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The end is nigh. The end of support for Windows XP, that is.

On April 8, Microsoft will officially end technical support for its Windows XP operating system.

 

To be clear, computers running XP will keep working after April 8. But they'll run an increased risk of becoming victims of viruses and malware.

 

You see, every month for the past 12 years Microsoft has released security patches for Windows XP. If you've ever watched Windows Update do its thing, that's what going on in the background: it's downloading a security update.

 

The April 8 patch will be the last. If new flaws in XP are discovered after that, they will go unfixed.

 

XP still popular

This is a big deal, given the sheer scale of XP's installed base. Windows XP is still the second-most-popular version of Windows. By one estimate, almost 30 per cent of the world's desktop computers run XP.

 

Why are so many computers using an operating system so long in the tooth?

"A lot of it comes down to, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it,'" says Brian Bourne, a Toronto-based IT consultant and organizer of the SecTor Canadian cybersecurity conference.

 

For home use, he says, "a lot of people are reluctant to change something that they know and just works. And that's also true in business."

'Hackers [may have] found vulnerabilities in Windows XP that they haven't disclosed, that they're waiting until after April 8 to start using. Depending on the severity of those, they'll have large success attacking machines.'<cite class="pullquote-source">- Brian Bourne, IT security consultant</cite>

I certainly know people who still run Windows XP at home. And here at the CBC's Toronto Broadcasting Centre, I'm surrounded by XP computers in radio studios and on my colleagues' desks.

 

So what's the risk of running a soon-to-be-unsupported operating System? According to Bourne, it's twofold.

 

First, he says, "hackers [may have] found vulnerabilities in Windows XP that they haven't disclosed, that they're waiting until after April 8 to start using. Depending on the severity of those, they'll have large success attacking machines."

 

The second concern is related to vulnerabilities that haven't been discovered yet. Even if they are identified in the future, Microsoft won't release any more security updates to fix them.

 

WAITING FOR WINDOWS

Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates promoted Windows XP in places like Times Square in October 2001 after its launch, but these days the company is eager to persuade people to move on to a new operating system. For those concerned about the vulnerability of Windows XP after technical support is phased out in April, Microsoft's website bluntly suggests two options: upgrade to a newer and supported version of Windows, or buy a new computer. (Richard Drew/AP)

 

To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns. After April 8, anyone still using Windows XP should worry about both.

Windows XP's 30 per cent market share comprises a wide variety of users: individuals, governments, and private businesses. Brian Bourne gave me one example of a Canadian industry that still relies heavily on Windows: banking.

 

He says only one of Canada's major banks has achieved 50 per cent deployment of the newer Windows 7 operating system.

"All the rest are less," he says, adding, "their ATMs are all XP."

Granted, ATMS aren't hooked up to the internet, so they don't have the same attack vectors as desktop PCs. Bourne also notes that Canadian banks are paying for custom support from Microsoft to help keep their Windows XP systems secure beyond April 8.

 

For individuals, it's important to remember that even if you're not running Windows XP yourself, there's a good chance you're doing business with somebody who does: anyone from your bank to your neighbourhood restaurant with a Windows XP point-of-sale system.

Options

So, what to do if you're still running Windows XP on your home PC?

On its website, Microsoft suggests two options: upgrade to a newer, supported version of Windows. Or buy a new PC.

"Those are certainly the safest options," Bourne says. 

If you simply must keep using Windows XP, Bourne says there are a few things you can do to improve your security:

 

  • First, he says, set up a home firewall to keep out malicious network traffic.
  • Second, use an up-to-date web browser that isn't Internet Explorer. Bourne suggests Google Chrome or Mozilla's Firefox.
  • Third, he says, "an antivirus product that is up-to-date will help."

I asked Bourne what he thinks about switching to an entirely different operating system like Ubuntu. While that may be an option for some XP users, Bourne warned that new operating systems often come with a steep learning curve.

