disguised. 

The Burnham group chased out those who wanted to be independent, regardless of race, or in the case of Rodney, simply killed them.  Often the Indian soup lickers screamed support, yes this for their survival.  I can think of a certain Indian female who was a GNS officer. She loved black men, scorned Indian men, and was a very belligerent Burnham bully. A very loyal soldier of her black massas.

An African grass roots was used to "legitimize" this group by giving them some notion of popular support, and to be the foot soldiers.  A few of these benefitted being ardent PNC party card carriers and got jobs that they usually weren't qualified for.  The YSM, and certain others who got favors.  Yes that KSI business of refusing to sell to certain people is true as are complaints that those business people who didn't join the Burnham train were punished. The Kirpalanis as I recall had no problems.

The rest of the African grass roots population was fooled into Animal Farm type devotion of Burnham. Initially their support was bought through patronage, reducing them to total dependence on the state for employment, and undermining any independence that they had. 

The sad part was that the high standards of education of the African was undermined, as was their strong dominance of the skilled trades. The old reputation of the Afro Guyanese as disciplined died. Why work when a lazy man office job bullying people was available.  And they bullied all, not just Indians.  Their biggest ire in fact was directed to those blacks who refused to join the Burnham train and who continued to value education, hard work, personal responsibility and independence.

In fact during the Burnham era there was a complete rewriting of the history of Afro Guyanese. We were told that before Burnham we were a bunch of under achieving losers, so that all that we have must be credited to him.  So the role of the black middle class in developing pre independent Guyana was wiped out. Burnham himself came from that class of productive Afro Guyanese so he cannot claim ignorance.

The Africans were reduced to extreme poverty once the gravy train ended. Lacking an economic base, and remaining dependent on the state, losing their edge in education and the trades,  their poverty continued under the PPP which unleashed a torrent of racist oppression towards them, except of course for the PPP's own brand of ethnic tokenism.

Lacking any real benefit from the PNC era Burnham used the black grass roots much as Trump uses his white working class.  He encouraged their basest racist instincts against Indians, so yes I can well believe that bullying against Indians (and Amerindians) occurred.

The Indian grass roots had nothing to offer the PNC elites.  Their instinct to be clannish (ethnically exclusive) was used by Burnham to play on African insecurities of what Indian rule would bring to them. So even as blacks began to turn against Burnham they didn't rebel because they feared "coolie people rule".  In retrospect we have seen that Indian rule did exclude blacks, a "mistake" that the PPP made.

So yes Indian grass roots were marginalized and bullied by the Burnham goons.  Just as Trump makes hungry whites feel that they are hungry, but they are better than Muslims, blacks and non white foreigners, so too did he make grass roots blacks feel better than Indians/Amerindians, and perfectly "justified" in bullying them.

The Indo KKK should note that I will condemn black racism as I see it.  I have done so on MANY occasions and in fact my first post on this site made reference to this. 

They ought to do the same when Indian racism occurs rather than either whining "as far as I know", or blatantly denying that this occurs and that only black racism is pertinent.  Instead they scream that those who confront Indian racism hate Indians, and they level the nastiest charges against those Indians who have the integrity to condemn racism coming from Indians as they can be expected to confront black racism.

In fact my analysis of the Jagdeo era will be the same except that the position of the dominant races is reversed, but GTAngler and company will NEVER admit this!

FM
Drugb posted:
 

At one point I thought about doing this too, invent a new handle and become pro PNC to give critical support to the pathetic PNC supporters; CaribJ, keefer, django, gilly, d2, warrier, pointblank and others. 

No need for your help. Your ignorance did much to ensure that the PPP lost the last election. Thanks to you the image of the PPP supporter is that of an ignorant, backward and racist cretin. 

No wonder so many G/T Indians ran away from the PPP, not wanting to be connected to people like you. So much that even last year the PPP lost ground in G/T in the local government elections, losing most of its G/T seats.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Carib sustaining the brunt of the blows, manfully I must say.

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Carib doesnt mind as those who attempt to attack me have long revealed themselves to be a bunch of ignorant and racist cretins. No wonder almost all of them are equally supportive of Donald Trump, who has turned out to be even WORSE than many of us feared that he would be.

FM
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Drugb posted:
 

Bai I is the only man here on this forum that actually disciplined some of your Black bullies here physically. 

So you say but I recall that you spent every day at Saints crying and howling at how the black and Portuguese boys treated you. Even today you continued to suffer from the PTSD arising from the beatings that you sustained.

FM
caribny posted:
Django posted:
caribny posted:

Django with due respect to you Indians were treated as inferiors during the Burnham era.  The only problem that I have with the Indo KKK on this topic is that blacks were treated as badly under the Jagdeo/Ramotar regime. While Cheddi had his Indian bias at least he wasn't as oppressive towards blacks as the brutes who followed him, starting with his wife.

Thanks Carib,fair response.

The poor suffered,the rich was respected,I hang around with quite a few.

This is how the Burnham era was.

A small African/mixed elite shoe horned themselves into dominance through the full state control of the economy. An even smaller Indian business/professional elite benefited by forming alliances with this group. They bribed them and/or were used as tokens so that the base racism of the Burnham era could be disguised. 

