Keynote Address at GOPIO’s Annual Dinner in New York on 4/28/17 by Dr. Leslie Ramsammy.

caribny posted:
FC posted:

You keep calling out this nonsense when those dismissed were corrupt and incompetent but you are silent on the marginalization of blacks under the PPP. This is myth in your eyes. What a hypocrite!!!

Druggie screams that blacks loved the PPP because they got "milk in their tea".  This shows that he is a racist nut who considers blacks criminals, because it was a Hammie Greene thug who became a phantom who made that comment.

Aside from that he can furnish no proof that blacks under Jagdeo weren't excluded in favor of Indians.

Well, in all fairness, most average Blacks were much better off under the PPP than under the PNC.  Infact, the entire country was worse off under the PNC.  Blacks should be happy with the economy the PPP delivered.  They now have the PNC and getting nervous at what's looming!

ba$eman posted:
 
 

Well, in all fairness, most average Blacks were much better off under the PPP than under the PNC. 

The country began to improve under Hoyte. Cease being an ungrateful racist and thank him for forcing Jagan not being able to implement his Castroite nonsense. Had Burnham died and Jagan replaced him Guyana would still be a communist country, and you know that fully well.

 

caribny posted:
Prashad posted:

"We came as sojourners huddled and brutalized in ships and we reluctantly continue our sojourn leaving in jet planes."

 

 

Good speech.

Be glad that you didn't come as "farm animals" bereft of even deserving treatment as humans.

What ever narrative Indians can develop to paint themselves as victims Africans can go further.  The humiliation of the Transatlantic slave trade and its aftermath has no parallel in the Americas.

Bro, you should get over it. It is killing you, slowly. You can not see it, but those of us who read you every day can sense your sufferings.

Is really sad that at ur age you have so much bitterness.  

ba$eman posted:
caribny posted:
FC posted:

You keep calling out this nonsense when those dismissed were corrupt and incompetent but you are silent on the marginalization of blacks under the PPP. This is myth in your eyes. What a hypocrite!!!

Druggie screams that blacks loved the PPP because they got "milk in their tea".  This shows that he is a racist nut who considers blacks criminals, because it was a Hammie Greene thug who became a phantom who made that comment.

Aside from that he can furnish no proof that blacks under Jagdeo weren't excluded in favor of Indians.

Well, in all fairness, most average Blacks were much better off under the PPP than under the PNC.  Infact, the entire country was worse off under the PNC.  Blacks should be happy with the economy the PPP delivered.  They now have the PNC and getting nervous at what's looming!

How so?  Do you think the people of Allboystown, Agricola, Buxton,Linden lives really improved much compared to PPP oligarchs?

caribny posted:

In fact druggie you were the one ranting some time ago that civil servant and police jobs were for lazy black people as the pay is low.  So what are your current screams about. Indians do NOT want those jobs, which is why blacks kept them.

The jobs with the power and pay went to Indians and blacks were squeezed out.

Not correct, the civil servant jobs is a gateway to collecting bribes which dwarfs the salaries. The Blacks even today under Granger carries on this proud culture of bribe solicitation in their respective civil servants positions. In fact the few high level positions that Indians occupied were political appointments and paid a pittance when compared to the bribe + salary income of their black underlings.  

The difference today under Granger is that Indians in non political appointed positions are being replaced with Black PNC party faithful.  

Django posted:
Drugb posted:

The difference today under Granger is that Indians in non political appointed positions are being replaced with Black PNC party faithful.  

Very efficient fabulist,

seems like you are advising freedom house.

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Django posted:
Drugb posted:

The difference today under Granger is that Indians in non political appointed positions are being replaced with Black PNC party faithful.  

Very efficient fabulist,

seems like you are advising freedom house.

Rass bai, yuh using big words dat Gilly have to translate and you only had a 4th form education. 

If you really knew the situation in Guyana you would concur. Bribery and corruption is evasive in the civil service. Only a slop can carrier or a disconnected Guyanese would not acknowledge this fact.  Even the simplist of interaction with the government requires a bribe, or the pnc boys will use delay tactics to ensure that you come to your senses and pay up. Many here on GNI can testify to this, except you of course.

Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:

The difference today under Granger is that Indians in non political appointed positions are being replaced with Black PNC party faithful.  

Very efficient fabulist,

seems like you are advising freedom house.

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  1. a person who composes or relates fables.
    • a liar, especially a person who invents elaborate, dishonest stories.
       
    • Is this true, Drugb? YES or NO? Don't narrate.

I am detecting signs of a mental breakdown in several of these characters in the PNC camp. 