But ultimately, he says, "if you still have XP, it’s time to move."

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I have an XP machine. I am installing suze 13 on it. I am using windows only because I need to for work. I am completely sold on Linux, any flavor. I also like the completely programmable x windows GUI interface of Linux.Whether one use KDE or Gnome ( the better but more complex one) one will get a rewarding experience . Every person with an XP machine that is still functioning should reformat and install Suze or Ubuntu. It is time each of you liberate yourselves from being slaves to marketers of an OS.

 

An Xp machine will not only get new life; it will be guaranteed never to become obsolete and run ten times faster than it ever ran. You also get lots of very powerful tools in every area that is bug free and easy to install. Windows has become like a printer; as inkjet printers are money siphon via costly ink purchases.  Windows and Mac Os are suction of cash to do practically everything. One is forced to buy yearly license for even a word processor these days.

 

I say, use this opportunity to free yourselves of the OS slavery. I call it Operating System oppression. Linux can free you from this slavery. Freedom  here means money in your pocket. Note your android phones and Mac are already linux based.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

I have an XP machine. I am installing suze 13 on it. I am using windows only because I need to for work. I am completely sold on Linux, any flavor. I also like the completely programmable x windows GUI interface of Linux.Whether one use KDE or Gnome ( the better but more complex one) one will get a rewarding experience . Every person with an XP machine that is still functioning should reformat and install Suze or Ubuntu. It is time each of you liberate yourselves from being slaves to marketers of an OS.

 

An Xp machine will not only get new life; it will be guaranteed never to become obsolete and run ten times faster than it ever ran. You also get lots of very powerful tools in every area that is bug free and easy to install. Windows has become like a printer; as inkjet printers are money siphon via costly ink purchases.  Windows and Mac Os are suction of cash to do practically everything. One is forced to buy yearly license for even a word processor these days.

 

I say, use this opportunity to free yourselves of the OS slavery. I call it Operating System oppression. Linux can free you from this slavery. Freedom  here means money in your pocket. Note your android phones and Mac are already linux based.

But how does this affect the applications that we all use across the board. Like doing something at home and then being able to bring it up at work. Only this week, I saw that the iPad will now use Microsoft Office and felt great since it will make it easier to bridge my use as opposed to using the application that iPad uses today. Is that going to be threatened when dismantling Windows for another system which may not be as widespread as Windows?

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

I have an XP machine. I am installing suze 13 on it. I am using windows only because I need to for work. I am completely sold on Linux, any flavor. I also like the completely programmable x windows GUI interface of Linux.Whether one use KDE or Gnome ( the better but more complex one) one will get a rewarding experience . Every person with an XP machine that is still functioning should reformat and install Suze or Ubuntu. It is time each of you liberate yourselves from being slaves to marketers of an OS.

 

An Xp machine will not only get new life; it will be guaranteed never to become obsolete and run ten times faster than it ever ran. You also get lots of very powerful tools in every area that is bug free and easy to install. Windows has become like a printer; as inkjet printers are money siphon via costly ink purchases.  Windows and Mac Os are suction of cash to do practically everything. One is forced to buy yearly license for even a word processor these days.

 

I say, use this opportunity to free yourselves of the OS slavery. I call it Operating System oppression. Linux can free you from this slavery. Freedom  here means money in your pocket. Note your android phones and Mac are already linux based.

But how does this affect the applications that we all use across the board. Like doing something at home and then being able to bring it up at work. Only this week, I saw that the iPad will now use Microsoft Office and felt great since it will make it easier to bridge my use as opposed to using the application that iPad uses today. Is that going to be threatened when dismantling Windows for another system which may not be as widespread as Windows?