The Burnham group chased out those who wanted to be independent, regardless of race, or in the case of Rodney, simply killed them.  Often the Indian soup lickers screamed support, yes this for their survival.  I can think of a certain Indian female who was a GNS officer. She loved black men, scorned Indian men, and was a very belligerent Burnham bully. A very loyal soldier of her black massas.

An African grass roots was used to "legitimize" this group by giving them some notion of popular support, and to be the foot soldiers.  A few of these benefitted being ardent PNC party card carriers and got jobs that they usually weren't qualified for.  The YSM, and certain others who got favors.  Yes that KSI business of refusing to sell to certain people is true as are complaints that those business people who didn't join the Burnham train were punished. The Kirpalanis as I recall had no problems.

The rest of the African grass roots population was fooled into Animal Farm type devotion of Burnham. Initially their support was bought through patronage, reducing them to total dependence on the state for employment, and undermining any independence that they had. 

The sad part was that the high standards of education of the African was undermined, as was their strong dominance of the skilled trades. The old reputation of the Afro Guyanese as disciplined died. Why work when a lazy man office job bullying people was available.  And they bullied all, not just Indians.  Their biggest ire in fact was directed to those blacks who refused to join the Burnham train and who continued to value education, hard work, personal responsibility and independence.

In fact during the Burnham era there was a complete rewriting of the history of Afro Guyanese. We were told that before Burnham we were a bunch of under achieving losers, so that all that we have must be credited to him.  So the role of the black middle class in developing pre independent Guyana was wiped out. Burnham himself came from that class of productive Afro Guyanese so he cannot claim ignorance.

The Africans were reduced to extreme poverty once the gravy train ended. Lacking an economic base, and remaining dependent on the state, losing their edge in education and the trades,  their poverty continued under the PPP which unleashed a torrent of racist oppression towards them, except of course for the PPP's own brand of ethnic tokenism.

Lacking any real benefit from the PNC era Burnham used the black grass roots much as Trump uses his white working class.  He encouraged their basest racist instincts against Indians, so yes I can well believe that bullying against Indians (and Amerindians) occurred.

The Indian grass roots had nothing to offer the PNC elites.  Their instinct to be clannish (ethnically exclusive) was used by Burnham to play on African insecurities of what Indian rule would bring to them. So even as blacks began to turn against Burnham they didn't rebel because they feared "coolie people rule".  In retrospect we have seen that Indian rule did exclude blacks, a "mistake" that the PPP made.

So yes Indian grass roots were marginalized and bullied by the Burnham goons.  Just as Trump makes hungry whites feel that they are hungry, but they are better than Muslims, blacks and non white foreigners, so too did he make grass roots blacks feel better than Indians/Amerindians, and perfectly "justified" in bullying them.

The Indo KKK should note that I will condemn black racism as I see it.  I have done so on MANY occasions and in fact my first post on this site made reference to this. 

They ought to do the same when Indian racism occurs rather than either whining "as far as I know", or blatantly denying that this occurs and that only black racism is pertinent.  Instead they scream that those who confront Indian racism hate Indians, and they level the nastiest charges against those Indians who have the integrity to condemn racism coming from Indians as they can be expected to confront black racism.

In fact my analysis of the Jagdeo era will be the same except that the position of the dominant races is reversed, but GTAngler and company will NEVER admit this!

An excellent post by carib. I am sure EVERYONE is in agreement.

cain

Ohhh poor you..Indians not racist...yehhh right. Have you ever gave some thought that those you condem, dislike not only Indians but all dumbasses who simply don't get it?

This is exactly why I back carib, the guy speaks the truth on how Burnham fkd the people..and I am dam sure you and others like yourself skin yall teeth at that part but when carib mentioned the same being done by the PPP, that happy wide grin becomes a grimmace...he is suddenly a racist.

Why?  I'll tell you why. It is because that racism is in you and others like yourself.

Truly fkd up minds I tell ya.

cain
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Carib,

Your response is spot on,nothing but the truth.

I would like to add while the Africans Tradesman were decimated,a new door was opened for East Indians to increase their presence in trades,like Carpenters,Masons,Mechanics,Welders..etc,I have seen that in my neck of the woods.

Another point to note Some East Indians got rich running contraband,some of the folks i know were farmers.

Django
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Django posted:

Carib,

Your response is spot on,nothing but the truth.

I would like to add while the Africans Tradesman were decimated,a new door was opened for East Indians to increase their presence in trades,like Carpenters,Masons,Mechanics,Welders..etc,I have seen that in my neck of the woods.

Another point to note Some East Indians got rich running contraband,some of the folks i know were farmers.

You have an uncanny obsession with Indians who have accumulated wealth.  Don't make yourself miserable worrying about other people's accomplishments.  You don't know their journey and what sacrifice they made to get there.

Bibi Haniffa
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Zed posted: Truthfully, most often, you come across as an apologist for the PNC and not even doing a good job of it. I do not know if that is your intent or that you just want to give a counter point or argument. That is how I view you and many of your posts.  

Ow Brother Zed, it is not Django's intent to be a PNC apologist. He merely wants to give a counterpoint or argument.

Why? This forum is overwhelmingly pro-Indian and blackman's reputation getting a good thrashing here, with poor Carib sustaining the brunt of the blows, manfully I must say.

I suspect Django's rationale for his counterpoint is to balance things up. But he is a lousy balahoo rower prone to frequent canting.

Allyuh give de man some breeze.

