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The abandoned Beechcraft on the 5,400 foot airstrip, which were both discovered on Sunday

The Guyana Defence Force (GDF), the Guyana Police Force’s (GPF) Criminal Investigations Department (CID), the Customs Anti-Narcotics Unit (CANU), the Guyana Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) and other related agencies, on Monday, conducted an initial assessment of a twin-engine Beechcraft aircraft, which was discovered in an area in Upper Takutu-Upper Essequibo (Region Nine) on Sunday evening.

According to State Minister Joseph Harmon, this initial assessment is an effort to gather evidence that will assist in the investigation into the circumstances, which led to the aircraft being abandoned on an illegal airstrip.

Harmon declared that the Government expects a full investigation into this serious national security issue.

The discovery of this airstrip and aircraft follows the discovery of another illegal airstrip in Yurupukari, Region Nine in September 2015.

Investigations later revealed that the plane had originated in Colombia.

Guyana’s vast land and airspace makes the country vulnerable to transnational security threats. The Minister said that the Government is working with local and international partners to build capacity and strengthen security.

“The Government is extremely concerned.  We are concerned that that these aircrafts are utilising our large gaps in the security coverage in the hinterland areas, but we are looking carefully to see how we can have a proper coverage of those areas,” he said.

The State Minister also said that Government recognises that over a period of years, there are those who have taken advantage of the lack of adequate resources to properly monitor those areas. He added that the administration is taking this matter very seriously and is making every effort to better equip the security forces and strengthen their capacity to secure Guyana’s territory.

The interior of the abandoned Beechcraft

He also called on Guyanese citizens to play their part and to ensure that illegal activities, regardless of the location in which they take place, are reported to the relevant authorities.

“Guyanese are a part of the country’s national security apparatus. We would like to ask them to report any activity they may consider illegal. It is illegal for any aircraft to land or be in Guyana unless they have the permission of the Government and the GCAA. While we have large expanses of land in the Rupununi that can be used for airstrips, it is illegal to have these airstrips. We should see ourselves playing an important part in our country,” Minister Harmon said.

Commander of ‘F’ Division, Mr. Ravindradat Budhram, in an invited comment, said that the 5,400-foot long, 45-foot wide airstrip appeared to have undergone recent repairs. This strip had been discovered and destroyed by the GDF only a few years ago.  Furthermore, it is located approximately five miles from another illegal airstrip, which was discovered last week by a GDF patrol that was on a reconnaissance mission at the time.

According the Commander Budhram, having received information from an unnamed source that the airstrip was being used, investigating ranks visited the site and were leaving the area when they observed an aircraft circling some distance away. The aircraft landed while the ranks were making their way back to the airstrip. They reported that they saw some persons running into the bush.

Commander Budhram said that following the discovery of the plane an extensive search was mounted by a Joint Services team for the men, who had been observed fleeing.  That search continues.

The Divisional Commander, however, noted that a search of the area unearthed three abandoned camps, in which canned food and other items were found.  Additionally, 16 10-gallon containers, which are suspected to have contained aviation fuel, were also discovered.  During the search of the aircraft, several pieces of communication equipment, including cellular phones, flashlights, a quantity of dried ration, medical supplies and an identification card were discovered.

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You know that Deoki is the mother of Krishna; just in case you did not visit my Janmashtami tread.  There are no problems with my work, the faults seems to be with your cut and paste. Ask your sidekick Baseboard to help you. 

Is this a second plane that was discovered?

Mitwah
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

Full investigation into Colombia aircraft, illegal airstrip discovery expected- Harmon

The Guyana Defence Force (GDF), the Guyana Police Force’s (GPF) Criminal Investigations Department (CID), the Customs Anti-Narcotics Unit (CANU), the Guyana Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) and other related agencies, on Monday, conducted an initial assessment of a twin-engine Beechcraft aircraft, which was discovered in an area in Upper Takutu-Upper Essequibo (Region Nine) on Sunday evening.

According to State Minister Joseph Harmon, this initial assessment is an effort to gather evidence that will assist in the investigation into the circumstances, which led to the aircraft being abandoned on an illegal airstrip.

Harmon declared that the Government expects a full investigation into this serious national security issue.

The discovery of this airstrip and aircraft follows the discovery of another illegal airstrip in Yurupukari, Region Nine in September 2015.

Investigations later revealed that the plane had originated in Colombia.

Perhaps, the government is unaware of the happenings in the country in that air strips are being built without their knowledge.

Also of interest is how many other such planes have thus entered the country illegally.

FM

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

Bibi Haniffa
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Demerara_Guy posted:
 

Perhaps, the government is unaware of the happenings in the country in that air strips are being built without their knowledge.

Also of interest is how many other such planes have thus entered the country illegally.

D_G,

Does the Government of Guyana have the resources to police "at any time " the forest and porous borders of the Country.