I have windows xp, vista and windows 8. Think I will just let the xp expire and don't use it for the internet. Use that machine only for photographs editing etc.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

I have an XP machine. I am installing suze 13 on it. I am using windows only because I need to for work. I am completely sold on Linux, any flavor. I also like the completely programmable x windows GUI interface of Linux.Whether one use KDE or Gnome ( the better but more complex one) one will get a rewarding experience . Every person with an XP machine that is still functioning should reformat and install Suze or Ubuntu. It is time each of you liberate yourselves from being slaves to marketers of an OS.

 

An Xp machine will not only get new life; it will be guaranteed never to become obsolete and run ten times faster than it ever ran. You also get lots of very powerful tools in every area that is bug free and easy to install. Windows has become like a printer; as inkjet printers are money siphon via costly ink purchases.  Windows and Mac Os are suction of cash to do practically everything. One is forced to buy yearly license for even a word processor these days.

 

I say, use this opportunity to free yourselves of the OS slavery. I call it Operating System oppression. Linux can free you from this slavery. Freedom  here means money in your pocket. Note your android phones and Mac are already linux based.

But how does this affect the applications that we all use across the board. Like doing something at home and then being able to bring it up at work. Only this week, I saw that the iPad will now use Microsoft Office and felt great since it will make it easier to bridge my use as opposed to using the application that iPad uses today. Is that going to be threatened when dismantling Windows for another system which may not be as widespread as Windows?

File formats are no longer problematic as previously. In linux you get free photo editing software, word processors, illustrators CADs, that are as powerful as the popular brand names and all able to exchange files. I can open and write excel or word files with Open Office.

 

I was suggesting that if you hav3e an XP machine you do not throw it away but use it to jump into linux which is more powerful than windows and more connected to what is happening in the computing world than Mac OS or windows.

 

I use windows 8 on my surface but my old XP machine which is still full of life would be dead next month with no support. I am giving it new life with opeeSuse. I also run Suse on my laptop since I use it as my primary work machine.  

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

File formats are no longer problematic as previously. In linux you get free photo editing software, word processors, illustrators CADs, that are as powerful as the popular brand names and all able to exchange files. I can open and write excel or word files with Open Office.

 

I was suggesting that if you hav3e an XP machine you do not throw it away but use it to jump into linux which is more powerful than windows and more connected to what is happening in the computing world than Mac OS or windows.

 

I use windows 8 on my surface but my old XP machine which is still full of life would be dead next month with no support. I am giving it new life with opeeSuse. I also run Suse on my laptop since I use it as my primary work machine.  

My case have always been different since it is my machines that give up on my OS. That is because I have been building my own machines for years now and since I am no technician, I usually build crappy machines.

 

But I see your point.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

File formats are no longer problematic as previously. In linux you get free photo editing software, word processors, illustrators CADs, that are as powerful as the popular brand names and all able to exchange files. I can open and write excel or word files with Open Office.

 

I was suggesting that if you hav3e an XP machine you do not throw it away but use it to jump into linux which is more powerful than windows and more connected to what is happening in the computing world than Mac OS or windows.

 

I use windows 8 on my surface but my old XP machine which is still full of life would be dead next month with no support. I am giving it new life with opeeSuse. I also run Suse on my laptop since I use it as my primary work machine.  

My case have always been different since it is my machines that give up on my OS. That is because I have been building my own machines for years now and since I am no technician, I usually build crappy machines.

 

But I see your point.

I would not build a machine these days. There is no reason to unless you are building a game machine. Even here the dedicated game laptops are far superior to what one can build for the same price. I have a dedicated game machine  by alienware and I paid 2k  for it. Building a similar desktop would be around 3K.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

I would not build a machine these days. There is no reason to unless you are building a game machine. Even here the dedicated game laptops are far superior to what one can build for the same price. I have a dedicated game machine  by alienware and I paid 2k  for it. Building a similar desktop would be around 3K.

Nothing I do on a computer is important to the point of me spending thousands of dollars. My machines only cost hundred of dollars. Maybe that is why they are crappy.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

I would not build a machine these days. There is no reason to unless you are building a game machine. Even here the dedicated game laptops are far superior to what one can build for the same price. I have a dedicated game machine  by alienware and I paid 2k  for it. Building a similar desktop would be around 3K.