At one point I thought about doing this too, invent a new handle and become pro PNC to give critical support to the pathetic PNC supporters; CaribJ, keefer, django, gilly, d2, warrier, pointblank and others. 

Are these PNC supporters or anti-Indian supporters??  Or maybe that is one and the same.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

Carib,

Your response is spot on,nothing but the truth.

I would like to add while the Africans Tradesman were decimated,a new door was opened for East Indians to increase their presence in trades,like Carpenters,Masons,Mechanics,Welders..etc,I have seen that in my neck of the woods.

Another point to note Some East Indians got rich running contraband,some of the folks i know were farmers.

You have an uncanny obsession with Indians who have accumulated wealth.  Don't make yourself miserable worrying about other people's accomplishments.  You don't know their journey and what sacrifice they made to get there.

You are totally wrong and also why should i be miserable ??,in the homeland I have assisted when they are in need and guide them to become independent.

I have accumulated wealth and not the selfish type,would share the knowledge with any one.

Appears an Indian can't say nothing about his matee Indian..without an outburst of negativity.

Django
cain posted:
caribny posted:

This is how the Burnham era was.

A small African/mixed elite shoe horned themselves into dominance through the full state control of the economy. An even smaller Indian business/professional elite benefited by forming alliances with this group. They bribed them and/or were used as tokens so that the base racism of the Burnham era could be disguised. 

The Burnham group chased out those who wanted to be independent, regardless of race, or in the case of Rodney, simply killed them.  Often the Indian soup lickers screamed support, yes this for their survival.  I can think of a certain Indian female who was a GNS officer. She loved black men, scorned Indian men, and was a very belligerent Burnham bully. A very loyal soldier of her black massas.

An African grass roots was used to "legitimize" this group by giving them some notion of popular support, and to be the foot soldiers.  A few of these benefitted being ardent PNC party card carriers and got jobs that they usually weren't qualified for.  The YSM, and certain others who got favors.  Yes that KSI business of refusing to sell to certain people is true as are complaints that those business people who didn't join the Burnham train were punished. The Kirpalanis as I recall had no problems.

The rest of the African grass roots population was fooled into Animal Farm type devotion of Burnham. Initially their support was bought through patronage, reducing them to total dependence on the state for employment, and undermining any independence that they had. 

The sad part was that the high standards of education of the African was undermined, as was their strong dominance of the skilled trades. The old reputation of the Afro Guyanese as disciplined died. Why work when a lazy man office job bullying people was available.  And they bullied all, not just Indians.  Their biggest ire in fact was directed to those blacks who refused to join the Burnham train and who continued to value education, hard work, personal responsibility and independence.

In fact during the Burnham era there was a complete rewriting of the history of Afro Guyanese. We were told that before Burnham we were a bunch of under achieving losers, so that all that we have must be credited to him.  So the role of the black middle class in developing pre independent Guyana was wiped out. Burnham himself came from that class of productive Afro Guyanese so he cannot claim ignorance.

The Africans were reduced to extreme poverty once the gravy train ended. Lacking an economic base, and remaining dependent on the state, losing their edge in education and the trades,  their poverty continued under the PPP which unleashed a torrent of racist oppression towards them, except of course for the PPP's own brand of ethnic tokenism.

Lacking any real benefit from the PNC era Burnham used the black grass roots much as Trump uses his white working class.  He encouraged their basest racist instincts against Indians, so yes I can well believe that bullying against Indians (and Amerindians) occurred.

The Indian grass roots had nothing to offer the PNC elites.  Their instinct to be clannish (ethnically exclusive) was used by Burnham to play on African insecurities of what Indian rule would bring to them. So even as blacks began to turn against Burnham they didn't rebel because they feared "coolie people rule".  In retrospect we have seen that Indian rule did exclude blacks, a "mistake" that the PPP made.

So yes Indian grass roots were marginalized and bullied by the Burnham goons.  Just as Trump makes hungry whites feel that they are hungry, but they are better than Muslims, blacks and non white foreigners, so too did he make grass roots blacks feel better than Indians/Amerindians, and perfectly "justified" in bullying them.

The Indo KKK should note that I will condemn black racism as I see it.  I have done so on MANY occasions and in fact my first post on this site made reference to this. 

They ought to do the same when Indian racism occurs rather than either whining "as far as I know", or blatantly denying that this occurs and that only black racism is pertinent.  Instead they scream that those who confront Indian racism hate Indians, and they level the nastiest charges against those Indians who have the integrity to condemn racism coming from Indians as they can be expected to confront black racism.

In fact my analysis of the Jagdeo era will be the same except that the position of the dominant races is reversed, but GTAngler and company will NEVER admit this!

An excellent post by carib. I am sure EVERYONE is in agreement.

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks. In fact if one does a comparison you would see that the PPP gave more to the Black communities and forsake the Indians to their own detriment in the elections. They bent over backwards to Linden, Buxton and Agricola while forsaking the Indian villages. Disenchantment ensued and the rest is history and the djangos,tk , gillys and others fled to the arms of the pnc. 

FM
Django posted:

Carib,

Your response is spot on,nothing but the truth.

I would like to add while the Africans Tradesman were decimated,a new door was opened for East Indians to increase their presence in trades,like Carpenters,Masons,Mechanics,Welders..etc,I have seen that in my neck of the woods.

Another point to note Some East Indians got rich running contraband,some of the folks i know were farmers.