Django

The Government of Guyana probably doesn't have the expertise to track planes.  But one of the most difficult thing to do is hide a plane. Inmarsat and other satellite communications and radar tracking outfits can pick up planes anywhere in the world.  A plane's flight path can be pick up by Air traffic controllers as well.

Planes don't just appear and disappear.  Someone in Guyana knows the whereabouts of these two planes. 

Bibi Haniffa
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Guyana Government has the onus to ensure its borders are supervised.

The illegal planes are the specific issue.

All countries are faced with illegal items concealed in vehicles, bodies of individuals or other means.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Copying and pasting is no longer allowed on this forum.  We are looking for original, intelligent ideas from people of sound mind.

That leaves you out along with a few others.

cain
Demerara_Guy posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Planes don't just appear and disappear.  Someone in Guyana knows the whereabouts of these two planes. 

Correct.

How about the plane that had it's own hangar, now grounded for illegal activities. The one used by the PPP bigwigs. I wonder if anyone knew their flight plan, or when they appeared/disappeared.

cain
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cain posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Planes don't just appear and disappear.  Someone in Guyana knows the whereabouts of these two planes. 

Correct.

How about the plane that had it's own hangar, now grounded for illegal activities. The one used by the PPP bigwigs. I wonder if anyone knew their flight plan, or when they appeared/disappeared.

You still suffering from the PPP itch.  Let's stick with the flight plan here.  We talking about the PNC bigwigs now!

Bibi Haniffa
cain posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Planes don't just appear and disappear.  Someone in Guyana knows the whereabouts of these two planes. 

Correct.

How about the plane that had it's own hangar, now grounded for illegal activities. The one used by the PPP bigwigs. I wonder if anyone knew their flight plan, or when they appeared/disappeared.

The topic/issue relates to the specific item on ....

"Full investigation into Colombia aircraft, illegal airstrip discovery expected- Harmon"

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
cain posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Planes don't just appear and disappear.  Someone in Guyana knows the whereabouts of these two planes. 

Correct.

How about the plane that had it's own hangar, now grounded for illegal activities. The one used by the PPP bigwigs. I wonder if anyone knew their flight plan, or when they appeared/disappeared.

You still suffering from the PPP itch.  Let's stick with the flight plan here.  We talking about the PNC bigwigs now!

Mitwah
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

plane can enter any country illegally 

FM
warrior posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

plane can enter any country illegally 

Better watch out or you will be told;

The topic/issue relates to the specific item on ....

"Full investigation into Colombia aircraft, illegal airstrip discovery expected- Harmon"

cain
Bibi Haniffa posted:
cain posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Planes don't just appear and disappear.  Someone in Guyana knows the whereabouts of these two planes. 

Correct.

How about the plane that had it's own hangar, now grounded for illegal activities. The one used by the PPP bigwigs. I wonder if anyone knew their flight plan, or when they appeared/disappeared.

You still suffering from the PPP itch.  Let's stick with the flight plan here.  We talking about the PNC bigwigs now!

you people joking or know nothing about guyana plane was entering guyana illegally a long time now 

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Copying and pasting is no longer allowed on this forum.  We are looking for original, intelligent ideas from people of sound mind.

Unfortunately you are a desert where originality is concerned.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

Woman, Guyana cannot patrol its airspace, as tiny as it is. Guyana needs active radar tech and it is a long way from getting it. Mool Persaud had his own base in Crabwood creek to support his drug business. He burned an eastern block made plane to cover his tracks when it was accidentally discovered. 

FM
D2 posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

Woman, Guyana cannot patrol its airspace, as tiny as it is. Guyana needs active radar tech and it is a long way from getting it. Mool Persaud had his own base in Crabwood creek to support his drug business. He burned an eastern block made plane to cover his tracks when it was accidentally discovered. 

This is not what you mooks were saying during PPP time. You blamed them if a black stump his toe or a buck man sell his daughter into prostitution. 

FM
Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

Woman, Guyana cannot patrol its airspace, as tiny as it is. Guyana needs active radar tech and it is a long way from getting it. Mool Persaud had his own base in Crabwood creek to support his drug business. He burned an eastern block made plane to cover his tracks when it was accidentally discovered. 

This is not what you mooks were saying during PPP time. You blamed them if a black stump his toe or a buck man sell his daughter into prostitution. 

You act as a casual simpleton with these stupid retorts. There were endless streams of issues and wrongs for which the PPP was culpable so one never had to invent grievances for them. The issue here is about surveilling the skies and not now or then did anyone say Guyana could do it with any degree of reliability. The lady above is wrongly insisting they can. If you want to know what I said back then check. My comments are most likely still on the side.