  • Drugb posted:

Excellent article by Dr Ramsammy.

People like d2, cain, caribj and the turncoats regard Indos as evil and interlopers.

Just as the first indentured laborers were treated as imposters and interlopers, their descendents today still struggle for equal citizenship in Guyana, still resist second-class treatment, still regarded as outsiders.

Do not reference me in your desire to spread bile. I do not care for Ramsammy. His speech may be to rise the indian pride but it also comes with slant and cant and undertones that is the hallmark of speech-making in the indian community . It is apparently a Ravi Dev toxic meme that is extolled as the basis of speech making in the Indian community these days.

I am too busy to address this in detail and you are too stupid to get beyond its naked pandering to see he is not one to emulate for a new vision about who Guyanese are to be. Note that is the fellow that facilitated the arming RK and providing him with the information platform that allowed him to murder so many Guyanese.

seignet posted:
 
 

Bro, you should get over it. It is killing you, slowly. You can not see it, but those of us who read you every day can sense your sufferings.

Is really sad that at ur age you have so much bitterness.  

Why don't you tell Ramsammy this. In fact tell him that his whole rant that Indians aren't accepted as Guyanese is a serious joke. A small cadre of Indians OWN Guyana, and the rest seem to live vicariously through this.

Stormborn posted:

Do not reference me in your desire to spread bile. I do not care for Ramsammy. His speech may be to rise the indian pride but it also comes with slant and cant and undertones that is the hallmark of speech-making in the indian community . It is apparently a Ravi Dev toxic meme that is extolled as the basis of speech making in the Indian community these days.

I am too busy to address this in detail and you are too stupid to get beyond its naked pandering to see he is not one to emulate for a new vision about who Guyanese are to be. Note that is the fellow that facilitated the arming RK and providing him with the information platform that allowed him to murder so many Guyanese.

Your hatred of Indians is well documented on this forum such that it is a foregone conclusion.  You may try to reinvent yourself elsewhere as a PPP supporter where your true colors is unknown, but those of us here know your wickedness.  

You as an outsider to the Indian community should not be so presumptious to speak for us. If we feel descriminated against then let us have our say as this feeling is rooted in our experiences with the Granger government whether you like it or not.  Do not attempt to stifle our voices.

Stormborn posted:
  • Drugb posted:

Note that is the fellow that facilitated the arming RK and providing him with the information platform that allowed him to murder so many Guyanese.

This mere fact will mean that Druggie will consider him to be a hero.

Drugb posted:
 

You as an outsider to the Indian community should not be so presumptious to speak for us. If we feel descriminated against then let us have our say as this feeling is rooted in our experiences with the Granger government whether you like it or not.  Do not attempt to stifle our voices.

I suggest that you take your own advice. You are an outsider to the black community and if we felt discriminated under the PPP then we have a right to say so. Our attitude towards the PPP and towards Indians in general is informed by this.

Drugb posted:
Stormborn posted:

Do not reference me in your desire to spread bile. I do not care for Ramsammy. His speech may be to rise the indian pride but it also comes with slant and cant and undertones that is the hallmark of speech-making in the indian community . It is apparently a Ravi Dev toxic meme that is extolled as the basis of speech making in the Indian community these days.

I am too busy to address this in detail and you are too stupid to get beyond its naked pandering to see he is not one to emulate for a new vision about who Guyanese are to be. Note that is the fellow that facilitated the arming RK and providing him with the information platform that allowed him to murder so many Guyanese.

Your hatred of Indians is well documented on this forum such that it is a foregone conclusion.  You may try to reinvent yourself elsewhere as a PPP supporter where your true colors is unknown, but those of us here know your wickedness.  

You as an outsider to the Indian community should not be so presumptious to speak for us. If we feel descriminated against then let us have our say as this feeling is rooted in our experiences with the Granger government whether you like it or not.  Do not attempt to stifle our voices.

I can and will never be a PPP supporter....unless all of its existing cadre of political quacks should suddenly fall down and die.  I see no hope for that party ever being qualified to govern in a long time.

I would be an outsider if you were one. I live in it like the fish in water because it is where all my connections in Guyana are established. It does not mean I should bend the knees to crooks in identifying as indians. Further, even if 99 percent of all indians were following these fellows over a cliff there should be one voice to salvage a few souls.

Nehru posted:

HAHAHA Indians DID not eat Dry Coconut, drink Trench water, Black water, Piwari and Cassave bread and still vote PPP. You people did that AND continue to do so. So look in the mirror before you make a fool of yourself!!!

I guess you can, by accident, on someday, make sense. It is, unfortunately, not today.