Django, you are a Fk up Ass Hole . You use words on this forum i don't believe you have any idea what they mean.

since you use the word DECIMATED to describe Africans extinct in trades...  you are indirectly claiming Indians kill Blacks and went into trades ... what a fk jerk 

All over this world it has proven Blacks are responsible for their own downfall .

Since you are in defence of Blacks / Africans ... what have you done for them. Why don't you go back home and invest some of your fortune and skill and teach them how to save and be productive... I would bet in five years your skt would not even see a pc of metal ... unless you are there.

Regarding East Indians involved in contraband... absolutely yes and so are Africans. The reasons more Indians were in this business  they had the money . The blacks business owners  would buy a case of mike and sold all and believe all the cash was their profit.

When your wife had the " little " shop , wasn't she selling contraband food .... why didn't she got into farming.

Blacks were working for Indians ( contraband), transporting the goods and in return blacks get to feed their dozen wife and hundreds of kids ... thanks to the Indians who employed them. 

And to you and Carib and the Putagee Cain , Black people had a better life under the PPP government. 

The PPP government spend more resources in Blacks neighbourhood . The PPP believe Indians  were self sufficient so no need to focus on them , and this is where they lost their supporters to AFC because Rumjat And Naga saw the weekness and make in roads . Frank Anthony donate all the sports equipment to blacks and tell Indians to do fund raising to get their own.

The schools and and government buildings that blacks burned in their own villages... prove their mentality so you and your acolytes should go back and teach them how to live . 

Why don't you use your experience from working at Mohammad Electronics to moving to the states where your  Irish boss was loosing money and you took over the business and fired the accountant and turn around the business... you honestly want to say you never knew this was happening while been employed with your Irish boss!!!! You out smart your Irish boss , so .....

Take your skills and teach Blacks/ Africans how to be successful in life. 

 

FM
Imran posted:
Django posted:

Carib,

Your response is spot on,nothing but the truth.

I would like to add while the Africans Tradesman were decimated,a new door was opened for East Indians to increase their presence in trades,like Carpenters,Masons,Mechanics,Welders..etc,I have seen that in my neck of the woods.

Another point to note Some East Indians got rich running contraband,some of the folks i know were farmers.

Django, you are a Fk up Ass Hole . You use words on this forum i don't believe you have any idea what they mean.

since you use the word DECIMATED to describe Africans extinct in trades...  you are indirectly claiming Indians kill Blacks and went into trades ... what a fk jerk 

All over this world it has proven Blacks are responsible for their own downfall .

Since you are in defence of Blacks / Africans ... what have you done for them. Why don't you go back home and invest some of your fortune and skill and teach them how to save and be productive... I would bet in five years your skt would not even see a pc of metal ... unless you are there.

Regarding East Indians involved in contraband... absolutely yes and so are Africans. The reasons more Indians were in this business  they had the money . The blacks business owners  would buy a case of mike and sold all and believe all the cash was their profit.

When your wife had the " little " shop , wasn't she selling contraband food .... why didn't she got into farming.

Blacks were working for Indians ( contraband), transporting the goods and in return blacks get to feed their dozen wife and hundreds of kids ... thanks to the Indians who employed them. 

And to you and Carib and the Putagee Cain , Black people had a better life under the PPP government. 

The PPP government spend more resources in Blacks neighbourhood . The PPP believe Indians  were self sufficient so no need to focus on them , and this is where they lost their supporters to AFC because Rumjat And Naga saw the weekness and make in roads . Frank Anthony donate all the sports equipment to blacks and tell Indians to do fund raising to get their own.

The schools and and government buildings that blacks burned in their own villages... prove their mentality so you and your acolytes should go back and teach them how to live . 

Why don't you use your experience from working at Mohammad Electronics to moving to the states where your  Irish boss was loosing money and you took over the business and fired the accountant and turn around the business... you honestly want to say you never knew this was happening while been employed with your Irish boss!!!! You out smart your Irish boss , so .....

Take your skills and teach Blacks/ Africans how to be successful in life. 

 

decΒ·iΒ·mate
ˈdesΙ™ΛŒmāt/
verb
past tense: decimated; past participle: decimated
  1. 1.
    kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of.
    "the project would decimate the fragile wetland wilderness"
    • drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something).
      "plant viruses that can decimate yields"
  2. 2.
    historical
    kill one in every ten of (a group of soldiers or others) as a punishment for the whole group.

    "I would like to add while the Africans Tradesman were decimated,a new door was opened for East Indians to increase their presence in trades,like Carpenters,Masons,Mechanics,Welders..etc,I have seen that in my neck of the woods."

       


 

Burnham did that,

where did i imply it was done by Indians,we are discussing an Era,why are getting worked up without clearly understand what some one writes.

Futher you don't need to use my personnel experiences as an attack,keep it clean.

Read Carib post and the above response.

Django
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Django posted:
Drugb posted:

We need more eyewitness accounts like Imran's to counter the lies peddled by Django, Cain, keefer, Caribj and others. 

Why would i lie ??,there are no benefits to gain.

You guys are something else.

Django, your personal experience was NOT an attack ... share it with your Black Breathren how to be successful in life.

Regarding " Why would i lie ??,there are no benefits to gain." .... don't believe so .

FM
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Imran posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:

We need more eyewitness accounts like Imran's to counter the lies peddled by Django, Cain, keefer, Caribj and others. 