FM
D2 posted:
 There were endless streams of issues and wrongs for which the PPP was culpable so one never had to invent grievances for them. The issue here is about surveilling the skies and not now or then did anyone say Guyana could do it with any degree of reliability. The lady above is wrongly insisting they can. If you want to know what I said back then check. My comments are most likely still on the side.

No the issues is that as a PNC apologist, you and the other gullible one have suddenly developed an conscience now that your party is in power. You will pull reasons out from under the rug to excuse blatant corruption and incompetence being perpetrated under their watch. 

Clearly the PNC is involved in the drug trade to supplement their failure in managing the economy. Imagine an airstrip built and running without the govt being aware in such a small airspace. 

FM
warrior posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

plane can enter any country illegally 

Now that PNC is in charge, they allow the PPP drug lords to bring their goods duty free for a little kick back..like say 25%. Granger and Harmun will sell the plane and keep the cash. Harmun will need to shrink his goady to accommodate the extra bag of cash.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
warrior posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

plane can enter any country illegally 

Now that PNC is in charge, they allow the PPP drug lords to bring their goods duty free for a little kick back..like say 25%. Granger and Harmun will sell the plane and keep the cash. Harmun will need to shrink his goady to accommodate the extra bag of cash.

Looks like conceding to the truths.

Django
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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
warrior posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It's highly unlikely that a plane can enter a country illegally.  Guyana has a small airspace, planes would likely have to cross another country to enter Guyana unless the plane belongs to one of the bordering countries. 

plane can enter any country illegally 

Now that PNC is in charge, they allow the PPP drug lords to bring their goods duty free for a little kick back..like say 25%. Granger and Harmun will sell the plane and keep the cash. Harmun will need to shrink his goady to accommodate the extra bag of cash.

Looks like conceding to the truths.

The same was true when the PPP was in charge. They allowed the PNC and AFC drug lords to do the same and got the same benefits. WE Even now.

FM
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Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
 There were endless streams of issues and wrongs for which the PPP was culpable so one never had to invent grievances for them. The issue here is about surveilling the skies and not now or then did anyone say Guyana could do it with any degree of reliability. The lady above is wrongly insisting they can. If you want to know what I said back then check. My comments are most likely still on the side.

No the issues is that as a PNC apologist, you and the other gullible one have suddenly developed an conscience now that your party is in power. You will pull reasons out from under the rug to excuse blatant corruption and incompetence being perpetrated under their watch. 

Clearly the PNC is involved in the drug trade to supplement their failure in managing the economy. Imagine an airstrip built and running without the govt being aware in such a small airspace. 

Sorry, I am not as soft in the head as you. I do not bend the knees to anyone or any ideology that is unjust. I supported the APNU as a pragmatic choice to cease the wholesale robbery of our state. While the PNC has made no such moves at the moment I am certain they will and have said so even before the elections. It is what inevitably happens given our racial polarity and our Constitution. It takes good men to make the right choices in light of these circumstances but none has arisen in Guyana these past few decades. Lacking constitution changes we are more of the same.

FM
D2 posted: 

Sorry, I am not as soft in the head as you. I do not bend the knees to anyone or any ideology that is unjust. I supported the APNU as a pragmatic choice to cease the wholesale robbery of our state. While the PNC has made no such moves at the moment I am certain they will and have said so even before the elections. It is what inevitably happens given our racial polarity and our Constitution. It takes good men to make the right choices in light of these circumstances but none has arisen in Guyana these past few decades. Lacking constitution changes we are more of the same.

Clearly words of a hypocrite for someone who has no skin in the game, you who are planning to retire in Spain.

FM
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
 There were endless streams of issues and wrongs for which the PPP was culpable so one never had to invent grievances for them. The issue here is about surveilling the skies and not now or then did anyone say Guyana could do it with any degree of reliability. The lady above is wrongly insisting they can. If you want to know what I said back then check. My comments are most likely still on the side.

No the issues is that as a PNC apologist, you and the other gullible one have suddenly developed an conscience now that your party is in power. You will pull reasons out from under the rug to excuse blatant corruption and incompetence being perpetrated under their watch. 

Clearly the PNC is involved in the drug trade to supplement their failure in managing the economy. Imagine an airstrip built and running without the govt being aware in such a small airspace. 

Sorry, I am not as soft in the head as you. I do not bend the knees to anyone or any ideology that is unjust. I supported the APNU as a pragmatic choice to cease the wholesale robbery of our state. While the PNC has made no such moves at the moment I am certain they will and have said so even before the elections. It is what inevitably happens given our racial polarity and our Constitution. It takes good men to make the right choices in light of these circumstances but none has arisen in Guyana these past few decades. Lacking constitution changes we are more of the same.

Hogwash. What are they doing now? What do you mean to say "Our State"? You know nothing about Guyana, yet you are an expert on Guyana.

FM

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