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Jan 29,2018.

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Government has decided that there will be a Commission of Inquiry (CoI) into the deaths of hundreds of persons during the unprecedented six-year crime wave here from 2002 and the members of the commission will be named this week, Minister of State Joseph Harmon yesterday said.

“Before the end of the week,” Harmon said when asked following the commissioning of four bridges at Alexander Village, Georgetown.

While he did not give a definitive make-up of the commission, Harmon  informed that it would comprise as many as three persons and a judge would definitely be among the members.

President David Granger last week signaled that a COI was being mulled when he addressed members of the Guyana Defence Force (GDF,) at the opening ceremony of the Annual Officers’ Conference at Base Camp Ayanganna. He said that his administration will ensure that the perpetrators are brought to justice.

“Society has been scarred by violence, which left a lingering legacy of distrust with the potential of fresh disorder. Monuments at Bartica, Buxton and Eve Leary have been erected to the victims of violence during the ‘troubles’ between 2002 and 2009. We still have an obligation to investigate those troubles and ensure that the culprits are brought to justice,” he said, while noting that there were 1,431 murders in that period.

Following the February 23rd, 2002 Camp Street prison jailbreak, there was an unprecedented crime wave, with armed robberies and murders, including hits on police, reaching unprecedented levels across the country. Some kidnappings and high-profile murders were fueled in part by narco-trafficking and disputes between rival organisations, while then former President Bharrat Jagdeo’s government was accused of supporting the activities of a vigilante “phantom” death squad. That squad was  believed to have been led by convicted drug trafficker Roger Khan who claimed that he helped the Jagdeo government in its crime fight against targeted criminals.  Three massacres, at Lusignan, Bartica and Lindo Creek in 2008, also occurred during this period.

Harmon said that Granger always felt that there should be closure for the families of those killed and had, even as the then Leader of the Opposition, brought a motion to Parliament asking that there be a CoI. “At some point in time, you have to bring closure to some things and I believe that is what the President is saying. We have to bring closure. Under the laws of Guyana, any crime where there is an unnatural death, the law requires that an inquest is held under the Coroner’s Inquest Act…Now he is president, he is in a position to do something about it. I want to assure you he will do something about it. When the president says something he means it,” Harmon stressed while noting that getting information is not an issue.

“There are still people who are out there who were never called upon to give a statement. Families who are there, who just heard that something happened… Something has to be done about it. We have to bring closure to these wounds and I think this is what the president is suggesting,” he added.

Jagdeo, under whose Presidency the killings began, told a news conference on Saturday  that he would be willing to testify if a CoI was set up.

“If there is something that we know specifically of, definitely,” Jagdeo said.

He noted that the current government “keeps pulling out the hat this thing about ‘the troubled period,’” adding that President Granger has been speaking of an inquiry of this nature for some time and had previously indicated his intention to establish a CoI which he (Jagdeo) has consistently dared him to do.

“It has been almost three years and I dared him to do it and I suggested in the past that I would like to work with him on the Terms of Reference [ToRs] because we should look at the political operatives who were working with the drug dealers…,” Jagdeo said, while pointing out that the sitting government ministers who were accused of collaborating with criminals during that period should be placed under the microscope.

“So, I would love to have a Commission of Inquiry into the troubled period and why not extend it a little bit more to the past and bring it up to the future too. We can have a big CoI,” he said, before adding that in addition to good ToRs there should be credible commissioners. “Then you will see how politically-inspired many of the killings were in that period… that they got political support, the criminals. That’s the difference today,” he said, while noting that the PPP/C has an unambiguous position on crime.

Harmon was asked yesterday how his government intended to safeguard against the possibility of the CoI being politicised moreso with local government elections this year and the 2020 General and Regional Elections.

He said that the issue was a serious one that needed to be frontally dealt with from an apolitical vantage point and it is what government will ensure.

“I don’t know about safeguards. This is about fact-finding, this is about issues of fact and for the CoI to determine what happened, when it happened, who was involved and therefore what actions needs to be taken,” Harmon posited.

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When will Roger Khan be released and deported to Guyana? Will it likely be during the upcoming COI hearings? In view of recently passed witness protection legislation, can Roger Khan appear before the COI as a State witness in exchange for immunity? Please enlighten me.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

When will Roger Khan be released and deported to Guyana? Will it likely be during the upcoming COI hearings? In view of recently passed witness protection legislation, can Roger Khan appear before the COI as a State witness in exchange for immunity? Please enlighten me.

Bhai,

You are asking some tough questions.

Khan can give evidence via video conferencing.

Here is an article on sentencing.

Roger Khan to spend 15 years in jail.

Source

October 16,2009.

Drug smuggler Shaheed Roger Khan was sentenced to 30 years imprisonment on charges of drug smuggling, witness tampering and gun possession in Vermont at 3 pm today at the US Eastern District Court in Brooklyn.

