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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:

I'm sure the conclusion will be lawlessness from the protestors and over-reaction from the police resulted in the unfortunate incident.

Your racist nature will demand this.

Now, where did I ever invoke "race".

You always state race and then run and hide.  Like you expressed hope that the Buxton kid would not be exposed to black racists and then  pretended as if you didnt inject race into the discussion.

I was specific, racists like Caribj, Redux, Storm, etc.  You get your hands on the kid, you convert him to "you".

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by cain:

That would be bullshit baseman.

 

The questions remain:

Why were live rounds in the gun?

Who gave the order to shoot live rounds?

 

Those are the questions needing answers.

In the end, the conclusion would be aggressive and threatening protestors and over anxious police officers.  Both side will get a reprimand.

 

Given the presence of certain terrorist extremist elements in the crowds, the police were within their rights to have some live rounds.  However, this should never had been their first course of action.

 

Given the looting and burning of private and Govt property after, it's clear these protestors were aggressive.

There was ONE instance of looting where the perpetrators were caught and handed over to the police by Lindeners.  The burning of one Gov't building and one private truck took place AFTER the tear-gassing and shooting.  That Gov't buiding was the one to which security cameras led, and that would have clearly shown what took place.  Given that the Commissioner of Police (actg.) admitted the shooting was unjustified, it is the State that benefited from the burning down of that building.  All subsequent burning took place AFTER interventions by the disciplined services that included the tear-gassing of children and the elderly, and more shooting of people.

 

Just as there is a line of thought by Gov't apologists and ethnocentrists ("racists"), like you and Conscience here, that there were terrorist and extremist elements involved in the protests, there is another line of thought, I daresay a majority one (including segments of the Indian population), that it was the Gov't instead, who paid agent provocateurs to commit some of the dastardly acts during the period of protest.  Again, the only beneficiary of it appearing that black Guyanese are hooligans and terrorists, is the PPP, which relies on its ethnic support base to remain in power.  Conscience revealed the Gov't's thinking when he spoke of the X13 plan.  It is clear the PPP's injection of the events of the 1960s is a heinous attempt to bolster its dwindling ethnic support.

 

This time, however, it will not work.  Except for the few ethnocentric sheep left, like you, baseman, many Indians today are seeing the PPP for what they are.  Those people are not sheep, and are thinking for themselves.  They (the old, not so old and the young) have come to realise how the PPP from the time of Jagdeo has been using them for its own material gain.  

 

Once upon a time, you saw that too, baseman, but since you are a pathological enthocentrist, you've returned to your place of comfort.  Perhaps if the struggle was a class struggle, one where Indian was pitted against Indian, you would have found yourself in the right place.  But a struggle that straddles ethnicities, even though it is still largely a class struggle but in which the majority of victims are black, is unpalatable to you.  Sad.  Because you are very capable of helping in such a struggle...

FM

Look how this creep gmoney now try to dwab he shyte in the ppp butt. He rile up the people to riot then duck out of Linden when the fireworks start. I have a suspicion that this fool had his paid agents doing the shooting and blame it on police. They indeed got political mileage out of the Linden riot but it was the wrong kind of mileage which is likely see him returning to his flower garden to cry among the roses when his party lose all their seats.

FM

I'm mad that the rest of the country who are forced to $65 per kilowatt for electricity are not out on the streets protesting. Those bums in Linden are carrying out Highway Robbery on the Nation by paying a mere $5 per kilowatt.

 

 

Shame on the politicians who support this kind of thing. It is about time somebody does something about this injustice of the rest of the nation.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:

I'm sure the conclusion will be lawlessness from the protestors and over-reaction from the police resulted in the unfortunate incident.

Your racist nature will demand this.

Now, where did I ever invoke "race".

You always state race and then run and hide.  Like you expressed hope that the Buxton kid would not be exposed to black racists and then  pretended as if you didnt inject race into the discussion.

I was specific, racists like Caribj, Redux, Storm, etc.  You get your hands on the kid, you convert him to "you".

Here is an amoral moron calling others racists yet he is the one who constantly use his race as the bench mark of worth. Well that will not make the PPP clean or you a non racist. You are what you are and they what they are and you demonstrate that persistently. I am allergic to you folks and will constantly seek the social antigen to remove folks like you from relevance in the society. 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

I was specific, racists like Caribj, Redux, Storm, etc.  You get your hands on the kid, you convert him to "you".

