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Granger disappointed with Ramjattan’s planned absence at Friday’s rally

November 18, 2014 1:13 pm Category: latest news A+ / A-

 

By Kurt Campbell

Leader of the Opposition, David Granger.

Leader of the Opposition, David Granger.

 

[www.inewsguyana.com] – Opposition Leader David Granger’s hopes were dashed when Leader of the minority Parliamentary Opposition – the Alliance for Change (AFC) – Khemraj Ramjattan and AFC Executive Member, Moses Nagamoottoo refused to attend a rally to which they were invited to on Friday last.

 

Granger told iNews this morning that he was disappointed since he had hoped that either Ramjattan or Nagamootoo would have attended the rally, organized by his Party – A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) – condemning President Donald Ramotar’s Decision to prorogue Parliament ahead of a debate on a No Confidence Motion against his administration.

 

“When we had decided that we were going to invite the AFC, I had hoped that Nagamootoo and Ramjattan would have been there at the rally and participated,” he said; adding that “this can no longer be seen as a Party struggle but national movement to bring about better governance in the country.”

 

In response to some of his supporters on Facebook who criticized him for staying away from the rally, the AFC Leader explained that his attendance at the rally would have been “spun and twisted by the propagandists in the PPP,” and that he did not want to be on the platform of an opposing Party.

 

This this end, Granger said he is personally not offended by Ramjattan’s statements.

“Ramjattan knows what’s best for his Party and I wouldn’t criticize his decision… in any event the rally was held, the AFC attended and the remarks resonated with the entire audience of several thousand Guyanese.”

Leader of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan. [iNews' Photo]

Leader of the AFC, Khemraj Ramjattan. [iNews' Photo]

 

Present at the joint rally was Chairman of the AFC, Nigel Hughes and General Secretary, David Patterson, who both shared the platform with the APNU Leader.

 

Also present at the rally were Members of Parliament Cathy Hughes, Valerie Garida Lowe and Trevor Williams.

It should be noted that both Nagamootoo and Ramjattan were once members of the ruling People’s Progressive Party (PPP) but left after several disagreements.

 

Nagamootoo was reportedly engaged in a social media meeting at the time of the rally.

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Originally Posted by Cobra:
“When we had decided that we were going to invite the AFC, I had hoped that Nagamootoo and Ramjattan would have been there at the rally and participated,” he said; adding that “this can no longer be seen as a Party struggle but national movement to bring about better governance in the country.”

 

 

Granger disappointed with Ramjattan’s planned absence at Friday’s rally, November 18, 2014 1:13 pm Category: latest news A+ / A-, By Kurt Campbell

Perhaps, they lost their way to the function.

FM

In response to some of his supporters on Facebook who criticized him for staying away from the rally, the AFC Leader explained that his attendance at the rally would have been “spun and twisted by the propagandists in the PPP,” and that he did not want to be on the platform of an opposing Party.

 

This this end, Granger said he is personally not offended by Ramjattan’s statements.

“Ramjattan knows what’s best for his Party and I wouldn’t criticize his decision… in any event the rally was held, the AFC attended and the remarks resonated with the entire audience of several thousand Guyanese.”

 

 

Django
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
“When we had decided that we were going to invite the AFC, I had hoped that Nagamootoo and Ramjattan would have been there at the rally and participated,” he said; adding that “this can no longer be seen as a Party struggle but national movement to bring about better governance in the country.”

 

 

Granger disappointed with Ramjattan’s planned absence at Friday’s rally, November 18, 2014 1:13 pm Category: latest news A+ / A-, By Kurt Campbell

Perhaps, they lost their way to the function.

Next time they must get a map to find the square of the revolution location. Everybody knows where freedom house is, though. 

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
“When we had decided that we were going to invite the AFC, I had hoped that Nagamootoo and Ramjattan would have been there at the rally and participated,” he said; adding that “this can no longer be seen as a Party struggle but national movement to bring about better governance in the country.”

 

 

Granger disappointed with Ramjattan’s planned absence at Friday’s rally, November 18, 2014 1:13 pm Category: latest news A+ / A-, By Kurt Campbell

Perhaps, they lost their way to the function.

Next time they must get a map to find the square of the revolution location. Everybody knows where freedom house is, though. 

They probably need a map for everything.  