Justice Dora L. Irizarry, imposing the sentences after a one-hour summation, said that they would run concurrently, which means that Khan will only serve 15 years in prison.

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

Django
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Dave posted:

Djanjo, I wouldn’t be surprise they call you to testify. 

What makes you think Django hasn't started doing his research on Guyana's crime spree? He might create a fake dossier for Granger and his crew. He will be compensated handsomely.

FM
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When will Roger Khan be released and deported to Guyana? Will it likely be during the upcoming COI hearings? In view of recently passed witness protection legislation, can Roger Khan appear before the COI as a State witness in exchange for immunity? Please enlighten me.

Bhai,

You are asking some tough questions.

Khan can give evidence via video conferencing.

Here is an article on sentencing.

Roger Khan to spend 15 years in jail.

Source

October 16,2009.

Drug smuggler Shaheed Roger Khan was sentenced to 30 years imprisonment on charges of drug smuggling, witness tampering and gun possession in Vermont at 3 pm today at the US Eastern District Court in Brooklyn.

Justice Dora L. Irizarry, imposing the sentences after a one-hour summation, said that they would run concurrently, which means that Khan will only serve 15 years in prison.

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

You see Django, the same thing I said about creating a fake dossier and research. Looks like you already did.

FM
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Djanjo, I wouldn’t be surprise they call you to testify. 

Banna, you got to be kidding.

Nope. Knows what I am saying.

PPP was in govt for 23 years, connections are still there with current employees . 

Have a good day Djanjo. 

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:

Djanjo, I wouldn’t be surprise they call you to testify. 

What makes you think Django hasn't started doing his research on Guyana's crime spree? He might create a fake dossier for Granger and his crew. He will be compensated handsomely.

Well bhai,

the power of modern technology and looking for the right info,one can do any research.

Today reading this article

20 Surprising Things You Can Do With Google Search.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/slideshow/307966

Django
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Djanjo, I wouldn’t be surprise they call you to testify. 

Banna, you got to be kidding.

Nope. Knows what I am saying.

PPP was in govt for 23 years, connections are still there with current employees . 

Have a good day Djanjo. 

Bhai,

Clear up the mysterious sentence.

Django
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When will Roger Khan be released and deported to Guyana? Will it likely be during the upcoming COI hearings? In view of recently passed witness protection legislation, can Roger Khan appear before the COI as a State witness in exchange for immunity? Please enlighten me.

Bhai,

You are asking some tough questions.

Khan can give evidence via video conferencing.

Here is an article on sentencing.

Roger Khan to spend 15 years in jail.

Source

October 16,2009.

Drug smuggler Shaheed Roger Khan was sentenced to 30 years imprisonment on charges of drug smuggling, witness tampering and gun possession in Vermont at 3 pm today at the US Eastern District Court in Brooklyn.

Justice Dora L. Irizarry, imposing the sentences after a one-hour summation, said that they would run concurrently, which means that Khan will only serve 15 years in prison.

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

You see Django, the same thing I said about creating a fake dossier and research. Looks like you already did.

Ok...ok... can you point out what is fake.

Django
Last edited by Django

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

You did the math,possibly Khan could testify.

Django
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

That’s if the PPP don’t bump him off before he faces the COI. Remember what happened to George Bacchus when he was scheduled to testify before their COI. Dead men tell no tales.

Mars
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When will Roger Khan be released and deported to Guyana? Will it likely be during the upcoming COI hearings? In view of recently passed witness protection legislation, can Roger Khan appear before the COI as a State witness in exchange for immunity? Please enlighten me.

Bhai,

You are asking some tough questions.

Khan can give evidence via video conferencing.

Here is an article on sentencing.

Roger Khan to spend 15 years in jail.

Source

October 16,2009.

Drug smuggler Shaheed Roger Khan was sentenced to 30 years imprisonment on charges of drug smuggling, witness tampering and gun possession in Vermont at 3 pm today at the US Eastern District Court in Brooklyn.

Justice Dora L. Irizarry, imposing the sentences after a one-hour summation, said that they would run concurrently, which means that Khan will only serve 15 years in prison.

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

You see Django, the same thing I said about creating a fake dossier and research. Looks like you already did.

Ok...ok... can you point out what is fake.

Django bai, "creating" and "created" are different. One is present tense and the other is past tense. Go figure out which is which.

FM
Mars posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

That’s if the PPP don’t bump him off before he faces the COI. Remember what happened to George Bacchus when he was scheduled to testify before their COI. Dead men tell no tales.

Remember the PNC's sympathy killing of Crum Ewing before the elections? Will this come up too? Will they investigate Blackie, the PNC terrorist Martyr?