And there you go again.  In your Indo Nazi world the only racists in Guyana are black and the only victims of racism are Indian.

 

So in your little Indo Nazi world the only issues of race with this boy is whther supposed black racists make him into one.

 

You do not consider whether his exposure to Indians who hate blacks might cause him to become skeptical of Indians in general.

 

You also do not consider the role that Indo Nazis like you, rev al, and others might cause some Indo boy to hate blacks.

 

The fact that you are so blind to the fact that racists in Guyana can be black or Indian, and that victims of racism can also be black or Indian is what makes you an Indo Nazi.  Only Indians matter in your world so the fact that there are Indo racists and black victims of this racism doesnt matter.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The commission of Inquiry continues,...... were the "peaceful protesters" completely "unarmed"?, there may be more than what initially meets the eye....were the "peaceful protesters" made up solely of Sunday School Boys and Girls?

As of now the police are busy passing the buck.  One says that another is a short hot tempered man and that Rohee bypasses him to talk to lower ranks and might have in this instance.

 

The other says that he has no control over ranks who came from G/twn.

 

Right now it looks like the police know they are to blame but just want to make sure that they are PERSONALLY held liable.

 

All the Indo Nazis led by druggie arent seeing this.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Look how this creep gmoney now try to dwab he shyte in the ppp butt. He rile up the people to riot then duck out of Linden when the fireworks start. I have a suspicion that this fool had his paid agents doing the shooting and blame it on police. They indeed got political mileage out of the Linden riot but it was the wrong kind of mileage which is likely see him returning to his flower garden to cry among the roses when his party lose all their seats.

You are becoming more and more stupid as the days go by.

 

First: Who the fluck is gmoney, do you see a gmoney posting here or did you post on another site and just confusing yourself?

 

Second: Dabbing shyte in the PPP butt is a complete waste of shyte, it should be dabbed in their mouths for good value.

 

Third: You are a dunce

cain
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

As of now the police are busy passing the buck.  One says that another is a short hot tempered man and that Rohee bypasses him to talk to lower ranks and might have in this instance.

 

The other says that he has no control over ranks who came from G/twn.

 

Right now it looks like the police know they are to blame but just want to make sure that they are PERSONALLY held liable.

 

All the Indo Nazis led by druggie arent seeing this.

There is no evidence that police shot the protesters/terrorists who were about the burn the bridge and kill the police. The poor Lindeners were riled up by outside agitators such as gerhard and others. When the riot got out of control none of the agitators were to be found according to the police. They start their mischief and then vanish.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

As of now the police are busy passing the buck.  One says that another is a short hot tempered man and that Rohee bypasses him to talk to lower ranks and might have in this instance.

 

The other says that he has no control over ranks who came from G/twn.

 

Right now it looks like the police know they are to blame but just want to make sure that they are PERSONALLY held liable.

 

All the Indo Nazis led by druggie arent seeing this.

There is no evidence that police shot the protesters/terrorists who were about the burn the bridge and kill the police. The poor Lindeners were riled up by outside agitators such as gerhard and others. When the riot got out of control none of the agitators were to be found according to the police. They start their mischief and then vanish.  


You are sitting in NJ saying that there is no evidence.  In the meantime the polic top rfanks in Guyana are scrambling over each otehr to nescape blame.

 

Now if the police didnt do this now would be the time to furnish evidence.  But instead one cop calls another cop a short and hot tempered man..and this cop claims that he had no control over the police men sent for G/Twn.  The first cop has also opened the door to suspicions that Rohee might have talked directly to the cop who allegedly issued the order to fire.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:

You are sitting in NJ saying that there is no evidence.  In the meantime the polic top rfanks in Guyana are scrambling over each otehr to nescape blame.

 

Now if the police didnt do this now would be the time to furnish evidence.  But instead one cop calls another cop a short and hot tempered man..and this cop claims that he had no control over the police men sent for G/Twn.  The first cop has also opened the door to suspicions that Rohee might have talked directly to the cop who allegedly issued the order to fire.

