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Syria conflict: Kurds to declare federal system

 

 

Kurdish parties say they are planning to declare a new federal system in areas they control in northern Syria.

The Kurds already operate "autonomous administrations" in three enclaves bordering Turkey - Afrin and Kobane in Aleppo province and Jazira in Hassakeh.

The federal system would also include predominantly Arab and Turkmen areas captured from so-called Islamic State.

The idea was dismissed by Syrian government negotiators at peace talks in Geneva and by Turkey's government.

Both stressed the need to preserve Syria's national unity and territorial integrity.

'Unilateral decision'

Kurds made up between 7% and 10% of Syria's population of 24.5 million before the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad began five years ago.

Although they were denied basic rights and suffered decades of political suppression by the Arab-led state, most Kurds avoided taking sides when a wave of protests swept the country.

When government forces withdrew from Kurdish areas to concentrate on fighting predominantly Arab rebels elsewhere in mid-2012, Kurdish militias swiftly took control, led by the Popular Protection Units (YPG) of the Democratic Union Party (PYD).

In January 2014, the PYD and other Kurdish parties created autonomous administrations based in the enclaves, or "cantons", of Afrin, Kobane and Jazira.

They stressed at the time that they were not seeking independence from Syria, but "local democratic administration" within a federal framework.

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Image caption Kurdish officials said the federal system would represent all ethnic groups

In September 2014, the jihadist group Islamic State (IS) launched an assault on Kobane, prompting tens of thousands of people to flee to Turkey. With the help of US air power, the YPG regained control of the town after a four-month battle.

Since then, the YPG has inflicted a series of defeats on IS and established control over 26,000 sq km (10,000 sq miles) of Syria, according to one estimate, including a 400km (250-mile) stretch of territory along the Turkish border.

The plan to create a federal system to administer the three cantons and the territory captured from IS was circulated ahead of a meeting of about 200 Kurdish representatives in the town of Rmeilan on Wednesday.

Kurdish official Idris Nassan told the Reuters news agency that a federal arrangement would widen "the framework of self-administration that the Kurds and others have formed" and would represent all ethnic groups.

Image copyright Reuters
Image caption The Kurds have emerged as a key ally of the US-led coalition battle against IS

An official declaration was expected on Wednesday but was postponed for "logistical reasons" and because of concerns expressed by local Arab and Assyrian communities, according to the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

When asked about the Kurdish plan, the Syrian government's chief negotiator at the peace talks in Geneva said he would not comment on "unilateral statements coming from here and there".

But he warned: "Betting on creating any kind of divisions among the Syrians will be a total failure."

Turkey, which backs Syria's opposition and sees the PYD as an extension of the rebel Turkish Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), also rejected the idea.

"Syria's national unity and territorial integrity is fundamental for us. Outside of this, unilateral decisions cannot have validity," a foreign ministry official told Reuters.

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cain posted:
Drugb posted:

Why shouldn't the Kurds use this opportunity to correct centuries or wrong? Their were second class citizens in their own country, just like the Indians are in Guyana now. 

I thought Indians are Indians and not Guyanese, at least that's what we hear on this board by the racist PPP guys.

Indo Guyanese. Blacks refer to themselves similarly. Don't play stupid as you don't fit into either category. 

FM
Drugb posted:
cain posted:
Drugb posted:

Why shouldn't the Kurds use this opportunity to correct centuries or wrong? Their were second class citizens in their own country, just like the Indians are in Guyana now. 

I thought Indians are Indians and not Guyanese, at least that's what we hear on this board by the racist PPP guys.

Indo Guyanese. Blacks refer to themselves similarly. Don't play stupid as you don't fit into either category. 

Hear me again, the Indians (not the dirty 0nes) said right here that they are Indians,they got not a rass fo do with Guyana, they are Indians first so don't you rass play stupid and try change the past now.

Matter of fact dem dumb rass even try fo say they are Indo Venezuelans .

cain
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cain posted:
Drugb posted:
cain posted:
Drugb posted:

Why shouldn't the Kurds use this opportunity to correct centuries or wrong? Their were second class citizens in their own country, just like the Indians are in Guyana now. 

I thought Indians are Indians and not Guyanese, at least that's what we hear on this board by the racist PPP guys.

Indo Guyanese. Blacks refer to themselves similarly. Don't play stupid as you don't fit into either category. 

Hear me again, the Indians (not the dirty 0nes) said right here that they are Indians,they got not a rass fo do with Guyana, they are Indians first so don't you rass play stupid and try change the past now.

Matter of fact dem dumb rass even try fo say they are Indo Venezuelans .

What makes you think I speak for other posters? If they are disenchanted with Guyana under this Afro govt, then it is their prerogative to claim different citizenship. 

FM
Drugb posted:

Why shouldn't the Kurds use this opportunity to correct centuries or wrong? Their were second class citizens in their own country, just like the Indians are in Guyana now. 

You are funny. The Kurds are an ancient people who were incubated in the region and who were oppressed by both Arab and Turkic invaders. The Yazdis Christians are Kurdish stock also! Last time I check, Indians were of India and only recent transplants to Guyana. Guyana was not even a country so what land are you talking about? In any event, no one is denying them anything. The administration of the state is not an Indian entitlement! You have to win that at an election.

FM
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Drugb posted:
cain posted:
Drugb posted:

Why shouldn't the Kurds use this opportunity to correct centuries or wrong? Their were second class citizens in their own country, just like the Indians are in Guyana now. 

I thought Indians are Indians and not Guyanese, at least that's what we hear on this board by the racist PPP guys.

Indo Guyanese. Blacks refer to themselves similarly. Don't play stupid as you don't fit into either category. 

Black folks in Guyana have no supranational identity. They are stuck with the suffix "Guyanese" to identify themselves from those with supranational claims. 

FM
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
cain posted:
Drugb posted:

Why shouldn't the Kurds use this opportunity to correct centuries or wrong? Their were second class citizens in their own country, just like the Indians are in Guyana now. 

I thought Indians are Indians and not Guyanese, at least that's what we hear on this board by the racist PPP guys.

Indo Guyanese. Blacks refer to themselves similarly. Don't play stupid as you don't fit into either category. 

Black folks in Guyana have no supranational identity. They are stuck with the suffix "Guyanese" to identify themselves from those with supranational claims. 

That is because they are ashamed to refer to themselves as Blacks, a derogatory word.  

FM
Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:
Drugb posted:
cain posted:
Drugb posted:

Why shouldn't the Kurds use this opportunity to correct centuries or wrong? Their were second class citizens in their own country, just like the Indians are in Guyana now. 

I thought Indians are Indians and not Guyanese, at least that's what we hear on this board by the racist PPP guys.

Indo Guyanese. Blacks refer to themselves similarly. Don't play stupid as you don't fit into either category. 

Black folks in Guyana have no supranational identity. They are stuck with the suffix "Guyanese" to identify themselves from those with supranational claims. 

That is because they are ashamed to refer to themselves as Blacks, a derogatory word.  

You are a moron...straight up. Black people is nomenclature that was claimed in deference to the other that came laced with connotations. Black is beautiful resonated across the world and if you are ashamed of it because you are tar pit black you need counseling. 

FM

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