Why would i lie ??,there are no benefits to gain.

You guys are something else.

Django, your personal experience was NOT an attack ... share it with your Black Breathren how to be successful in life.

Regarding " Why would i lie ??,there are no benefits to gain." .... don't believe so .

Imran,

Truthfully no benefits and not interested in the future.

I will eat "salt and rice",than take money that belongs to the poor.

Right here in the ole USA,any unsatisfied Customer that pay out of pocket if repair failed and they are not satisfied,full refund i take the losses for parts installed,doesn't happen often.

I don't feel good taking someone money and they are not happy.

Django
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Django posted:
Imran posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:

We need more eyewitness accounts like Imran's to counter the lies peddled by Django, Cain, keefer, Caribj and others. 

Why would i lie ??,there are no benefits to gain.

You guys are something else.

Django, your personal experience was NOT an attack ... share it with your Black Breathren how to be successful in life.

Regarding " Why would i lie ??,there are no benefits to gain." .... don't believe so .

Imran,

Truthfully no benefits and not interested in the future.

I will eat "salt and rice",than take money that belongs to the poor.

Right here in the ole USA,any unsatisfied Customer that pay out of pocket if repair failed and they are not satisfied,full refund i take the losses for parts installed,doesn't happen often.

I don't feel good taking someone money and they are not happy.

Smart Business... they will come back to you or tell their friends and family and that's where you will make the $ 

BTW happy you still have some Indians left in you... don't take someone else money. 

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Drugb posted:
At one point I thought about doing this too, invent a new handle and become pro PNC to give critical support to the pathetic PNC supporters; CaribJ, keefer, django, gilly, d2, warrier, pointblank and others. 

Are these PNC supporters or anti-Indian supporters??  Or maybe that is one and the same.

OMG, here she goes again. One time Gilly supported APNU+AFC uncritically. Later, Gilly supported APNU+AFC critically. Later still, Gilly ceased supporting APNU+AFC and declared so openly in this Forum. What else do you want Gilly to do, Bibi? Kiss yuh batty? Gilly is too old for that.

One more time, here is my credo: I love non-racial Indians but hate racial Indians. I love non-racial Blacks but hate racial Blacks. I love Chinese who eat chicken and pork but hate Chinese who eat dog meat. I love all Amerindians and Portuguese.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

OMG, here she goes again. One time Gilly supported APNU+AFC uncritically. Later, Gilly supported APNU+AFC critically. Later still, Gilly ceased supporting APNU+AFC and declared so openly in this Forum. What else do you want Gilly to do, Bibi? Kiss yuh batty? Gilly is too old for that.

One more time, here is my credo: I love non-racial Indians but hate racial Indians. I love non-racial Blacks but hate racial Blacks. I love Chinese who eat chicken and pork but hate Chinese who eat dog meat. I love all Amerindians and Portuguese.

You are ok in my books Gilly. The PPP got too big for their breeches and got sent packing. The PNC looks like they are heading in the same direction, however they got the secret weapon, rigging. 

FM
yuji22 posted:

Look at this slop can Carrier Django. He wants to join the PNC dog Shyte and deny that Indos suffered under the racist Afro led PNC dictators. 

This is complete eye pass.

Paging Django, come out here and talk like a man now !!!! Stop hiding under Grainjaw's skirt !!!!

You is another one who cut and run an have not experienced living under Burnham.

May i remind you to refrain from the name calling,it does not make you macho,unless you are a sissy and have mouth behind a key board.

Django
Drugb posted:
 

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks.

Burnham built the MMA and the main beneficiaries were Indians. What economic base did the PPP do for the black areas mentioned.  They did nothing when a privatized bauxite industry tossed 80% of the bauxite workers on the breadline. And don't be a moron and cite the black PPP soup licker who said otherwise.

Interesting how you agree with me until I discuss Indian racism.

Pity that you cannot remove beyond your tribal thinking and in fact prove that clannishness is a trait shared by large numbers of Indians.

FM
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Look at this slop can Carrier Django. He wants to join the PNC dog Shyte and deny that Indos suffered under the racist Afro led PNC dictators. 

This is complete eye pass.

Paging Django, come out here and talk like a man now !!!! Stop hiding under Grainjaw's skirt !!!!

You is another one who cut and run an have not experienced living under Burnham.

May i remind you to refrain from the name calling,it does not make you macho,unless you are a sissy and have mouth behind a key board.

Never lived under Burnham ? You must be out of your senses !!!

We were denied, electricity and drinking water because our two villages opposed the PNC dictatorship and stood up in 1973 to PNC soldiers who wanted to steal our ballot boxes.

Now Gwan Suh, Slop Can GirGira.

Burnham and Hoyte are the reasons why I resent the Dog Shyte PNC. These two men were dictators and riggers. 

FM
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Gilbakka posted:
 

 but hate racial Indians.

On GNI this is a racist comment and a sign of hating Indians.  Druggie just proved some one right when they said that folks were skinning their teeth and I criticized the PNC and agreed with the fact the bullying of Indians was encouraged. Then I become a racist when I then discuss what happened under the PPP.

They lacking any objectivity or any willingness to discuss the role of Indians in contributing to ethnic distrust then get angered when clannishness is discussed a as trait displayed by many Indians.  This after they exhibit exactly that behavior.

