Guyanese needed in Barbados to work.

 

Guyanese needed in Barbados


 

Barbadian Member of Parliament, Edmund Hinkson, wants Guyanese to boost the island’s agriculture, and has said that the country erred in sending back to Guyana a large number of these workers between 2008 and 2010.

Barbadian Parliamentarian, Edmund Hinkson

Barbadian Parliamentarian, Edmund Hinkson

Noting the decline in the island’s agriculture since the Guyanese were booted out, the Opposition Barbados Labour Party Parliamentarian has urged Prime Minister Freundel Stuart to use his close friendship with President David Granger to work out an arrangement where Guyanese with knowledge in agriculture could be brought to Barbados to work for specific periods.
Hinkson made the plea in the Barbados Parliament on Tuesday during a debate on a resolution for government to guarantee a loan of Bar$73 million (Bar$1 = US 50 cents) to its ailing sugar industry. He recalled that when the current government came to power in 2008, led by now deceased Prime Minister David Thompson, it embarked on a programme of mass deportation of Guyanese, many of whom had been working in agriculture production.
“So we sent home the Guyanese who were enhancing the agriculture sector of Barbados.
“So what is the policy now on this issue?” he asked, noting that in order to support the plan to use the $73 million in the sugar industry, it would need such workers, who are not now present on the island.
Hinkson spoke of Guyanese working prior to 2008 under the then Barbados Labour Party government, “and keeping that sector above water,” but he added, “They were discouraged. They were sent home to the detriment of the agriculture sector and other aspects of the Barbados economy”.
“These people were here spending money, paying rent, buying clothes, increasing the economy of Barbados.”
He advised Prime Minister Stuart – who received Guyana’s second highest honour, The Order of Roraima, in February – to ignore the position of the late Prime Minister Thompson, who Stuart succeeded, and devise a programme for getting Guyanese workers back on the island.
Hinkson noted that the Central Bank of Barbados has reported on a continued decline in agricultural production over recent years.
He said, “we can only urge the Prime Minister to look at this issue, and if it is that we need to bring in people from the Caribbean to work the agriculture industry under a regulated basis, not saying en masse, and a farm labour type programme for a few months a year, let us do that”.

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1. Bajans don't know agriculture. 2. Without the Guyanese Indians their economy is in decline. 3. It takes Bajans to appreciate Guyanese.4. Now there will be brain and labour DRAIN in Guyana. So Caribj can go to his Promised Land of Barbados and get a JOB because Granja after one and half year is only KILLING JOBS.

You will note that no mention was made of needing Guyanese in the more buoyant tourism and financial services sectors, or in the professions.

In fact Barbados has the highest % of people with post secondary education, at over 30%. So of course they want Guyanese to go do the back breaking work for pennies per day.

I really don't know why people are bursting in pride as this confirms that Guyanese are seen as mere mules. Good for back breaking low skilled and low paid work with limited future prospects.

caribny posted:
kp posted:

1. Bajans don't know agriculture. 2. Without the Guyanese Indians their economy is in decline. 3. It takes Bajans to appreciate Guyanese.4. Now there will be brain and labour DRAIN in Guyana. So Caribj can go to his Promised Land of Barbados and get a JOB because Granja after one and half year is only KILLING JOBS.

Agriculture plays a minimal role in the Barbados economy.  Only 3% of GDP and only 10% of the labor force.  Barbados has total exports of US$1/2 billion with sugar accounting for less than 10%.  And the economy is service oriented with tourism and financial services being the largest sectors, and with off shore business services also being important.

These are the sectors that Bajans gravitate to.  Cutting cane is seen as reminiscent of the bad old days when Barbados was much poorer than Guyana.

  In fact the reason why sugar is kept alive is ironically because of its tourism. Remove sugar cane and Barbados becomes a dry scrubby island like Antigua, without that islands marina vistas, as their beaches are more ordinary looking.

Sugar is loss making and makes scant direct contribution.

So yes Bajans want migrant workers doing jobs that no one else wants to do, and at low pay, just like how Americans like migrant workers from El Salvador and Guatemala.

I guess the landlords also missed packing 10 Guyanese into a home where one Bajan family would live, and then collecting double the rent that they would from a Bajan family.