Stormborn posted:
Nehru posted:

HAHAHA Indians DID not eat Dry Coconut, drink Trench water, Black water, Piwari and Cassave bread and still vote PPP. You people did that AND continue to do so. So look in the mirror before you make a fool of yourself!!!

I guess you can, by accident, on someday, make sense. It is, unfortunately, not today.

OK let me simplify it for you.  IT IS THE PNC SUPPORTERS WHO EAT DRY COCONUT, GOT ENSLAVED AT HOPE ESTATE, REFUSE 14 DOLLARS MINIMUM WAGE SO THAT MASSA CAN GO TO ENGLAND AND CLEAN HIS TEETH, EAT RICE FLOUR BREAD WHILE MASS AND HIS FAMILY ATE WHEAT BREAD.  So be careful with your stupidity!!!

caribny posted:
seignet posted:
 
 

Bro, you should get over it. It is killing you, slowly. You can not see it, but those of us who read you every day can sense your sufferings.

Is really sad that at ur age you have so much bitterness.  

Why don't you tell Ramsammy this. In fact tell him that his whole rant that Indians aren't accepted as Guyanese is a serious joke. A small cadre of Indians OWN Guyana, and the rest seem to live vicariously through this.

 

Indians carry on with their lives knowing full well that they are not really Guyanese. As Guyanese they face persecution. Suh better to look for better places to live where they at peace whether among whites or blacks. As long as it is not Guyana. 

The Anti-Cooolie gang will never grasp the Indo fear and suffering. So mumbo Jumbo cooolie hate always comes through loud and clear.

Nehru posted:
Stormborn posted:
Nehru posted:

HAHAHA Indians DID not eat Dry Coconut, drink Trench water, Black water, Piwari and Cassave bread and still vote PPP. You people did that AND continue to do so. So look in the mirror before you make a fool of yourself!!!

I guess you can, by accident, on someday, make sense. It is, unfortunately, not today.

OK let me simplify it for you.  IT IS THE PNC SUPPORTERS WHO EAT DRY COCONUT, GOT ENSLAVED AT HOPE ESTATE, REFUSE 14 DOLLARS MINIMUM WAGE SO THAT MASSA CAN GO TO ENGLAND AND CLEAN HIS TEETH, EAT RICE FLOUR BREAD WHILE MASS AND HIS FAMILY ATE WHEAT BREAD.  So be careful with your stupidity!!!

All of that and you are not yet moved from your habitual confused babel.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 
 

Not correct, the civil servant jobs is a gateway to collecting bribes which dwarfs the salaries.

Stealing cents while the Indo oligarchs stole millions.

Yet not 1 Indo jailed after 2 years and umpteen forensic audits.  You make these scurrilous claims but excuse your brothers in the civil service as they shake down the defenseless public.  In fact the bribery at the civil service level has more impact in perception than most other forms of corruption.  All corrupt individuals should be jailed not just Indos. 

FC posted:
ba$eman posted:
caribny posted:
FC posted:

You keep calling out this nonsense when those dismissed were corrupt and incompetent but you are silent on the marginalization of blacks under the PPP. This is myth in your eyes. What a hypocrite!!!

Druggie screams that blacks loved the PPP because they got "milk in their tea".  This shows that he is a racist nut who considers blacks criminals, because it was a Hammie Greene thug who became a phantom who made that comment.

Aside from that he can furnish no proof that blacks under Jagdeo weren't excluded in favor of Indians.

Well, in all fairness, most average Blacks were much better off under the PPP than under the PNC.  Infact, the entire country was worse off under the PNC.  Blacks should be happy with the economy the PPP delivered.  They now have the PNC and getting nervous at what's looming!

How so?  Do you think the people of Allboystown, Agricola, Buxton,Linden lives really improved much compared to PPP oligarchs?

From what I know, they are exactly where they were during the PNC time.  The PPP cannot change that, neither the PNC, it's for the people!

Drugb posted:
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Yet not 1 Indo jailed after 2 years and umpteen forensic audits.  .

And why would they when Harmon is determined to steal as much as did your Indo oligarchs. 

To wail that some clerk handling your birth certificate stole more money than Jagdeo, a pauper in 1992, but yet a millionaire in US dollars by 2011.  You can do better than that.  How many of these lowly clerks are building lavish homes?  They steal so they can pay their rent.

ba$eman posted:
FC posted:

Druggie, patience is virtue. 

It will come full circle.  Before they can conjure up anything on the PPP, they themselves will be embroiled in their own corruption!