FM
Imran posted:
Django posted:

 

And to you and Carib and the Putagee Cain , Black people had a better life under the PPP government. 

 

I guess you are a black man and so expert on the fact that blacks benefitted more than Indians under the PPP. Do you know that there are blacks who claim that Indians benefitted more under the PNC than did blacks?

Their opinions disregard the lived experiences of Indians under the PNC, just as yours disregard those of blacks, especially under Jagdeo and Ramotar.  You do know that those projects in black villages were built by Indians who hired Indians, with blacks watching and remaining unemployed.

FM
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Look at this slop can Carrier Django. He wants to join the PNC dog Shyte and deny that Indos suffered under the racist Afro led PNC dictators. 

This is complete eye pass.

Paging Django, come out here and talk like a man now !!!! Stop hiding under Grainjaw's skirt !!!!

You is another one who cut and run an have not experienced living under Burnham.

May i remind you to refrain from the name calling,it does not make you macho,unless you are a sissy and have mouth behind a key board.

Never lived under Burnham ? You must be out of your senses !!!

We were denied, electricity and drinking water and because two villages opposed the PNC dictatorship and stood up in 1973 to PNC soldiers who wanted to steal our ballot boxes.

Now Gwan Suh, Slop Can GirGira.

Burnham and Hoyte are the reasons why I resent the Dog Shyte PNC. These two men were dictators and riggers. 

How many years you lived on Burnham??

This is my last post to you,will not accept name calling,promised "Gilly" not to call any one names.

Educate your self about the fighters in the struggles from West Coast Demerara,not only Berbicians were fierce,for that matter Indians all over the country contributed.

Have a great evening.

Django
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Look at this slop can Carrier Django. He wants to join the PNC dog Shyte and deny that Indos suffered under the racist Afro led PNC dictators. 

This is complete eye pass.

Paging Django, come out here and talk like a man now !!!! Stop hiding under Grainjaw's skirt !!!!

You is another one who cut and run an have not experienced living under Burnham.

May i remind you to refrain from the name calling,it does not make you macho,unless you are a sissy and have mouth behind a key board.

Never lived under Burnham ? You must be out of your senses !!!

We were denied, electricity and drinking water and because two villages opposed the PNC dictatorship and stood up in 1973 to PNC soldiers who wanted to steal our ballot boxes.

Now Gwan Suh, Slop Can GirGira.

Burnham and Hoyte are the reasons why I resent the Dog Shyte PNC. These two men were dictators and riggers. 

This is my last post to you,will not accept name calling,promised "Gilly" not to call any one names.

Educate your self about the fighters in the struggles from West Coast Demerara,not only Berbicians were fierce,for that matter Indians all over the country contributed.

Have a great evening.

Eh Eh,

It was you who were calling me a Boat Bramhana and started a whole thread about it. If you dish it out, you better be able to take it back. I even offered you an olive branch and you peed on it.

Now that you met your match, you are running away like the coward D2.

As for struggles, Indos suffered immensely under the PNC yet you have the guts to deny it by saying that Indo suffering and racism under Burnham and Hoyte was a myth ?

SMH

 

FM
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks.

Burnham built the MMA and the main beneficiaries were Indians. What economic base did the PPP do for the black areas mentioned.  They did nothing when a privatized bauxite industry tossed 80% of the bauxite workers on the breadline. And don't be a moron and cite the black PPP soup licker who said otherwise.

Interesting how you agree with me until I discuss Indian racism.

Pity that you cannot remove beyond your tribal thinking and in fact prove that clannishness is a trait shared by large numbers of Indians.

MMA project helps both Indians and Africans , it also save blacks village from flooding... Hoptetown , Belladrum which are predominantly blacks village to name a few ...

Don't come peddle lies here ... you are getting caught. 

FM
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Look at this slop can Carrier Django. He wants to join the PNC dog Shyte and deny that Indos suffered under the racist Afro led PNC dictators. 

This is complete eye pass.

Paging Django, come out here and talk like a man now !!!! Stop hiding under Grainjaw's skirt !!!!

You is another one who cut and run an have not experienced living under Burnham.

May i remind you to refrain from the name calling,it does not make you macho,unless you are a sissy and have mouth behind a key board.

Never lived under Burnham ? You must be out of your senses !!!

We were denied, electricity and drinking water and because two villages opposed the PNC dictatorship and stood up in 1973 to PNC soldiers who wanted to steal our ballot boxes.

Now Gwan Suh, Slop Can GirGira.

Burnham and Hoyte are the reasons why I resent the Dog Shyte PNC. These two men were dictators and riggers. 

How many years you lived on Burnham??

This is my last post to you,will not accept name calling,promised "Gilly" not to call any one names.

Educate your self about the fighters in the struggles from West Coast Demerara,not only Berbicians were fierce,for that matter Indians all over the country contributed.

Have a great evening.

Eh Eh look how Django frowns out he skirt when he Breathren clock in ...

FM
Imran posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks.

Burnham built the MMA and the main beneficiaries were Indians. What economic base did the PPP do for the black areas mentioned.  They did nothing when a privatized bauxite industry tossed 80% of the bauxite workers on the breadline. And don't be a moron and cite the black PPP soup licker who said otherwise.

Interesting how you agree with me until I discuss Indian racism.

Pity that you cannot remove beyond your tribal thinking and in fact prove that clannishness is a trait shared by large numbers of Indians.