I reference what is coming out of the inquiry, according to the news reports there is no evidence. Your idea of evidence is hearsay and guilt by association.  You expect the police to prove that they didn't shoot? It is the other way around, there must be proof that the police shot and killed the terrorist, not that the police didn't shoot the terrorist.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

There is no evidence that police shot the protesters/terrorists who were about the burn the bridge and kill the police. The poor Lindeners were riled up by outside agitators such as gerhard and others. When the riot got out of control none of the agitators were to be found according to the police. They start their mischief and then vanish.  


You are sitting in NJ saying that there is no evidence.

And were are/were YOU siting to draw your conclusion over the head of the police force.  Stop being a hypocrite, stop throwing stones.

FM
Originally Posted by kidmost:

I said before and say it again the shots were not fired by GPF but by elements which sought to make this a crises which would spread across the country.

I agree with you and have been floating that possibility from the inception.  Survivors of the Buxton/Agricola terror gangs like those who pulled off Lusignan/Bartica are hiding out up there.  The police and people said there were members of an extremist group at the protest.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by kidmost:

I said before and say it again the shots were not fired by GPF but by elements which sought to make this a crises which would spread across the country.

 

Correct.

Just come out with it what you are thinking: the Phantoms wee sent to Linden by the PPP to gun down those protesters.

It's a plausible theory by you. Won't be the first time that the PPP tried to stir national trouble.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Henry:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by kidmost:

I said before and say it again the shots were not fired by GPF but by elements which sought to make this a crises which would spread across the country.

 

Correct.

It does look that way, doesn't it? Now, who would have a motive to do that?

Now, is that a rhetorical question?  This has all the fingerprints of old guard PNC.  Remember, it was the murder of a black couple by PNC and their agents which was used to trigger the mayhem against Indians in the 60's.

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:

the three highranking police officers is a disgrace to the force and come over like fools to the comm they is trying to tell the public these people maybe shoot them selfs the officer on the ground that claim he fire the shots should be charge for murder

I think the opposition extremists fired shots when things in the confusion and killed the protestors.  Problem, they may have used weapons similar to what the police had.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Henry:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by kidmost:

I said before and say it again the shots were not fired by GPF but by elements which sought to make this a crises which would spread across the country.

Correct.

It does look that way, doesn't it? Now, who would have a motive to do that?

Now, is that a rhetorical question?  This has all the fingerprints of old guard PNC.  Remember, it was the murder of a black couple by PNC and their agents which was used to trigger the mayhem against Indians in the 60's.

Interesting to follow.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

the three highranking police officers is a disgrace to the force and come over like fools to the comm they is trying to tell the public these people maybe shoot them selfs the officer on the ground that claim he fire the shots should be charge for murder

I think the opposition extremists fired shots when things in the confusion and killed the protestors.  Problem, they may have used weapons similar to what the police had.

The issues should be evident as the proceedings continue to the end.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

the three highranking police officers is a disgrace to the force and come over like fools to the comm they is trying to tell the public these people maybe shoot them selfs the officer on the ground that claim he fire the shots should be charge for murder

I think the opposition extremists fired shots when things in the confusion and killed the protestors.  Problem, they may have used weapons similar to what the police had.


What might be  the  probably motive(s)?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

the three highranking police officers is a disgrace to the force and come over like fools to the comm they is trying to tell the public these people maybe shoot them selfs the officer on the ground that claim he fire the shots should be charge for murder

I think the opposition extremists fired shots when things in the confusion and killed the protestors.  Problem, they may have used weapons similar to what the police had.


What might be  the  probably motive(s)?

Check my other response a just a few back n this same thread.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

the three highranking police officers is a disgrace to the force and come over like fools to the comm they is trying to tell the public these people maybe shoot them selfs the officer on the ground that claim he fire the shots should be charge for murder

I think the opposition extremists fired shots when things in the confusion and killed the protestors.  Problem, they may have used weapons similar to what the police had.


What might be  the  probably motive(s)?

Check my other response a just a few back n this same thread.

It seems that the PPP has more to benefit and could very well plant it's operatives to do the dirty job and make it looks like the PNC's. I am not saying that the PPP did it but the flip side of your course of reasoning  based on inconclusive evidence could very well be true. Let's wait on the outcome of the probe. 

 


 

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:

I think the opposition extremists fired shots when things in the confusion and killed the protestors.  Problem, they may have used weapons similar to what the police had.


What might be  the  probably motive(s)?

Check my other response a just a few back n this same thread.