 

Nehru posted:

A WELFARE receiving IDIOT will never have pride of hard work!  Parasite to Society!!!!

Nehru stop consuming that substance that hampers your judgment and go to Barbados and beg for a cane cutting job.

Now to show that GNI is an Indo KKK site you can abuse me, but if I outline what exact habits that you have that causes you to act as you do I will get banned.

But then the mantra of GNI is "black man lazy" so a steady pattern of abuse directed towards me calling me a welfare parasite doesn't lead to those who do so being banned.

Nehru posted:

Barbadios has people with brains running the Country. They know how PROGRESS is achieved. 

 

Caribj gun bytch now!!!!!!!!!!!

He wants the Guyanese version of the Mexican grass cutter and landscaper and pepper picker not the upscale worker. He wants grunts. We should not send him our people since they did not treat them well then and Barbados is still the worse place for Guyanese except for Trinidad and Tortola.  

Danyael posted:
Nehru posted:

Barbadios has people with brains running the Country. They know how PROGRESS is achieved. 

 

Caribj gun bytch now!!!!!!!!!!!

He wants the Guyanese version of the Mexican grass cutter and landscaper and pepper picker not the upscale worker. He wants grunts. We should not send him our people since they did not treat them well then and Barbados is still the worse place for Guyanese except for Trinidad and Tortola.  

Don't worry.  PPP frauds like PPP supporters to remain impoverished and abused.  Then they can scream "black man a kill ahbe" and win their votes.

I once read a book about Tortola. Virtually 3 chapters were dedicated to how "terrible" Tortolans think that Guyanese Indians are.  They put them at the bottom of the pile alongside Haitians and Dominicanos.  Pity that Guyana has been such a mess for the past 50+ years that many flee to these places. 

In Trinidad Guyanese slaves have actually been found, and on at least 2 occasions employers murdered Guyanese, because they demanded pay. The worst insult that a Trini (in Trinidad) can hurl is to call another Trini a "Guyanese", which is short hand for an underpaid menial worker.

In many of these islands upper middle class women tell each other about the "Guyanese" that they have. Extolling how "hard working" they are, boasting about how much work they get for how little pay. Its like their equivalents on CA and TX boasting about their "Mexicans".  Offering to help their friends find a "Guyanese" just as their US equivalent offer up a "Mexican".

Invariably these are Indians, as the blacks tend to fit better into the service sectors and the para professional roles.  In fact in Barbados and St Lucia sometimes being seen as long lost cousins descended from earlier migrations from those islands to "Demerara".

caribny posted:
Nehru posted:

A WELFARE receiving IDIOT will never have pride of hard work!  Parasite to Society!!!!

Nehru stop consuming that substance that hampers your judgment and go to Barbados and beg for a cane cutting job.

Now to show that GNI is an Indo KKK site you can abuse me, but if I outline what exact habits that you have that causes you to act as you do I will get banned.

But then the mantra of GNI is "black man lazy" so a steady pattern of abuse directed towards me calling me a welfare parasite doesn't lead to those who do so being banned.

When you can respect an honest day's work for an HONEST living ( Pick Pocketing does not count) then you can come and preach about Guyanese Indians.

caribny posted:

You will note that no mention was made of needing Guyanese in the more buoyant tourism and financial services sectors, or in the professions.

In fact Barbados has the highest % of people with post secondary education, at over 30%. So of course they want Guyanese to go do the back breaking work for pennies per day.

I really don't know why people are bursting in pride as this confirms that Guyanese are seen as mere mules. Good for back breaking low skilled and low paid work with limited future prospects.

You will note that in fact the whites are the ones in the professional jobs.  The Bajans are known to be lazy. That is why the country look to Jamaica and Guyana for their labour resouces, while  Bajans settle for store clerk jobs working for Indian bosses.

Nehru posted:
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When you can respect an honest day's work for an HONEST living ( Pick Pocketing does not count) then you can come and preach about Guyanese Indians.

I see the Indo KKK is at work.  You really need to be insulted that Bajans see Guyanese as human mules, but apparently this is how you see yourself with your slavish devotion to your PPP slave masters.

Drugb posted:
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You will note that in fact the whites are the ones in the professional jobs. .