Nothing I do on a computer is important to the point of me spending thousands of dollars. My machines only cost hundred of dollars. Maybe that is why they are crappy.

everything you do on a computer is important.

 

Cheap computers can be good computers.

 

Try popcorn time; it actually works!

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

I have an XP machine. I am installing suze 13 on it. I am using windows only because I need to for work. I am completely sold on Linux, any flavor. I also like the completely programmable x windows GUI interface of Linux.Whether one use KDE or Gnome ( the better but more complex one) one will get a rewarding experience . Every person with an XP machine that is still functioning should reformat and install Suze or Ubuntu. It is time each of you liberate yourselves from being slaves to marketers of an OS.

 

An Xp machine will not only get new life; it will be guaranteed never to become obsolete and run ten times faster than it ever ran. You also get lots of very powerful tools in every area that is bug free and easy to install. Windows has become like a printer; as inkjet printers are money siphon via costly ink purchases. Windows and Mac Os are suction of cash to do practically everything. One is forced to buy yearly license for even a word processor these days.

 

I say, use this opportunity to free yourselves of the OS slavery. I call it Operating System oppression. Linux can free you from this slavery. Freedom  here means money in your pocket. Note your android phones and Mac are already linux based.

 

Mac OSX Mavericks is free. Yes free.

 

Unlike Windblows (Windows) is from $ 105.00 and up. Buy a Mac and get it over with. With a Mac you can also run Windows. Best of both worlds.

 

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:

My desktop and the boy's laptop uses Windows 7. My laptop uses Windows 8. I am taking the girl to buy a laptop today. She wants a Sony, I think. I have no idea what that is coming with.

Sony VAIO are expensive. I have been buying Sony since 2001 for my household. The new ones come with W8. You might as well get a touch screen version if you buying from new.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

My desktop and the boy's laptop uses Windows 7. My laptop uses Windows 8. I am taking the girl to buy a laptop today. She wants a Sony, I think. I have no idea what that is coming with.

Sony VAIO are expensive. I have been buying Sony since 2001 for my household. The new ones come with W8. You might as well get a touch screen version if you buying from new.

The one she wants is around 2k. We did not get to go last week because the person had to leave early. I believe it is also touch. But I don't mind her getting it. After all, she is only asked to pay attention in school. The school is paying her whole tuition. Plus she gets back excess money from her other scholarships. Plus she is still on the Dean's list so she deserves it,

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
 
Originally Posted by ksazma:

My desktop and the boy's laptop uses Windows 7. My laptop uses Windows 8. I am taking the girl to buy a laptop today. She wants a Sony, I think. I have no idea what that is coming with.

 

The one she wants is around 2k. We did not get to go last week because the person had to leave early. I believe it is also touch. But I don't mind her getting it. After all, she is only asked to pay attention in school. The school is paying her whole tuition. Plus she gets back excess money from her other scholarships. Plus she is still on the Dean's list so she deserves it,

Ksazma - isn't the Princess your only daughter?

She deserves the best ...

From what the guys - IT dept, where I work, told me... do not buy Windows 8/8.1 ... buy Windows 7.

After 12 years I am getting rid of my complete computer... monitor & printer - all Dell.

Buying another DELL - the computer was coming loaded with W8... I asked for W7... have to wait for delivery around April 10...

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by IGH:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
 
Originally Posted by ksazma:

My desktop and the boy's laptop uses Windows 7. My laptop uses Windows 8. I am taking the girl to buy a laptop today. She wants a Sony, I think. I have no idea what that is coming with.

 

The one she wants is around 2k. We did not get to go last week because the person had to leave early. I believe it is also touch. But I don't mind her getting it. After all, she is only asked to pay attention in school. The school is paying her whole tuition. Plus she gets back excess money from her other scholarships. Plus she is still on the Dean's list so she deserves it,

Ksazma - isn't the Princess your only daughter?

