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President David Granger

July 14, 2017  Source

–President says minister inherited a broken prison system

NO blame should be attached to Public Security Minister Khemraj Ramjattan for the two Georgetown Prison fires in March 2016 and last Sunday, President David Granger has said.
The President’s statement follows calls by the Opposition People’s Progressive Party’s (PPP) for Ramjattan to step down from his post. But President Granger reminded that the prison system has been plagued with problems for a long time, while noting that the problems are not a quick fix.

“It is quite unfortunate that Mr Ramjattan had to inherit a prison service which is in its present state,” the President told the Guyana Chronicle in an interview on Thursday.
He noted too that even while he was a member of the Disciplined Forces Commission 14 years ago, he was aware of the decrepit state of the infrastructure at all the country’s prison facilities.
Following the March 2016 fire which left 17 prisoners dead, the President and the Minister of Public Security visited the Mazaruni Prisons where an assessment of the infrastructure was done and plans made to have the facility expanded to accommodate more prisoners. “…he was with me last year, we visited Mazaruni and we knew what had to be done. I would not blame him, I think he has a very difficult ministry,” President Granger added.
Asked whether he believes the appointment of a junior minister to the Public Security Ministry would remove some of the pressures off Minister Ramjattan, the head-of-state said, “…the presence of a junior minister may not necessarily relieve him of the burden of the discrepant system.”
Granger made the point that each aspect of the security sector is faced with its own challenges, and as such, he is awaiting a report from his advisor on security on the way forward relative to reform of the force.
In the case of the Guyana Fire Service, the President noted the need for more equipment. “It is a high-expenditure ministry, but I would not attach any blame to him or any neglect of duty on his part. I think he is working very hard in a difficult situation,” Mr Granger asserted.

Meanwhile, on Wednesday, Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo said Ramjattan should consider calls for him to resign following the second Camp Street penitentiary fire and jailbreak. Jagdeo labelled the minister as incompetent and said it would be best if the President asks Ramjattan to resign.
“He has to take responsibility just like in the past when they used to call on PPP ministers, when there was a problem… to resign,” said Jagdeo, who served as President during the 2002 jailbreak and other prison unrests.

However, on Sunday night, during a televised press conference aired on the National Communications Network (NCN), Ramjattan cast aside calls for him to demit office. When asked whether be believes he should step down, given the two fires which occurred just over a year apart, Ramjattan said he is not to be blamed as he did nothing wrong. “If there is a fault on my part; well, the President can do that… I would have resigned if it was a fault on my part,” Ramjattan told reporters.
He said too that because of the need to bailout the ailing sugar industry, large amounts were expended there and stressed that the government does not have the finances to construct a new facility immediately.

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Riff, dat GADAHA dont know his mouth from his Kakahole! He is so dumb and stupid it is no wonder Guyana went from top of the mountain to the bottom of the Latrine in 2 years. He is a special kind if INCOMPETENCE!!

Nehru

Utter nonsense. Yes they inherited a broken criminal justice system but they have had 2 years to BEGIN to fix it.  We don't expect miracles but we expect to see the beginning of some change.

Can Granger itemize how exactly he has begun to fix this and other issues?  According to most G/T is once again "Wild Kingdom" even though its City Council and its national government are both APNU/AFC.

FM

Also Ramjattan needs to do the right thing and demit his position as Minister of Home Affairs as he is as inept in this function as was Rohee.

Interesting that they put military men in all sorts of positions, some not even beginning to have a clue as to what to do, yet a position like this, which screams for the expertise that I presume that a high caliber military man should have, they put Ramjattan.

FM
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caribny posted:

Utter nonsense. Yes they inherited a broken criminal justice system but they have had 2 years to BEGIN to fix it.  We don't expect miracles but we expect to see the beginning of some change.

Can Granger itemize how exactly he has begun to fix this and other issues?  According to most G/T is once again "Wild Kingdom" even though its City Council and its national government are both APNU/AFC.