It's a slap in the face of justice when men like Stormy and TK, GNI's aces, have been sidelined and crooks like Larry Singh have been rewarded with multi-million dollar contracts. Even Warrior, a foot soldier for the PNC, left Guyana in frustration after building the first housing unit for APNU. If this is not corruption then please tell me what it is?

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
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Yet not 1 Indo jailed after 2 years and umpteen forensic audits.  .

And why would they when Harmon is determined to steal as much as did your Indo oligarchs. 

To wail that some clerk handling your birth certificate stole more money than Jagdeo, a pauper in 1992, but yet a millionaire in US dollars by 2011.  You can do better than that.  How many of these lowly clerks are building lavish homes?  They steal so they can pay their rent.

Speculation is not the same as fact. Keep braying without the requisite facts and you will conitnue to be considered a loose cannon.

Drugb posted:
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Speculation is not the same as fact. Keep braying without the requisite facts and you will conitnue to be considered a loose cannon.

Hmmm. So you don't think that it is a FACT that Jagdeo's salary and benefits couldn't allow him the conspicuous wealth that he began to display while he was president?

Listen even PPP supporters were fully aware of how corrupt they were. Their support for that party was due to their greater fear of black rule.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
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Speculation is not the same as fact. Keep braying without the requisite facts and you will conitnue to be considered a loose cannon.

Hmmm. So you don't think that it is a FACT that Jagdeo's salary and benefits couldn't allow him the conspicuous wealth that he began to display while he was president?

Listen even PPP supporters were fully aware of how corrupt they were. Their support for that party was due to their greater fear of black rule.

 Then jail him if you have the facts instead of speculating.  If you think that Jagdeo displayed wealth then you must not know what wealth is. But this is not surprising given your chafe in life subsisting off of govt assistance. 

Drugb posted:
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 Then jail him if you have the facts instead of speculating.  

Already told you that Jagdeo is busy teaching Harmon and others of the fine art of massive theft.  So why would they arrest him.  They started broke 2 years ago and are determined to be quite rich by 2020.

caribny posted:

Already told you that Jagdeo is busy teaching Harmon and others of the fine art of massive theft.  So why would they arrest him.  They started broke 2 years ago and are determined to be quite rich by 2020.

In other words you got nothing and are just flapping your gums, throwing shyte hoping that some will stick. I would advise you to come forward with the evidence and jail Jagdeo if he stole state funds. The PNC had their best and brightest investigate Jagdeo and the PPP for 2 years and have surfaced nothing untoward, siphoning off billions from the treasure to pay the fat cats in SARU. Much more than the entire PPP were supposed to have stolen. Maybe they should hire you so you can show them the evidence. 

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Already told you that Jagdeo is busy teaching Harmon and others of the fine art of massive theft.  So why would they arrest him.  They started broke 2 years ago and are determined to be quite rich by 2020.

In other words you got nothing and are just flapping your gums, throwing shyte hoping that some will stick. I would advise you to come forward with the evidence and jail Jagdeo if he stole state funds. The PNC had their best and brightest investigate Jagdeo and the PPP for 2 years and have surfaced nothing untoward, siphoning off billions from the treasure to pay the fat cats in SARU. Much more than the entire PPP were supposed to have stolen. Maybe they should hire you so you can show them the evidence. 

I suggest that you deliver evidence that a man earning what he did was able to amass the wealth that he has. Jagdeo was a poor man before 1992.   He is a wealthy man today.

So where did he amass this wealth?  Not on his President salary!

It is a known fact that Harmon is corrupt and it is also a known fact that he and Jagdeo are friends. Fill in the gaps you simpleton.

This racist Crabdawg Carib will not be happy until Indos return to Logies.

Indos can save, cut their belly, scrape and build houses. Take a look across Guyana and see for yourself. While some of his bothers are fettting, sporting and wasting, Indos are moving ahead.

The new racist PNC mantra is that Indos are thieves and drug dealers and that every time an Indo builds a house, they claim that Indo stole to build their homes. The is directly from the Racist Burnham Playbook.

This racist chap Carib is the poster boy for PNC racism.

caribny posted: 

I suggest that you deliver evidence that a man earning what he did was able to amass the wealth that he has. Jagdeo was a poor man before 1992.   He is a wealthy man today.

So where did he amass this wealth?  Not on his President salary!

It is a known fact that Harmon is corrupt and it is also a known fact that he and Jagdeo are friends. Fill in the gaps you simpleton.

To set a point of reference if we were to continue this discussion. Please indicate in dollars GY what is Jagdeo's wealth and how you came to this sum. Then we can delve into how he amassed this amount based on his own explanation years ago. 

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