MMA project helps both Indians and Africans , it also save blacks village from flooding... Hoptetown , Belladrum which are predominantly blacks village to name a few ...

Don't come peddle lies here ... you are getting caught. 

Carib has once again been caught in his web of lies. This CARIB chap is a racist Burnhamite sent here to sell PNC Dog Shyte.

FM
yuji22 posted:
Imran posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks.

Burnham built the MMA and the main beneficiaries were Indians. What economic base did the PPP do for the black areas mentioned.  They did nothing when a privatized bauxite industry tossed 80% of the bauxite workers on the breadline. And don't be a moron and cite the black PPP soup licker who said otherwise.

Interesting how you agree with me until I discuss Indian racism.

Pity that you cannot remove beyond your tribal thinking and in fact prove that clannishness is a trait shared by large numbers of Indians.

MMA project helps both Indians and Africans , it also save blacks village from flooding... Hoptetown , Belladrum which are predominantly blacks village to name a few ...

Don't come peddle lies here ... you are getting caught. 

Carib has once again been caught in his web of lies. This CARIB chap is a racist Burnhamite sent here to sell PNC Dog Shyte.

Along the Abary river to Mahaica mostly black has cash crop growing and some of the smarter ones who grow up among Indians had rice fields and the Indians helped them in cutting the rice ... unfortunately the blacks couldn't afford tractors and combine . 

So carib go and come again 

FM
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks.

Burnham built the MMA and the main beneficiaries were Indians. What economic base did the PPP do for the black areas mentioned.  They did nothing when a privatized bauxite industry tossed 80% of the bauxite workers on the breadline. And don't be a moron and cite the black PPP soup licker who said otherwise.

Interesting how you agree with me until I discuss Indian racism.

Pity that you cannot remove beyond your tribal thinking and in fact prove that clannishness is a trait shared by large numbers of Indians.

It was in Burnham's best interest to build the MMA. Without it the rice/sugar industry and Guyanese economy would suffer as  rice/sugar was the major foreign currency earner for the PNC to steal.  It wasn't the Indian interest that Burnham had at heart but rather his own interest for stealing the tax income from the Indian sweat.  

In terms of Bauxite, there was nothing the PPP could do to rescue the industry, it was uneconomical and could not compete on the world market.  Privatization was the only solution to rescue the industry, which of course cuts out the inefficiencies such as the cushy positions that Burnham created for his henchmen.  Today we see sugar suffering the same fate. 

FM
Gilbakka posted:
seignet posted:

Those on here who speak against Indian racism, does hate East Indians. Their point of view is laced not with condemnation but rather a deep deep hatred for all Indians in Guyana. 

Know ye clearly that thou art wrong in thy judgement.

That depends on one's experience. You have stated many times , you were a follower of CBJ. Like you, he never wanted to believe that Guyana is not a racist society ever since the East Indian arrived. History is written about it and black elites states it all the time.

Caribj is a decent chap. Never met him. His written words reveal a person of great undersatning and wisdom. I get upset with him when he goes off with imbecile rants.

AS for D2 and Cain, dem 2 are definite East Indian haters. Their words are poisoned with hate-mostly imaginable to fullfil their lack of knowledge. Somebody told them that those who are of East Indian pride have no business to proud of their Indianness. 

Every Hindu East Indian must beat dem down.  

S
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Look at this slop can Carrier Django. He wants to join the PNC dog Shyte and deny that Indos suffered under the racist Afro led PNC dictators. 

This is complete eye pass.

Paging Django, come out here and talk like a man now !!!! Stop hiding under Grainjaw's skirt !!!!

You is another one who cut and run an have not experienced living under Burnham.

May i remind you to refrain from the name calling,it does not make you macho,unless you are a sissy and have mouth behind a key board.

Never lived under Burnham ? You must be out of your senses !!!

We were denied, electricity and drinking water and because two villages opposed the PNC dictatorship and stood up in 1973 to PNC soldiers who wanted to steal our ballot boxes.

Now Gwan Suh, Slop Can GirGira.

Burnham and Hoyte are the reasons why I resent the Dog Shyte PNC. These two men were dictators and riggers. 

How many years you lived on Burnham??

This is my last post to you,will not accept name calling,promised "Gilly" not to call any one names.

Educate your self about the fighters in the struggles from West Coast Demerara,not only Berbicians were fierce,for that matter Indians all over the country contributed.

Have a great evening.

You called the man "sissy". When he called you slop can carrier, why didn't you retort that you're in the company of Mahatma Gandhi who carried slop can in South Africa? You must listen to Gilly or Maharaj yuji22 will roast your nuts.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

ATTENTION yuji22: Quit harassing Django immediately or me go put up da song bout yuh gyal from Rose Hall town and mek yuh cry fo dinner.

OK Bhai

I will start a truce and only condemn his pro AFC/PNC policies in a constructive manner.

He really ticked me off with the Boat Bramhana thread. He made a huge mistake but I forgive him now.

Peace. 

FM
caribny posted:
Imran posted:
Django posted:

 

And to you and Carib and the Putagee Cain , Black people had a better life under the PPP government. 

 

I guess you are a black man and so expert on the fact that blacks benefitted more than Indians under the PPP. Do you know that there are blacks who claim that Indians benefitted more under the PNC than did blacks?