When are you going to give your PNC boys any blame? Never? Are they accountable for any problems in Guyana? Did the PPP inherit a broken sysytem in 1991? I did not hear them constantly blame your PNC boys.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
caribny posted:

Utter nonsense. Yes they inherited a broken criminal justice system but they have had 2 years to BEGIN to fix it.  We don't expect miracles but we expect to see the beginning of some change.

Can Granger itemize how exactly he has begun to fix this and other issues?  According to most G/T is once again "Wild Kingdom" even though its City Council and its national government are both APNU/AFC.

When are you going to give your PNC boys any blame? Never? Are they accountable for any problems in Guyana? Did the PPP inherit a broken sysytem in 1991? I did not hear them constantly blame your PNC boys.

the man just finished criticizing the Govt.....

FM
RiffRaff posted:
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the man just finished criticizing the Govt.....

Many of the folks come from the Corentyne Coast which has the highest level of illiteracy in coastal Guyana.  I forgive them for their ignorance.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
caribny posted:

Utter nonsense. Yes they inherited a broken criminal justice system but they have had 2 years to BEGIN to fix it.  We don't expect miracles but we expect to see the beginning of some change.

Can Granger itemize how exactly he has begun to fix this and other issues?  According to most G/T is once again "Wild Kingdom" even though its City Council and its national government are both APNU/AFC.

When are you going to give your PNC boys any blame? Never? Are they accountable for any problems in Guyana? Did the PPP inherit a broken sysytem in 1991? I did not hear them constantly blame your PNC boys.

Carib is too nice to you people..this is where I woulda tell you about haul yo rass.The banna made a post against the Granger govt. So what part of it you got problems with?

cain
RiffRaff posted:
skeldon_man posted:
caribny posted:

Utter nonsense. Yes they inherited a broken criminal justice system but they have had 2 years to BEGIN to fix it.  We don't expect miracles but we expect to see the beginning of some change.

Can Granger itemize how exactly he has begun to fix this and other issues?  According to most G/T is once again "Wild Kingdom" even though its City Council and its national government are both APNU/AFC.

When are you going to give your PNC boys any blame? Never? Are they accountable for any problems in Guyana? Did the PPP inherit a broken sysytem in 1991? I did not hear them constantly blame your PNC boys.

the man just finished criticizing the Govt.....

You failed to see my point. It was about an inherited broken criminal system.

FM
caribny posted:

Also Ramjattan needs to do the right thing and demit his position as Minister of Home Affairs as he is as inept in this function as was Rohee.

Interesting that they put military men in all sorts of positions, some not even beginning to have a clue as to what to do, yet a position like this, which screams for the expertise that I presume that a high caliber military man should have, they put Ramjattan.

One of the few time I agree with you , dont jump for joy and expect a medal. Teach the other GNI brothers to be brave enough to criticize the PRESENT government .I am not here to shower praise, but to identify the faults of all government.

K
skeldon_man posted:
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You failed to see my point. It was about an inherited broken criminal system.

They did inherit a broken system just as they inherited a bankrupt Guysuco. You see you are too terrified that Jagdeo gives you a bytch slap to admit to these facts.

I can criticize Granger for making excuses instead of beginning to fix the problem. I can tell him that the only noises I want from his mouth is him itemizing what he has done.

You cannot admit the warts of the PPP.

FM
kp posted:
. Teach the other GNI brothers to be brave enough to criticize the PRESENT government ...

Except for probably Mars none of us who supported the coalition government lavish praises on them today. In fact we are quite critical of them.

I look forward to the day when you tell Jagdeo to stop screaming about Guysuco in its current state and start to admit that it is where it is because HE destroyed it.  The first day Granger got into office Guysuco bellowed and screamed that it was going to lay off thousands of people and shut down operations unless it got an IMMEDIATE bail out.

FM
caribny posted:
kp posted:
. Teach the other GNI brothers to be brave enough to criticize the PRESENT government ...