Whites in Barbados are but a mere 2% of the population. 90% of the population works in industry, tourism or other parts of the service sector.

35% of the population have had post secondary education. Obviously the vast majority will be blacks.

Jamaicans and Guyanese are seen as human mules, and treated as such. Ask Guyanese and Jamaicans trying to enter into Barbados as to how "well" they are treated.

Employers love this as exploitation of low skilled workers who are desperate, is always good for the bottom line.  Both Guyanese and Jamaicans are also well involved in the sex trade.

Get back to me when a Bajan is asking for Guyanese to staff the more lucrative parts of the Bajan economy. To most Bajans sugar is about slavery and best forgotten. They think it appropriate that modern day slaves (which is what PPP supporters often are in the Islands) do the work.  Vincentians and St Lucians used to, but even they no longer do so.

caribny posted:

Whites in Barbados are but a mere 2% of the population. 90% of the population works in industry, tourism or other parts of the service sector.

35% of the population have had post secondary education. Obviously the vast majority will be blacks.

Jamaicans and Guyanese are seen as human mules, and treated as such. Ask Guyanese and Jamaicans trying to enter into Barbados as to how "well" they are treated.

Employers love this as exploitation of low skilled workers who are desperate, is always good for the bottom line.  Both Guyanese and Jamaicans are also well involved in the sex trade.

Get back to me when a Bajan is asking for Guyanese to staff the more lucrative parts of the Bajan economy. To most Bajans sugar is about slavery and best forgotten. They think it appropriate that modern day slaves (which is what PPP supporters often are in the Islands) do the work.  Vincentians and St Lucians used to, but even they no longer do so.

As usual you are incorrect, the bajans are fleeing to the US as they can't even get the jobs in their own country.  I know quite a few of them doing blue collar but honest work. In fact even in the IT industry I have encountered more Guyanese Blacks and yet to find a Bajan.  Overall the Guyanese Blacks are way more successful than the Bajans in the US despite their high roles in criminality in Guyana.

Drugb posted:
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As usual you are incorrect, the bajans are fleeing to the US as they can't even get the jobs in their own country.  I know quite a few of them doing blue collar but honest work. In fact even in the IT industry I have encountered more Guyanese Blacks and yet to find a Bajan.  Overall the Guyanese Blacks are way more successful than the Bajans in the US despite their high roles in criminality in Guyana.

Really. Bajans are fleeing?  Really? So why is there net migration INTO Barbados. Shouldn't there be net migration OUT of Barbados if Bajans are fleeing?

And are you dumb that you will base the success of a group based on who you know? Suppose successful Bajans have no interest in being around an idiot like you? So you will not meet them.

In fact Jamaica, Guyana and Haiti have the highest brain drain in the Caribbean as these are the 3 poorest (aside from the DR).  Successful Bajans have no need to leave that island. Why will they put up with all of the risks and uncertainties of migration if their lives are fine?

You have no idea how well Bajans are doing in the USA.   Statistics indicate that while around 60% of Bajans with tertiary degrees have migrated to OECD nations(low by Caribbean standards) 90% of their Guyana equivalent has. And in the case of Guyana it gets worse as many have also migrated to other parts of the Caribbean.

Folks, if Barbados is seeking labor for its agricultural sector from Guyanese, it's because that's where the work is mosty needed. Low skilled job is a job that is open to anyone who is willing to work and get paid, regardless of your qualifications.

Cobra posted:

Folks, if Barbados is seeking labor for its agricultural sector from Guyanese, it's because that's where the work is mosty needed.

It is where they cannot find people to work. Barbados has 10% unemployment so there are no shortage of workers but Bajans don't plan to work for pennies when they think that better jobs are available.

Now imagine a Bajan who wants a service job at the interview saying that he was cutting cane for 3 years and now wants a service sector job. He will be laughed out of the room.  Just like an American seeking a job at a bank, who disclosed that he is currently picking tomatoes and plucking chickens.

I know that you PPP supporters want to feel good about yourselves. Need to feel that "black man lazy" and Indians are "saving" Barbados.  Sugar in Barbados is almost dead and only semi slaves want to work there.

Of course you can discuss amongst your PPP selves why Guyanese in 2008 preferred to cut cane in Barbados instead of Guyana.