FM

bar-rat open his big mouth and challenge the government  i hope roger rat on him i hear roger refer to him as a antiman before at buddy pool hall when he was hanging with roger and his dogs 

FM
skeldon_man posted:

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

You see Django, the same thing I said about creating a fake dossier and research. Looks like you already did.

Ok...ok... can you point out what is fake.

Django bai, "creating" and "created" are different. One is present tense and the other is past tense. Go figure out which is which.

Is that the way to wiggle out ? you mek me hand fall,thought better of you.

Django
Last edited by Django
skeldon_man posted:
Mars posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

That’s if the PPP don’t bump him off before he faces the COI. Remember what happened to George Bacchus when he was scheduled to testify before their COI. Dead men tell no tales.

Remember the PNC's sympathy killing of Crum Ewing before the elections? Will this come up too? Will they investigate Blackie, the PNC terrorist Martyr?

Nice try on Crum-Ewing. Another one of your fake news stories. They should get include Blackie’s killing. From all reports, he was killed after he surrendered and was unarmed. 

I’m all for a broad based investigation into the killings and political unrest that happened around that time. This will probably just be a charade to make the PPP look bad as the Rodney investigation was just a PPP political stunt.

 

 

 

 

Mars
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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

You see Django, the same thing I said about creating a fake dossier and research. Looks like you already did.

Ok...ok... can you point out what is fake.

Django bai, "creating" and "created" are different. One is present tense and the other is past tense. Go figure out which is which.

Is that the way to wiggle out ? you mek me hand fall,thought better of you.

That's not wiggling out. I was just making a point and enlightening you on what was written. Now you can go back and correct it.

FM
Mars posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mars posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

That’s if the PPP don’t bump him off before he faces the COI. Remember what happened to George Bacchus when he was scheduled to testify before their COI. Dead men tell no tales.

Remember the PNC's sympathy killing of Crum Ewing before the elections? Will this come up too? Will they investigate Blackie, the PNC terrorist Martyr?

Nice try on Crum-Ewing. Another one of your fake news stories. They should get include Blackie’s killing. From all reports, he was killed after he surrendered and was unarmed. 

 

 

 

 

Is that what your handlers told you?

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

You see Django, the same thing I said about creating a fake dossier and research. Looks like you already did.

Ok...ok... can you point out what is fake.

Django bai, "creating" and "created" are different. One is present tense and the other is past tense. Go figure out which is which.

Is that the way to wiggle out ? you mek me hand fall,thought better of you.

That's not wiggling out. I was just making a point and enlightening you on what was written. Now you can go back and correct it.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Here is the link  https://wikileaks.org/plusd/ca...GEORGETOWN112_a.html on Khan runnings in Guyana.

You see Django, the same thing I said about creating a fake dossier and research. Looks like you already did.

Ok...ok... can you point out what is fake.

Django bai, "creating" and "created" are different. One is present tense and the other is past tense. Go figure out which is which.

Is that the way to wiggle out ? you mek me hand fall,thought better of you.

That's not wiggling out. I was just making a point and enlightening you on what was written. Now you can go back and correct it.

Yeah! You were looking up my ass taking a shit!

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Mars posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mars posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

That’s if the PPP don’t bump him off before he faces the COI. Remember what happened to George Bacchus when he was scheduled to testify before their COI. Dead men tell no tales.

Remember the PNC's sympathy killing of Crum Ewing before the elections? Will this come up too? Will they investigate Blackie, the PNC terrorist Martyr?

Nice try on Crum-Ewing. Another one of your fake news stories. They should get include Blackie’s killing. From all reports, he was killed after he surrendered and was unarmed. 

 

 

 

 

Is that what your handlers told you?

Dummy, can’t you come up with something original for a change. I said from all reports. If you read the newspaper reports on that issue, you’ll see that is what they stated. 

Mars
Mars posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mars posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mars posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, 15 years jail time = 10 years real time.

10 years from 2009 = 2019. Next year. If the COI is probing over 1,000 killings its work will run into next year, not so?

So, it's possible that Khan could face the COI.

That’s if the PPP don’t bump him off before he faces the COI. Remember what happened to George Bacchus when he was scheduled to testify before their COI. Dead men tell no tales.

Remember the PNC's sympathy killing of Crum Ewing before the elections? Will this come up too? Will they investigate Blackie, the PNC terrorist Martyr?

Nice try on Crum-Ewing. Another one of your fake news stories. They should get include Blackie’s killing. From all reports, he was killed after he surrendered and was unarmed. 

 

 

 

 

Is that what your handlers told you?

Dummy, can’t you come up with something original for a change. I said from all reports. If you read the newspaper reports on that issue, you’ll see that is what they stated. 

This is a good sign for all Guyanese. I hope they include previous years...not sure if they will include the 28 PNC years, but we need some reconciliation. 