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
“When we had decided that we were going to invite the AFC, I had hoped that Nagamootoo and Ramjattan would have been there at the rally and participated,” he said; adding that “this can no longer be seen as a Party struggle but national movement to bring about better governance in the country.”

 

 

Granger disappointed with Ramjattan’s planned absence at Friday’s rally, November 18, 2014 1:13 pm Category: latest news A+ / A-, By Kurt Campbell

Perhaps, they lost their way to the function.

Next time they must get a map to find the square of the revolution location. Everybody knows where freedom house is, though. 

freedum house is similar to a petting zoo,every body know where the stupid donkeys stable 

FM

Perhaps, they lost their way to the function.

 

Next time they must get a map to find the square of the revolution location. Everybody knows where freedom house is, though. 

 

They probably need a map for everything.  

 

Warrior : freedum house is similar to a petting zoo,every body know where the stupid donkeys stable .

 

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

 

 Look like AFC need map fuh everything....

Meh Buddy could find Burnham fuh sign de PNC Card & paper fuh give he wuk as De PNC Hydro-Seed Engineer.....even if yuh Blind fold him.

If yuh Blind Fold me

I will find Kwame and Deliver de Vaseline

 

 

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Warrior : Why these two Crab Lousehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpnewnDMS9w

wondering wha the AFC doing?????

 

Answer..... Them Dutty Fellas Multiplying in dem own world...

 

But Crab Louse cant Vote.....

and everyone avoiding them twoDutty Chap.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The Guyanese populace are paying keen attention to these rallies, especially the constituents in Whim and other parts of Berbice.

 

The A.F.C has approach wit's end.

Here is the rub.

 

The Indian vote plunges by 20% because they don't like the PPP and aren't convinced that the AFC can win.  This results in 30k fewer votes for the PPP.

 

If APNU holds its votes at 139k and the PPP only gets 136k. APNU WINS.

 

So focus on why people don't like the PPP and less on the AFC.  They can get the same votes as they did last time, or even fewer, but there will still remain a scenario for the PPP to LOSE!

 

I told you all to treat black people properly and you all refused, and now they will turn out to turn the PPP OUT!

FM

While some stuck in Race Politics.....

Moses & the People who will make a difference forging ahead.....

Explaining the Dangers of Dictatorship in Guyana

Carl Greenidge and I on LEAD TV programme for broadcast Sunday. Subject: danger of dictatorship in Guyana

Carib J how yuh doing?

FM
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Originally Posted by Jalil:

While some stuck in Race Politics.....

Moses & the People who will make a difference forging ahead.....

Explaining the Dangers of Dictatorship in Guyana

Carl Greenidge and I on LEAD TV programme for broadcast Sunday. Subject: danger of dictatorship in Guyana

Carib J how yuh doing?

Jalil just admit that it is race politics why Nagamootoo didn't speak.  This isn't to say that he is racist, and I never heard any one say he is. 

 

This is because the AFC is powerless to change the racial context of Guyanese politics and Nagamootoo was afraid that his speaking to a black protest would have been used against him by the PPP pulling its usual panic card playing on the fears that many Indians have of blacks.

 

Because if this wasn't the explanation then why didn't he speak? He can't claim that the AFC didn't want to embrace an APNU event unless he claims that Nigel Hughes isn't a very important person within the AFC.

 

Nagamootoo sees the Indian vote as his base as they know him, and many think highly of him.  He doesn't seem to have the same confidence of his appeal to the black vote.  Because if he did he could have exposed himself to this black crowd, thereby given them an opportunity to have an alternate on election day, instead of just blindly voting APNU, thinking that they have no choice.

 

At the end of the day Guyanese vote for the president, and not the party as the MPs serve at the pleasure of the president, and so aren't answerable to the people.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

They are treating Lumumba, Burtan, Kwame, Luncheon, Hinds, Benn, Ghetto Barbie, Joe Hamilton (Prince Akai) and several other house slaves quite well.

If you equate the fact that the PPP treats a band of criminals quite well with some assertion that this has to do with the rest of the Afro Guyanese population, you then share the same opinion of black Guyanese that Jalil does.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Jalil just admit that it is race politics why Nagamootoo didn't speak.  This isn't to say that he is racist, and I never heard any one say he is. 

 

This is because the AFC is powerless to change the racial context of Guyanese politics and Nagamootoo was afraid that his speaking to a black protest would have been used against him by the PPP pulling its usual panic card playing on the fears that many Indians have of blacks.