And understand this. The worst insult that a Bajan can hurl is to call some one "cane cutter" given that this was traditionally a sure fire way to perpetual poverty.

Every article you write is race base, Indo KKK, this, Indo KKK that,You are an underprivileged black boy still struggling to find your identity  and envy the success of the INDIAN RACE. I guess you hate yourself. You are the only one that says over and over again "black man lazy" I don't know that but you seems to know for sure.

I am in favour of Guyanese canecutters securing similar jobs in Barbados as MIGRANT WORKERS. Canecutting is a skill. The work is seasonal, meaning that there is no pay some months every year. I see nothing wrong with him working in Barbados canefields to supplement his income in Guyana. As a rule in many countries, migrant workers are housed in barrack/communal conditions. That is the reality. Provided that a Guyanese canecutter has no plans to settle permanently in Barbados, he has no cause to worry about social stigma. A canecutter earns an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. That's the source of his dignity. This has nothing to do with PPP or PNC. 

Gilbakka posted:

I am in favour of Guyanese canecutters securing similar jobs in Barbados as MIGRANT WORKERS. Canecutting is a skill. The work is seasonal, meaning that there is no pay some months every year. I see nothing wrong with him working in Barbados canefields to supplement his income in Guyana. As a rule in many countries, migrant workers are housed in barrack/communal conditions. That is the reality. Provided that a Guyanese canecutter has no plans to settle permanently in Barbados, he has no cause to worry about social stigma. A canecutter earns an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. That's the source of his dignity. This has nothing to do with PPP or PNC. 

Canada has a big migrant worker program, lots of workers come from the small Islands such as St Lucia, Grenada, Antigua and even Jamaica. They can withstand the Summer heat to work in the fields doing farm work.

Gilbakka posted:

I am in favour of Guyanese canecutters securing similar jobs in Barbados as MIGRANT WORKERS. Canecutting is a skill. The work is seasonal, meaning that there is no pay some months every year. I see nothing wrong with him working in Barbados canefields to supplement his income in Guyana. As a rule in many countries, migrant workers are housed in barrack/communal conditions. That is the reality. Provided that a Guyanese canecutter has no plans to settle permanently in Barbados, he has no cause to worry about social stigma. A canecutter earns an honest day's pay for an honest day's work. That's the source of his dignity. This has nothing to do with PPP or PNC. 

They do not treat our people well. If there are agreements and protections that fair wages will be paid then one would gladly agree. But these people extract work for little or no pay and at the end of it the worker has very little to show for his or her labor.

Guyana does not take care of its own people at home. It is lax en enforcement of labor laws and have neglected to look into the labor practices of the mining sector, the lumber industry and more recently the heart of palms harvesting. The Malaysians were horrible and the Chinese were worse. I believe it is a dutch firm ( but not sure) that harvests hearts of palm. As an aside, we see the lack of protections for rice farmers against the robbery at the hands of millers.

The government turned a blind eye to labor complaints and decades of neglect has ensued.  I doubt you can expect them to oversee wages in alien lands.

caribny posted:

Really. Bajans are fleeing?  Really? So why is there net migration INTO Barbados. Shouldn't there be net migration OUT of Barbados if Bajans are fleeing?

And are you dumb that you will base the success of a group based on who you know? Suppose successful Bajans have no interest in being around an idiot like you? So you will not meet them.

In fact Jamaica, Guyana and Haiti have the highest brain drain in the Caribbean as these are the 3 poorest (aside from the DR).  Successful Bajans have no need to leave that island. Why will they put up with all of the risks and uncertainties of migration if their lives are fine?

You have no idea how well Bajans are doing in the USA.   Statistics indicate that while around 60% of Bajans with tertiary degrees have migrated to OECD nations(low by Caribbean standards) 90% of their Guyana equivalent has. And in the case of Guyana it gets worse as many have also migrated to other parts of the Caribbean.

So the truth comes to light, you are not such an expert on Barbados as you claim after all.   The Bajans flee and the rest of the Caribbean fill the void. If the Bajans did not flee then there would be no need for foreign workers. 

I personally know a few Bajans and they are all blue collar workers. Can you say the same for yourself?

