from November last year . . . rerun on 6 Minutes tonight
Isn't that the man who does sell his paintings on the street in South London.
Tech giants like Google, Facebook, and PayPal are all steadily rolling out new-fangled services to turn our smartphones into digital wallets — replacing cash and checks. And it’s been reported that Apple is working on a new payment option to let iPhone users send money directly to one another — as easily as a text message.
If this all seems cutting edge, you may be surprised to learn there’s one country that adopted mobile money years ago: Kenya. Here in the U.S., we can use smartphones to pay for things, but you typically need to be linked to a bank account or credit card. In Kenya, you don’t need a bank account, you don’t need a credit history, or very much money for that matter, making this country in East Africa a giant experimental laboratory defining the future of money.
At a bus station in Nairobi, buses were not only loaded with humans and cargo, but with cash. It used to be the only way for people working in the cities to get money to relatives back in their remote villages.
Bob Collymore: You give the cash to the bus driver, and then you say, “When you get up to the village in Kakamega — you will see someone at the crossroads. Give the money to him.” Guess what happens? The money evaporates.
Bob Collymore, the CEO of Kenya’s largest cell phone provider, Safaricom, says his company sought to solve the problem. While a majority of Kenyans don’t have a bank account, eight in 10 have access to a cell phone. So in 2007, Safaricom started offering a way to use that cell phone to send and receive cash. They call it M-PESA: m stands for “mobile;” “pesa” is money in Swahili.
Bob Collymore: It is often referred to as Kenya’s alternative currency. But safer and more secure.
Lesley Stahl: You’re texting money?
Bob Collymore: You are effectively texting money.
“It is often referred to as Kenya’s alternative currency. But safer and more secure.”
Lesley Stahl: How sophisticated is the phone that you use for M-PESA? Is it a smartphone?
Bob Collymore: No, it’s the cheapest phone you can have. It was designed to work at the lowest level of technology.
To get this currency you go to an M-PESA kiosk. I give the agent 3,000 shillings — about $30 in cash, and she converts it to virtual currency on my account.
Lesley Stahl: This is pretty easy. It’s not like opening a bank account.
There are 85,000 agents like her across Kenya, creating a giant grid of human ATMs. For most this is a side business: so a pharmacy will sell M-PESA or a roadside spice shop; this barber will give you a shave and M-PESA. And, yes, you can even buy M-PESA here.
Bob Collymore: This is bankless banking.
Lesley Stahl: You don’t need all those branches.
Bob Collymore: You don’t need the branches.
Lesley Stahl: You don’t need the ATMs, windows.
Bob Collymore: Absolutely not. . . .
This approach was tried in India but it did not work. Indians did not trust it. It was like BS Rai.
Bob Collymore has a pretty Kenyan wife. The man did well.
So much talent in the diaspora both 1st and 2nd generation...And so we wait
Is this man related to the champions of socialism Clinton and Lloyd Collymore?