 

Because if this wasn't the explanation then why didn't he speak? He can't claim that the AFC didn't want to embrace an APNU event unless he claims that Nigel Hughes isn't a very important person within the AFC.

 

Nagamootoo sees the Indian vote as his base as they know him, and many think highly of him.  He doesn't seem to have the same confidence of his appeal to the black vote.  Because if he did he could have exposed himself to this black crowd, thereby given them an opportunity to have an alternate on election day, instead of just blindly voting APNU, thinking that they have no choice.

 

At the end of the day Guyanese vote for the president, and not the party as the MPs serve at the pleasure of the president, and so aren't answerable to the people.

caribny, within the past 48 hrs u clearly smeared Moses Nagamootoo and Khemraj Ramjattan as anti-Black racists . . . now you're trying to back fill and pretend none of that happened, and that your circular shyte (through endless repetition) point to something rather than nothing

 

u are a very irresponsible and un-clever fella

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
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caribny, within the past 48 hrs u clearly smeared Moses Nagamootoo and Khemraj Ramjattan as anti-Black racists . . . now you're trying to back fill and pretend none of that happened, and that your circular shyte (through endless repetition) point to something rather than nothing

 

u are a very irresponsible and un-clever fella

That is YOUR interpretation basedc on your hysterical and dogmatic need to defend the AFC.

 

I said that the AFC has an extreme focus on getting the Indian vote.  That it has an Indo friendly face in order to do so.  I termed it Indo party II. I saidf that as a result of this they had reneged on the ethnic rotation principle. I said that this over focus on the Indian vote would hurt it in terms of getting the black vote.

 

I did not say that Nagamootoo and Ramjattan are racists.  Operating within the context of race based politics doesn't necessitate that one be a racist. It suggests that one operates WITHIN the context of race based politics.  In this instance, in order to get the Indian vote Nagamootoo has engaged on actions that would imply a much lower emphasis on getting the black vote, because of a failure to speak to black people, and engage in the issues which concern them.

 

Feel free to pull any post where I said that Nagamootoo or Ramjattan are racists. Indeed from the minute that the PPP started up trying to promote the fact that these two are racists because they didn't speak in front of a protest which the PPP promoted as bound to end up in anti Indian violence I said specifically that they are not.

 

Now if you chose to turn a blind eye to the fact that the AFC is engaging in race based politics in order to get the Indian vote feel free.  But this is obvious.

 

Your issue is, even as the AFC has shifted its focus from rising above ethnic poll, to engaging in an extreme focus on the Indian vote, you wish to pretend that it hasn't.

FM
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GNI Member Expose Carib J again....

caribny, within the past 48 hrs u clearly smeared Moses Nagamootoo and Khemraj Ramjattan as anti-Black racists . . . now you're trying to back fill and pretend none of that happened, and that your circular shyte (through endless repetition) point to something rather than nothing

 

u are a very irresponsible and un-clever fella.

 

Note this time it is not Jalil words....it's another GNI Member Exposing CaribJ as a Racist.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The Guyanese populace are paying keen attention to these rallies, especially the constituents in Whim and other parts of Berbice.

 

The A.F.C has approach wit's end.

 

The AFC is finished, dead in the water. Runjhatt and Moses are like fish out of water.

 

8 supporters in Region 5 is all that they can organize for a "massive" protest.

 

The AFC is now a headless Party clinging on to Granger for oxygen.

 

Gerhard jumped the AFC ship just before it sank.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:

caribny, within the past 48 hrs u clearly smeared Moses Nagamootoo and Khemraj Ramjattan as anti-Black racists . . . now you're trying to back fill and pretend none of that happened, and that your circular shyte (through endless repetition) point to something rather than nothing

 

u are a very irresponsible and un-clever fella

Feel free to pull any post where I said that Nagamootoo or Ramjattan are racists . . .

OK . . . since u insist:

 

caribny: "Race has completely taken over Ramjattan's and Nagamootoo's brains.  They see themselves as Indians so REFUSED to speak in front of a black audience.  ADDRESS THAT!"

 

i am not done with u; i will rebut (point for point) and EXPOSE (again!) the rest of your circular shyte later

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

They are treating Lumumba, Burtan, Kwame, Luncheon, Hinds, Benn, Ghetto Barbie, Joe Hamilton (Prince Akai) and several other house slaves quite well.