I was on my back to the hotel when I stopped and picked up a young Bajan lady. She waved me down to give her a drop home. It was around 5:30 in the afternoon.  She was on her way home from work.  I asked her where she works.  She told me she does,domestic work for a family meaning cleaning, cooking, and taking care of the kids.  At Bathsheba beach I met an Indian family. The young father works for Barclay's Bank doing computer related work... a trained engineer.  I also met a Bangladeshi national on a scooter who cooks for a restaurant on the island. hotels and banks bring in some of their workers to work on the island.  I found a Trinidadian Indo selling water coconuts and a Venezuelan working on the Atlantis submarine.  Many Guyanese does carpentry on the island.  Indians from guyana are not stupid.  They only do low paying jobs for a while. They are quick to better themselves.  It's something that fascinates other group just like how Indians are fascinated by Chinese hard work and progress. 

kp posted:

Every article you write is race base, Indo KKK, this, Indo KKK that,

If certain people who happen to be Indian write nonsense taken from the KKK then they will be called Indo KKK.  And that includes all the screaming about black laziness and black criminality and assertions that Indians are superior.

In fact your assertion that I should envy Indians is an example of this. Now why should I envy Indo Guyanese when every statistic, including those provided by the PPP, indicate that they are NOT better off?

A Bajan wants Indians to do work that Bajans refuse to do, in a part of the economy which is of declining significance.

Now I would have thought that you would tell him to haul his ass and that Indo Guyanese aren't there to be cheap labor in dead end jobs, but you see desperate to scream that blacks are lazy and cannot do without Indians that you fall for this scam!

Drugb posted:
 

   The Bajans flee and the rest of the Caribbean fill the void. If the Bajans did not flee then there would be no need for foreign workers. 

 

In fact I showed you that educated Bajans are way less likely to flee that island than educated Guyanese are.

Yet you still rant your nonsense.

If I were to break down time of migration the point gets even more stark. Most Bajans living in the USA arrived in the 60s and 70s. After the 90s there was a sharp drop in migration from Barbados.

So what really is your point.

And to repeat the fact that you know 2 Bajans in construction and none in professional jobs just makes my point.  Those Bajans who can do better stay home. And in fact many Bajan professionals living in the USA return home.  I have NEVER met a Bajan living in NYC who doesn't have a home built on that island, even those who rent here.

With over 30% of the Bajan population having post secondary education the fact that you don't know many of them makes my point doesn't it. 

I am willing to bet that I know more Bajans than you do, given that you hate blacks, so only hang out with the low life types, as these serve to confirm your stereotypes.

 

Danyael posted:
Nehru posted:

Barbadios has people with brains running the Country. They know how PROGRESS is achieved. 

 

Caribj gun bytch now!!!!!!!!!!!

He wants the Guyanese version of the Mexican grass cutter and landscaper and pepper picker not the upscale worker. He wants grunts. We should not send him our people since they did not treat them well then and Barbados is still the worse place for Guyanese except for Trinidad and Tortola.  

Do not blame the Bajans.

Guyana is not doing well all because of the previous Government who was more concerned about filling their pockets.

This c u r rent Government seems not to far away neither.

Guyana is such an underpopulated nation, lacking in critical mass and always a shortage of skills.  Imagine the failure in Guyana where there is excess low-skilled labors, in an underpopulated nation, who seek the bottom of the barrel jobs in Barbados!

There is no glory in the fact that Barbados is seeking Guyana's bottom of the barrel labor force to fill their bottom of the barrel jobs!  This makes Guyana, by definition, a basket-case!

 

kp posted:

Canada has a big migrant worker program, lots of workers come from the small Islands such as St Lucia, Grenada, Antigua and even Jamaica. They can withstand the Summer heat to work in the fields doing farm work.

This is what Trump intends to have in the US in areas of farming and some construction, maid service, etc.  This will replace undocumented workers.  They will come through the beautiful big DOORS in the big beautiful tall WALL!!

caribny posted:

In fact I showed you that educated Bajans are way less likely to flee that island than educated Guyanese are.

Yet you still rant your nonsense.

If I were to break down time of migration the point gets even more stark. Most Bajans living in the USA arrived in the 60s and 70s. After the 90s there was a sharp drop in migration from Barbados.