For those of you who think this is ALL about the PPP and drug trade...think again...the escapees from prison, as I recall, call themselves "freedom fighters". Fineman (those of you familiar with Guyana history can correct me) was a patron of the PNC...buried in the PNC flag. Its wrong that the PNC is now trying to link the violence to the PPP, while absolving themselves. I am sure the PPP and the PNC have many skeletons in their respective closets. 

Guyanese need cleansing from all sides...PNC and PPP...no one should take the moral high ground here...

 

V

Jagdeo has the opportunity to present the video with the Buxton Criminals and PNC politicians. 

 

Nigel Hudge will have to answer question about Brian Hamilton missing video and why he cross police tape.

Would the investigation go back to Granger time in rigging the election. Or is this an opportunity to pay money to his Army friends .

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...ton-informants-pncr/

FM
VishMahabir posted:
 

 

This is a good sign for all Guyanese. I hope they include previous years...not sure if they will include the 28 PNC years, but we need some reconciliation. 

For those of you who think this is ALL about the PPP and drug trade...think again...the escapees from prison, as I recall, call themselves "freedom fighters". Fineman (those of you familiar with Guyana history can correct me) was a patron of the PNC...buried in the PNC flag. Its wrong that the PNC is now trying to link the violence to the PPP, while absolving themselves. I am sure the PPP and the PNC have many skeletons in their respective closets. 

Guyanese need cleansing from all sides...PNC and PPP...no one should take the moral high ground here...

 

Vish, this quite positive of you. Nice. 

Mitwah

Benscope was the individual who film the notorious criminal Andrew Douglas holding a AK47 next to the Guyana flag in Buxton . In attendance was CN SHARMA .

Let go Granger ... lots of public figure going down with this investigation . 

FM
Mitwah posted:
VishMahabir posted:
 

 

This is a good sign for all Guyanese. I hope they include previous years...not sure if they will include the 28 PNC years, but we need some reconciliation. 

For those of you who think this is ALL about the PPP and drug trade...think again...the escapees from prison, as I recall, call themselves "freedom fighters". Fineman (those of you familiar with Guyana history can correct me) was a patron of the PNC...buried in the PNC flag. Its wrong that the PNC is now trying to link the violence to the PPP, while absolving themselves. I am sure the PPP and the PNC have many skeletons in their respective closets. 

Guyanese need cleansing from all sides...PNC and PPP...no one should take the moral high ground here...

 

Vish, this quite positive of you. Nice. 

I am a positive guy...and you are not being called a Knucklehead   

V
VishMahabir posted:

This is a good sign for all Guyanese. I hope they include previous years...not sure if they will include the 28 PNC years, but we need some reconciliation. 

For those of you who think this is ALL about the PPP and drug trade...think again...the escapees from prison, as I recall, call themselves "freedom fighters". Fineman (those of you familiar with Guyana history can correct me) was a patron of the PNC...buried in the PNC flag. Its wrong that the PNC is now trying to link the violence to the PPP, while absolving themselves. I am sure the PPP and the PNC have many skeletons in their respective closets. 

Guyanese need cleansing from all sides...PNC and PPP...no one should take the moral high ground here...

 

You're mistaken about Fineman's funeral as a few others here who parrot the same thing without knowing what transpired. Fineman's coffin was draped with a flag of the Rastafarian movement (ites, gold and green). See the report here - https://www.stabroeknews.com/2...awlins-laid-to-rest/

The notorious criminal who received PNC support at his funeral was Blackie. The reasoning being that he was killed by the security forces after he surrendered and was unarmed at the time.

This COI will most likely be another grand waste of time and money like the Rodney COI held by the PPP to malign the PNC before the 2015 election. They will stretch it out so that it lasts all the way to the 2020 elections and it will be tailored to paint the PPP as the bad guy during the crime wave of the early 2000's. 

Mars
VishMahabir posted:
Dave posted:

Dave...did somebody write this or is this from the Guyana Govt agency?  Is it PPP gov or coalition govt...cant seem to find the source...

Thanks

No, nobody wrote it Knucklehead! It just showed up one day without anyone writing it.

Mars
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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted: That's not wiggling out. I was just making a point and enlightening you on what was written. Now you can go back and correct it.
 

Django, how dare you disrespect Teacher Skelwah, eh?

FM
Mars posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Dave posted:

Dave...did somebody write this or is this from the Guyana Govt agency?  Is it PPP gov or coalition govt...cant seem to find the source...

Thanks

No, nobody wrote it Knucklehead! It just showed up one day without anyone writing it.

Mars Bars, tek um easy with the use of knucklehead (getting tired of you people stealing my word), I was wondering if it was from a propaganda mouth piece ....so this is Winston McGowan who wrote dis piece.??

Somebody enlighten me nah?

V

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