Their opinions disregard the lived experiences of Indians under the PNC, just as yours disregard those of blacks, especially under Jagdeo and Ramotar.  You do know that those projects in black villages were built by Indians who hired Indians, with blacks watching and remaining unemployed.

I did not know the contracts have a special clause that say blacks must be employed in black village. And you are lieing again... in black village, Indians don't wants to work because they get rob after finished working, as a result contractors hired Blacks. Maybe the unemployed was looking for handouts.  

Stop making up stories. 

FM
Gilbakka posted:

ATTENTION yuji22: Quit harassing Django immediately or me go put up da song bout yuh gyal from Rose Hall town and mek yuh cry fo dinner.

I don't think Django understands when he is being harassed.  He seems to enjoy it.  He comes on this site every day begging for punishment.   And he doesn't leave until his eyes start to spin out of control.

Bibi Haniffa
Imran posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks.

Burnham built the MMA and the main beneficiaries were Indians. What economic base did the PPP do for the black areas mentioned.  They did nothing when a privatized bauxite industry tossed 80% of the bauxite workers on the breadline. And don't be a moron and cite the black PPP soup licker who said otherwise.

Interesting how you agree with me until I discuss Indian racism.

Pity that you cannot remove beyond your tribal thinking and in fact prove that clannishness is a trait shared by large numbers of Indians.

MMA project helps both Indians and Africans , it also save blacks village from flooding... Hoptetown , Belladrum which are predominantly blacks village to name a few ...

Don't come peddle lies here ... you are getting caught. 

MMA was just too big to be an Indian-only benefit project.  It did create the infrastructure which was leverages by the rice farmers, true.  However, that was a strategic economic initiative with roots way back in pre-colonial Guyana.  The PPP actually initiated it in the 60's.

Guyana needs MMA part 2 to harness the fresh water and control flooding from rainfall run-off!

FM
yuji22 posted:
Gilbakka posted:

ATTENTION yuji22: Quit harassing Django immediately or me go put up da song bout yuh gyal from Rose Hall town and mek yuh cry fo dinner.

OK Bhai

 

One more thing, yuji22. You is me GNI best friend so I will be candid and straightforward with you. Drugb is the inventor of that term "slop can carrier". Stop being a copypoooose and invent your own term.

FM
caribny posted:

Django with due respect to you Indians were treated as inferiors during the Burnham era.  The only problem that I have with the Indo KKK on this topic is that blacks were treated as badly under the Jagdeo/Ramotar regime. While Cheddi had his Indian bias at least he wasn't as oppressive towards blacks as the brutes who followed him, starting with his wife.

First time you're actually making sense. Janet Jagan GAVE Guyana to Jagdeo.

GTAngler
Imran posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Most of what he stated seems reasonable, except where he went on his racist diatribe against the Indians with clannish and how the PPP neglected the blacks.

Burnham built the MMA and the main beneficiaries were Indians. What economic base did the PPP do for the black areas mentioned.  They did nothing when a privatized bauxite industry tossed 80% of the bauxite workers on the breadline. And don't be a moron and cite the black PPP soup licker who said otherwise.

Interesting how you agree with me until I discuss Indian racism.

Pity that you cannot remove beyond your tribal thinking and in fact prove that clannishness is a trait shared by large numbers of Indians.

MMA project helps both Indians and Africans , it also save blacks village from flooding... Hoptetown , Belladrum which are predominantly blacks village to name a few ...

Don't come peddle lies here ... you are getting caught. 

I can't believe I am doing this but in all fairness he did say "main" beneficiaries. However, I suppose if I had said, "Rice and Sugar were the backbone of MAINLY the Indo-Guyanese" I would not have been labelled racist? Yeah right. This chap is racist and anyone who defends his racist trash has a streak of racism in them. And I mean the ones who keep their mouths shut when he spews his bilge but agree with him. He says what they don't have the guts to come out and say.

GTAngler
yuji22 posted:
Gilbakka posted:

ATTENTION yuji22: Quit harassing Django immediately or me go put up da song bout yuh gyal from Rose Hall town and mek yuh cry fo dinner.

OK Bhai

I will start a truce and only condemn his pro AFC/PNC policies in a constructive manner.

He really ticked me off with the Boat Bramhana thread. He made a huge mistake but I forgive him now.

Peace. 

Ok bhai Yugi,

truce accepted,keep it clean.

The thread Boat Bramhana was for a reason,you can revisit why i reacted in such way if you care to.

Django
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Look at this slop can Carrier Django. He wants to join the PNC dog Shyte and deny that Indos suffered under the racist Afro led PNC dictators. 

This is complete eye pass.

Paging Django, come out here and talk like a man now !!!! Stop hiding under Grainjaw's skirt !!!!

You is another one who cut and run an have not experienced living under Burnham.

May i remind you to refrain from the name calling,it does not make you macho,unless you are a sissy and have mouth behind a key board.

Never lived under Burnham ? You must be out of your senses !!!

We were denied, electricity and drinking water because our two villages opposed the PNC dictatorship and stood up in 1973 to PNC soldiers who wanted to steal our ballot boxes.

Now Gwan Suh, Slop Can GirGira.

Burnham and Hoyte are the reasons why I resent the Dog Shyte PNC. These two men were dictators and riggers. 

Seems like at the age of 8yrs,you understood what was happening.

Good for you.

Django

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