So what really is your point.

And to repeat the fact that you know 2 Bajans in construction and none in professional jobs just makes my point.  Those Bajans who can do better stay home. And in fact many Bajan professionals living in the USA return home.  I have NEVER met a Bajan living in NYC who doesn't have a home built on that island, even those who rent here.

With over 30% of the Bajan population having post secondary education the fact that you don't know many of them makes my point doesn't it. 

I am willing to bet that I know more Bajans than you do, given that you hate blacks, so only hang out with the low life types, as these serve to confirm your stereotypes.

 

Your lies are in direct conflict with the testimonial of others.  The successful Bajans are the whites, while the Blacks settle for the crumbs thrown their way. Read BRB post above and ketch some sense. You quote ficticious statistics while the testimonials says otherwise.  In fact there are successful black bajans in the entertainment, public service and sports industry, which is stereotypical of Blacks in general. However this is not the case of the vast majority who settle for low paying blue collar work. 

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

I was on my back to the hotel when I stopped and picked up a young Bajan lady. She waved me down to give her a drop home. It was around 5:30 in the afternoon.  She was on her way home from work.  I asked her where she works.  She told me she does,domestic work for a family meaning cleaning, cooking, and taking care of the kids.  At Bathsheba beach I met an Indian family. The young father works for Barclay's Bank doing computer related work... a trained engineer.  I also met a Bangladeshi national on a scooter who cooks for a restaurant on the island. hotels and banks bring in some of their workers to work on the island.  I found a Trinidadian Indo selling water coconuts and a Venezuelan working on the Atlantis submarine.  Many Guyanese does carpentry on the island.  Indians from guyana are not stupid.  They only do low paying jobs for a while. They are quick to better themselves.  It's something that fascinates other group just like how Indians are fascinated by Chinese hard work and progress. 

The story of Indians the world over.  This is why the PNC saw it necessary to implement apartheid and take the zeal out of the Indian dreams and frustrate them into social decadence!

Leonora posted:

BRB proved Caribny to be a big liar. Folks, don't believe anything from this person who is paid to spread ugly lies.

That banna has been doing that for years.  Sometimes he takes a thread for fact and build a web of lies and expect to make his case against a people!

Drugb posted:
 

Yes I should read the rantings of a man who hates blacks as you do?

FACT.  There is a vibrant small and mid sized black owned business sector on that island.  Now this causes you stress and mental collapse because it destroys your racist notion of blacks as losers.

FACT. With whites at only 2% of the population the vast majority of those who occupy executive and managements slots on that island are BLACK.

FACT. If you dispute that a 1/3 of the population have had post secondary education and the majority of Bajans living in the USA arrived in the 60s and 70s then post stats that say otherwise.

Druggie you are known as a class idiot and a dunce so your opinions matter not, and the fact that you cite a racist dunce like BRB as evidence just confirms this.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Yes I should read the rantings of a man who hates blacks as you do?

FACT.  There is a vibrant small and mid sized black owned business sector on that island.  Now this causes you stress and mental collapse because it destroys your racist notion of blacks as losers.

FACT. With whites at only 2% of the population the vast majority of those who occupy executive and managements slots on that island are BLACK.

FACT. If you dispute that a 1/3 of the population have had post secondary education and the majority of Bajans living in the USA arrived in the 60s and 70s then post stats that say otherwise.

Druggie you are known as a class idiot and a dunce so your opinions matter not, and the fact that you cite a racist dunce like BRB as evidence just confirms this.

l sorry for you as your bubble is burst. For years you were fooled into believing that there was a Afro modern day Mali in Barbadoes.

Drugb posted:
 

l sorry for you as your bubble is burst. For years you were fooled into believing that there was a Afro modern day Mali in Barbadoes.

How did my bubble burst. Here is it that the only use Bajans have for your folks is to do slave work under slave conditions.

Most assured that blacks in Barbados are doing much better than was the average Indian under YOUR PPP.

That is why prior to 2008 so many fled to Barbados to do work that no one else wanted do. Not even Vincentians.

You ought to be embarrassed that the lowest job in Barbados is all Bajans see PPP supporters as being fit for.  The black Guyanese tend to be nurses and other para professional work.

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