She deserves the best ...

From what the guys - IT dept, where I work, told me... do not buy Windows 8/8.1 ... buy Windows 7.

After 12 years I am getting rid of my complete computer... monitor & printer - all Dell.

Buying another DELL - the computer was coming loaded with W8... I asked for W7... have to wait for delivery around April 10...

 

 

Feens, this princess is the only one I am aware of.

Thanks for your OS advise.

FM
Originally Posted by IGH:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
 
Originally Posted by ksazma:

My desktop and the boy's laptop uses Windows 7. My laptop uses Windows 8. I am taking the girl to buy a laptop today. She wants a Sony, I think. I have no idea what that is coming with.

 

The one she wants is around 2k. We did not get to go last week because the person had to leave early. I believe it is also touch. But I don't mind her getting it. After all, she is only asked to pay attention in school. The school is paying her whole tuition. Plus she gets back excess money from her other scholarships. Plus she is still on the Dean's list so she deserves it,

Ksazma - isn't the Princess your only daughter?

She deserves the best ...

From what the guys - IT dept, where I work, told me... do not buy Windows 8/8.1 ... buy Windows 7.

After 12 years I am getting rid of my complete computer... monitor & printer - all Dell.

Buying another DELL - the computer was coming loaded with W8... I asked for W7... have to wait for delivery around April 10...

 

 

I do not now why your IT guys would dispense such poor information. Windows 8 is a touch screen operation and if the PC is touch screen it is the only one that can use it. Windows seven offers no advantage except it is more hospitable to older PC programs. It is the interface you will see consistently across windows PCs, tablets and phones and to stay with windows seven is to be behind the technology curve.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Mr.T:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

My desktop and the boy's laptop uses Windows 7. My laptop uses Windows 8. I am taking the girl to buy a laptop today. She wants a Sony, I think. I have no idea what that is coming with.

Sony VAIO are expensive. I have been buying Sony since 2001 for my household. The new ones come with W8. You might as well get a touch screen version if you buying from new.

The one she wants is around 2k. We did not get to go last week because the person had to leave early. I believe it is also touch. But I don't mind her getting it. After all, she is only asked to pay attention in school. The school is paying her whole tuition. Plus she gets back excess money from her other scholarships. Plus she is still on the Dean's list so she deserves it,

Vaios have slick design but they under-perform. My suggestion is you buy for speed and capacity amd ease of use. The machine may not look as slick as a vaio but the savings on looks could accrue to power, durability and port options etc.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

Vaios have slick design but they under-perform. My suggestion is you buy for speed and capacity amd ease of use. The machine may not look as slick as a vaio but the savings on looks could accrue to power, durability and port options etc.

 

Good point. Showed it to her but given that she is 19 and a girl, she is still inclined to go with the attractive one. She said that she doesn't need a workhorse computer right now.

Similar to when we give her her mom's Beemer instead of the FRS/BRZ. I thought the Beemer was safer and easier on the insurance given that she was just 17. I told her that when she is more experienced, she can get the FRS/BRZ to which she said that she doesn't think it would be practical for her when she has kids.

FM

I listened to the IT guys where I work and asked for W 7 to be installed in my new computer...

Read on:


Microsoft Abandons Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like Windows XP

 

Microsoft Microsoft has been on a roll lately. Office for iOS (and soon Android), free Windows licenses for small devices, universal Windows and Windows Phone apps, Siri rival Cortana, even a promise to eventually return the start menu before Windows 9. But when it comes to Windows 8, it seems the company has a permanently loaded pistol aimed squarely at its feet.

So it fits that just one week on from the launch of β€˜Windows 8.1 Update 1’ (the smart upgrade mouse and keyboard users have long awaited) stupidity would strike once again.