Except for probably Mars none of us who supported the coalition government lavish praises on them today. In fact we are quite critical of them.

I look forward to the day when you tell Jagdeo to stop screaming about Guysuco in its current state and start to admit that it is where it is because HE destroyed it.  The first day Granger got into office Guysuco bellowed and screamed that it was going to lay off thousands of people and shut down operations unless it got an IMMEDIATE bail out.

Ever so often your poor bruised ego is reminded of the last time it has been bytch slapped by Mars and you have to make up some bullshit lies to soothe it. Keep my name out of your Anansi stories and get on without involving me. When have you seen me "lavishing praises" on the current government? If you can retrieve what I just wrote about the prison situation or Guysuco, you'll see that my perspective is balanced and objective. My views are based on facts first and not race first like you and that's why you always have to take a dig at me, because I'm not of your skin tone. The problem with you supporting the current government is that it is too Indian for you from day one. It has been tainted by forming alliances with too many non-blacks. You don't fool me in any way. Regardless of what you may say here, I know your kind and you're the most dangerous. It's no coincidence that Ramjattan and Nagamootoo are the ones you're most critical of in the current government.

Mars
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Mars posted:
caribny posted:
 

. The problem with you supporting the current government is that it is too Indian for you from day one. 

Really? And here was I hearing all about how its an "African government intent on punishing Indians". Most recently by "attempting to restrict the importation of Indian wear".

Now I told you that Moses would be side lined and I have been proven correct. I challenge you to prove that Moses has any impact an any aspect of governance in Guyana.  In fact they repeatedly make Ramjattan look like an idiot when his job should have been performed by someone with background to actually be effective.

BTW the notion of you bytch slapping me as a laugh.  You are as silly as Nehru and druggie with their slavish defense of the PPP. Instead you frequently post propaganda items for the coalition government.

FM

And Mars you will note that I almost never mention Moses and Ramjattan, seeing that they are trivial and are of no consequence.

My criticisms are always aimed at Granger and especially at Harmon. When last I checked neither man was an Indian.

In fact I scarcely even refer to the coalition gov't, referring to what it is and that is an APNU regime.

FM
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caribny posted:
skeldon_man posted:
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You failed to see my point. It was about an inherited broken criminal system.

They did inherit a broken system just as they inherited a bankrupt Guysuco. You see you are too terrified that Jagdeo gives you a bytch slap to admit to these facts.

I can criticize Granger for making excuses instead of beginning to fix the problem. I can tell him that the only noises I want from his mouth is him itemizing what he has done.

You cannot admit the warts of the PPP.

Caribj, you are clever for dunces.  I know your style for 15 years and see you thru and thru.

You jump on firing Ramjattan, a very convenient way of stripping out a "coolie" and from the AFC and replace with a "kit and kin" croonie from the PNC!

The inherited a "bankrupt" Guysuco?  Well the PPP inherited a bankrupt nation and this is when Guysuco still enjoyed subsidies!!

Baseman gone till whenever!!

FM
ba$eman posted:
caribny posted:
skeldon_man posted:
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You failed to see my point. It was about an inherited broken criminal system.

They did inherit a broken system just as they inherited a bankrupt Guysuco. You see you are too terrified that Jagdeo gives you a bytch slap to admit to these facts.

I can criticize Granger for making excuses instead of beginning to fix the problem. I can tell him that the only noises I want from his mouth is him itemizing what he has done.

You cannot admit the warts of the PPP.

Caribj, you are clever for dunces.  I know your style for 15 years and see you thru and thru.

You jump on firing Ramjattan, a very convenient way of stripping out a "coolie" and from the AFC and replace with a "kit and kin" croonie from the PNC!

The inherited a "bankrupt" Guysuco?  Well the PPP inherited a bankrupt nation and this is when Guysuco still enjoyed subsidies!!

Baseman gone till whenever!!

You peep made a statement and gone !!!

Django

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