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Jan.15,2018

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Guyana needs a new political party which will seek the support of the groups that the Alliance for Change (AFC) has disappointed, according to commentator Ralph Ramkarran. In his column which appeared in yesterday’s Sunday Stabroek, Ramkarran cited the failure of the main political groups: PNC/APNU+AFC and the PPP/C to break the ethno-political divide that has gripped the country for decades. Ramkarran who was a member of the PPP for nearly 50 years before quitting said it appears that for those who believe that the end of the culture of ethno-political dominance is a pre-requisite for Guyana’s progress, that a political struggle would have to be carried out to encourage the political parties to accept such a course. Does such a struggle have a reasonable chance of success? he asked. “Guyana’s political landscape is changing and new possibilities now exist. The mixed middle class is now 19 per cent and it has within it a large contingent which is opposed to the ‘racial politics’ of the two main parties. It is this group, together with disaffected PPP and PNC supporters which gave the Alliance for Change (AFC) its oxygen. The failure of the AFC to bridge the racial gap in politics as promised, or to influence APNU in any way, much less implementing constitutional reform, has signalled the end of the AFC’s influence in the coalition and its electoral support”, Ramkarran declared.

He said that the new party should have two objectives: “to win the support of the majority of the electorate and if not, to bring the support of both of the main political parties to below 50 per cent. If such a party gains an absolute majority, it will form a national unity government. If not, it will never join a government of either of the main parties and will provide all the necessary guarantees to the public that it will not do so. It will, however, give its support to that party which supports constitutional reform to bring about the end of the culture of ethno-political dominance as well as other economic and social policies that have national consensus”.

Ramkarran, a former two-term Speaker of the National Assembly, said that developments since the AFC’s abandonment of its agenda of bridging the racial gap has proved that there still exists that critical mass of voters who continue to be moved by the desire to eradicate from Guyana’s politics the deleterious effects of the culture of ethno-political domination.

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which will seek the support of the groups that the Alliance for Change (AFC) has disappointed.

What de rass? Another political party which has a chance of getting maybe 5% of the AFC votes, IF THE 2020 ELECTION IS NOT RIGGED?

GUYANA VOTES ON RACE. There is an uneasy disrespect between Indians and Africans for each other.

FM

That’s neither here nor there.  As long as coalition cannot be formed after election, the point is mute.  On the other hand, back in 2011, I told the AFC let’s use our swing to our advantage and work with the PPP.   But them bais preferred to use it against the PPP.   That was a big blunder.   If they did that, the PPP would be in Power and the AFC would have sway.   Amelia would have been a good test case.  BJ wanted it bad and the AFC could have delivered!

Baseman

It was BJ and Rawmouhtar who wanted nothing to do with the AFC. They were the ones who were ready to annihilate them, creating all kinds of unflattering labels and whereas the PNC was having a dialog with them to share the power.

Mitwah
Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I like the idea of a third force  holding the balance of power.

Nagamootoo destroyed the AFC.  He was all about himself!

Which politician in Guyana is not about himself or herself?

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I like the idea of a third force  holding the balance of power.

Nagamootoo destroyed the AFC.  He was all about himself!

Which politician in Guyana is not about himself or herself?

Agreed. However, this does not give politicians the right to ignore the plights of its citizens. What happens if all the citizens refuse to work and pay taxes? Would there be politicians?

FM
Mitwah posted:

It was BJ and Rawmouhtar who wanted nothing to do with the AFC. They were the ones who were ready to annihilate them, creating all kinds of unflattering labels and whereas the PNC was having a dialog with them to share the power.

Ramotar was more flexible. Believe me, when BJ saw the only path for Amelia was thru the AFC, he would have played ball!!  It’s all political brinkmanship!   BJ is an obstinate mule, but he wanted Amelia!

Baseman
skeldon_man posted:
Mitwah posted:
Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

I like the idea of a third force  holding the balance of power.

Nagamootoo destroyed the AFC.  He was all about himself!

Which politician in Guyana is not about himself or herself?

Agreed. However, this does not give politicians the right to ignore the plights of its citizens. What happens if all the citizens refuse to work and pay taxes? Would there be politicians?

I know for a fact, Ramjattan did not want to join the PNC.  But Nagamatoo came on board and worked with the pro PNC faction on the AFC to join up with the PNC!  Ramjattan wanted what baseman wanted, remain an independent swing!

Baseman

I agree with Ramkarran, but no old head politicians from either the PNC/PPP/AFC. These parties are disease infested to rule a country. I don't know why Ramkarran didn't lead the way toward a new party. 

FM
Nehru posted:

Prince, Ramkarran himself is a Dinosaur

So, all political party must have crooks and thieves? Lord have mercy. I have done with Guyana. I will stay in Trump America and eat salt and rice. 

FM
Baseman posted:

That’s neither here nor there.  As long as coalition cannot be formed after election, the point is mute.  On the other hand, back in 2011, I told the AFC let’s use our swing to our advantage and work with the PPP.   But them bais preferred to use it against the PPP.   That was a big blunder.   If they did that, the PPP would be in Power and the AFC would have sway.   Amelia would have been a good test case.  BJ wanted it bad and the AFC could have delivered!

Base the Coalition was selected to govern the country.

Maybe AFC with PPP could have influence the ABC countries .

The coalition government don’t give a damn what anyone say about them, they are protected by the Americans . 

It would be 100 plus years before a third party make an impact. It’s all about PPP and PNC in Guyana’s politics. 

In Berbice, only a handful of people hate Jagdeo , no one dare speak ill of him  ... Berbicians  will kill you .. so to speak .

The AFC has betray the trust of the Guyanese millinum. 

From personal experience recently,members of  the coalition don’t trust each other.

FM

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