 

β€œWindows 8.1 Update is a cumulative update to Windows 8.1,” said Microsoft Senior Product Marketing Manager Ben Hunter in an apparently innocuous blog post aimed at IT professionals. Then came the clanger: β€œIt also becomes the new servicing baseline for Windows 8.1, so next month’s security updates (on May 13th, the next β€˜Patch Tuesday&rsquo will be dependent on Windows 8.1 Update.”

In English: If you have not installed Update 1 by 13 May then Windows 8.1 will no longer receive security updates until you do. This is your 4 week countdown warning.

 

For many it is no big deal. Just update and be quick about it. But for anyone who chooses not to install every Microsoft update the moment it appears, like mainstream users or – let me think – most businesses around the world who have lengthy validation processes… it is another matter entirely.

So come 13 May Microsoft will issue security patches that detail flaws they are fixing and those flaws will be left unpatched for all Windows 8.1 users until they apply Update 1. A nightmare scenario. Users who stay with Windows 8.1 will face the same scenario Windows XP users are in after Microsoft cut off security updates this month, but that came a generous 13 years after XP’s initial release. Come 13 May Windows 8.1 will be just 8 months old. Major updates to previous editions of Windows (then dubbed β€˜Service Packs&rsquo also had β€˜cut off’ dates for users to apply updates, but they were never so short.

Of course an argument could be made that Microsoft is merely determined to keep all its users up to date. That argument is somewhat undermined by the fact users still on Windows 8 will keep receiving security patches until January 2016. If Microsoft can keep security eligibility alive for Windows 8.0 for 8 more months because it recognises not everyone upgrades immediately, why can’t it give Windows 8.1 users more leeway than 30 days to install Update 1?

Furthermore Microsoft’s decision has terrible timing. It is announced against the backdrop of Heartbleed, a security bug which this month exposed user details on 17% of the world’s supposedly secure web servers. Heartbleed has hit headlines around the globe and made users paranoid about security. Microsoft could not see it coming, but in refusing to give Windows 8.1 users more time in its wake the company looks antagonistic.

 

It gets worse because Microsoft recognises Windows 8.1 Update 1 has problems. In a TechNet post Senior Microsoft Consultant Steve Thomas confirms there is β€œan issue regarding Windows 8.1 Update preventing interaction with WSUS 3.2 over SSL connections” and until it is fixed the deployment of Update 1 will be suspended to affected machines.

For affected users who have already downloaded Windows 8.1 Update 1 Thomas says β€œwe recommend that you suspend deployment of this update in your organization until we release the update that resolves this issue.”

Yes, Microsoft faces a race against time entirely of its own making. It is a no win situation. Even if Microsoft issues a fix before 13 May every day spent is a day less for administrators to check for compatibility issues and apply Update 1 across all their Windows 8.1 machines.

And yet perhaps the most frustrating aspect to all of this is Windows 8.1 Update 1 is a great update. In fact it is arguably the best and most important update Windows 8 has received.

 

Amongst other things Update 1 intelligently boots users without touchscreens to the desktop by default and uses desktop apps by default, it reduces the sensitivity of hot corners, highlights newly installed apps and dramatically improves the Modern UI for keyboard and mouse users. It also cuts its install size in half (from 32GB to 16GB) on SSDs, runs faster on slower hardware and drops minimum memory requirements from 2GB to 1GB of RAM. The end result is a darn good operating system.

Cynics will quite rightly point out it is the OS which Microsoft should have released from day one, but nevertheless Windows 8 is now starting to realise the company’s lofty ambitions.

All of which has probably come too late. Love or loathe Windows 8, it has been a sales flop. It changed too much too soon, alienated large numbers of users and ever since Microsoft has fought to restore confidence. Windows 8.1 Update 1 looked to be the incarnation to do it, but in needlessly condemning Windows 8.1 to the same fate as 13 year old Windows XP it has all but confirmed its latest OS will never be remembered with the same fondness.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/go...off-like-windows-xp/

 

 

FM

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