If you equate the fact that the PPP treats a band of criminals quite well with some assertion that this has to do with the rest of the Afro Guyanese population, you then share the same opinion of black Guyanese that Jalil does.

Were you enrolled like your PPP racist compatriots on the other side in an ESL class?

FM
Originally Posted by Jalil:

GNI Member Expose Carib J again....

is not Jalil words....it's another GNI Member Exposing CaribJ as a Racist.

So you go and find any post where I accused them of being racists.

 

I gave you a SPECIFIC example of what YOU said and I responded to you IMMEDIATELY.

 

BTW dont stump your toe on all my posts to the PPP frauds when they attempted to call the AFC racist.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

They are treating Lumumba, Burtan, Kwame, Luncheon, Hinds, Benn, Ghetto Barbie, Joe Hamilton (Prince Akai) and several other house slaves quite well.

If you equate the fact that the PPP treats a band of criminals quite well with some assertion that this has to do with the rest of the Afro Guyanese population, you then share the same opinion of black Guyanese that Jalil does.

Were you enrolled like your PPP racist compatriots on the other side in an ESL class?

So occupied are you with your ghetto gyal screams that you lack any understanding of anything.

 

I said the PPP treats blacks poorly. You gave examples of blacks who they treated well in response to that comment.  My response is that if that is how you respond to my comment, then you are tying the entire black population to a criminal few, and so are being racist.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
. . .

OK . . . since u insist:

 

caribny: "Race has completely taken over Ramjattan's and Nagamootoo's brains.  They see themselves as Indians so REFUSED to speak in front of a black audience.  ADDRESS THAT!"

 

i am not done with u; i will rebut (point for point) and EXPOSE (again!) the rest of your circular shyte later


Obviously they see themselves as Indians.  Obviously they are sensitive to what the PPP would do to them if they spoke at a black protest.  Obviousloy a decision was made to have Patterson (who has a low profile) abd Hughes, the two black AFC leaders speak, while Nagamootoo (the presidential candidate) and Ramjattan (the presidential candidate in 2011) DID NOT speak.

 

1.  Is it a coincident that the black AFC leaders were visible and the Indian ones not?  How canm you account for that, except to acknowlegde the race factor there?

 

2.  Being aware of the race factor in Guyanese politics and strategizing around that isnt being racist.

 

3.  You fully well know that Nagamootoo is primarlly impacted by how he looks to the Indian vote whcih he seeks and how their views might be influenced by PPP propaganda.

 

I CHALLENGE you to produce an excuse outside of race to explain that.

 

Dont say that the AFC didnt want to give APNU a high profile, because why then would Nigel, the highest profile person behind Nagamootoo and Ramjattan be speaking?

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:
. . .

OK . . . since u insist:

 

caribny: "Race has completely taken over Ramjattan's and Nagamootoo's brains.  They see themselves as Indians so REFUSED to speak in front of a black audience.  ADDRESS THAT!"

 

i am not done with u; i will rebut (point for point) and EXPOSE (again!) the rest of your circular shyte later


Obviously they see themselves as Indians.  Obviously they are sensitive to what the PPP would do to them if they spoke at a black protest.  Obviousloy a decision was made to have Patterson (who has a low profile) abd Hughes, the two black AFC leaders speak, while Nagamootoo (the presidential candidate) and Ramjattan (the presidential candidate in 2011) DID NOT speak.

 

1.  Is it a coincident that the black AFC leaders were visible and the Indian ones not?  How canm you account for that, except to acknowlegde the race factor there?

 

2.  Being aware of the race factor in Guyanese politics and strategizing around that isnt being racist.

 

3.  You fully well know that Nagamootoo is primarlly impacted by how he looks to the Indian vote whcih he seeks and how their views might be influenced by PPP propaganda.

 

I CHALLENGE you to produce an excuse outside of race to explain that.

 

Dont say that the AFC didnt want to give APNU a high profile, because why then would Nigel, the highest profile person behind Nagamootoo and Ramjattan be speaking?

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
 

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!

You are too dumb to understand that I am saying that because the PPP is racist and adept and creating panic among Indians Nagamootoo feared speaking in front of a black crowd.

 

It isn't the AFC which is racist.  It is the PPP!

FM

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