It seems that the PPP has more to benefit and could very well plant it's operatives to do the dirty job and make it looks like the PNC's. I am not saying that the PPP did it but the flip side of your course of reasoning  based on inconclusive evidence could very well be true. Let's wait on the outcome of the probe.
 

I was just offering a plausible scenario based on the PNC past MO.  Given the viciousness of the attack, one could not rule out remnants of the Buxton/Agricola gangs.

FM

Mr. T

 

You have forgotten the two Berbicians killed by the PNC army when Granger was at the top helping Burnham rig elections.

 

They were shot and killed trying to prevent the ballot boxes being stolen by the PNC army. Yes, the PNC was a brutal and bloody dictatorship. 

 

I remember on election night when the army truck stopped in front of my home and one of these brave men was still alive alive even though he was shot and begging for water as the PNC soldiers kicked him to death. I will never forget.

 

And you wonder why there is so much hate for the PNC ? Shame on you.

 

You have easily forgotten your history. 

 

For your information, their names are Parmanand Bholanath and 17 years old Jagan Ramessar. Today they are known as the ballot box martyrs.

 

Burhnam and the PNC brainwashed you so much that you and future generations were shielded from the horrible acts that they committed. But I forgive your ignorance.

FM
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Bai remind me who Burnham is again. I heard he died half a century ago. In that time the PPP has committed mass murder in Agricola, tried to wipe out Linden, and invited drugs barons to take residence.

You got tp do better than repeating hearsay from 50 years ago. There are no news reports to back up any of your claims. These were political inventions by the PPP to scare Indo folks.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Bai remind me who Burnham is again. I heard he died half a century ago. In that time the PPP has committed mass murder in Agricola, tried to wipe out Linden, and invited drugs barons to take residence.

You got tp do better than repeating hearsay from 50 years ago. There are no news reports to back up any of your claims. These were political inventions by the PPP to scare Indo folks.

T:

If the PNC were still in power, there would have been a holocaust. The indians would have been wiped out by the negroes. The negroes still think Guyana solely belong to them and will go to the end of the earth to grab power.

I had a negro teacher who later became headmaster(he is now dead). On one of my visits to Guyana in the 80's,  I visited him at the school and we discussed Guyana. He was so dissapointed that he said to me "Boy when do you see a blackman ever run a country. Look at Africa they are all black and they eat each other out". What a statement!!!! Reality!!!!

 

The PNC can only regain power through terror. They can only dream of being in power.


 

FM

There is already a holocaust taking place and led by the PPP. The citizens have been fleeing in their hundreds of thousands since 1992. Those left behind have to dodge death every hour of their lives. The PPP sent hitmen disguised in police uniforms to shoot dead as many as they could. Is only through sheer luck and bad shooting skills why not many were slaughtered.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

There is already a holocaust taking place and led by the PPP. The citizens have been fleeing in their hundreds of thousands since 1992. Those left behind have to dodge death every hour of their lives. The PPP sent hitmen disguised in police uniforms to shoot dead as many as they could. Is only through sheer luck and bad shooting skills why not many were slaughtered.

Blame the PPP for negroes killing negroes? What a great thought.

You are such a piece of work!

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Bai remind me who Burnham is again. I heard he died half a century ago. In that time the PPP has committed mass murder in Agricola, tried to wipe out Linden, and invited drugs barons to take residence.

You got tp do better than repeating hearsay from 50 years ago. There are no news reports to back up any of your claims. These were political inventions by the PPP to scare Indo folks.

I need to remind you that Granger is the leader of the PNC. Right now as we speak. The PNC has not changed. Only their name is now different.

 

FM

So what if Granger is leader? The PPP has had no problem with installing Jagdeo as leader and eventual crime boss of the regime. More Guyanese citizens lost their lives under Jagdeo through crime than during any tenure of the PNC. As a matter of fact crime in general and theft of public money has been the largest under the PPP. The former president us even known to have been involved in protecting the identity of the killer or killers of a government minister. Those are crimes no PNC government ever committed.

So to claim things would be worse is a stark reminder to all Guyanese how terrible things really are.

Mr.T

Granger has blood on his hands. He would be sent to jail if an inquiry is held into election rigging and killing of Berbicians.

 

You proudly defend PNC terrorists and crooks. PNC will NEVER rule Guyana again. Get used to it.

 

Their sidekick, the AFC failed to incite terrorism and the PPP stands stronger than before. The AFC is finished.

FM

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