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The robot scabs are coming to take your jobs

 

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  • Most people eventually won't work because robots will take their jobs, Don Howard says
  • Computers are replacing lawyers, doctors and people in many other professions, he says
 

Don Howard is professor of philosophy and a fellow in the John J. Reilly Center for Science, Technology and Values at the University of Notre Dame. He is the author of several books, including "The Challenge of the Social and the Pressure of Practice: Science and Values Revisited." The opinions expressed in this commentary are his.

(CNN)If you live in a developed or rapidly developing nation, you and your children will grow old in a world in which most people will not work, because the robots will take your jobs.

Every new report shows the machine replacement of human labor is accelerating, with job creation by new technology no longer keeping up with job loss. Last month it was a sophisticated study from the National Bureau of Economic Research showing that industrial robots alone displace human workers at a stunning rate and have an even more depressive effect on wages. Last year a World Bank study found that 57% of jobs in Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development nations were vulnerable to replacement within the next 20 years. Many experts think this is a more serious problem than the export of jobs abroad.
How big is the problem? Consider just one example. In the United States, 3.5 million truck drivers could lose their jobs over the next decade as self-driving trucks hit the highways.
 
 
It would be a mistake to think the problem affects mainly manufacturing or low-skill jobs such as truck driving, although that is the sector of the economy where the impact of robotics and artificial intelligence on jobs is most visible. Just as mistaken is the idea that retraining displaced workers with high-tech skills is the solution to the problem, because the high-tech jobs are disappearing. Especially with advances in artificial intelligence, the bots are doing more of the intellectual labor once done by highly trained professionals.
Why your next hotel will be staffed by robots
 
Lawyers are losing out to bots that write routine contracts, wills and deeds. Architects and engineers no longer do the drafting work now done by computer-aided design software. Business writers are being displaced by AI that abstracts and summarizes corporate reports. And medical diagnosis is now in the hands of IBM's Watson.
You might think that humans still have to program the robots and code the AI. So you might add your voice to the chorus calling for every child to be taught how to code. But that won't guarantee your child a job, because more and more of the coding is now also done by the computers themselves.
Why is this happening? Partly it's economics. Robots are expensive, but they quickly pay for themselves. They work 24/7 without complaint, they don't need health insurance and they don't join unions. The real game changer, however, is the development of robots and AI that learn on the job.
With machine learning, we don't have to program beforehand every movement and every decision that the bots have to make. Just as a human can learn medical diagnostics, plumbing or policing, so, too, can the robots learn, except that the robots learn 100 times faster, they're never late for a lesson and they don't need weekends off.
 
3D printers + robots = manufacturing's future?
 
 
 
 
3D printers + robots = manufacturing's future? 01:06
What are the consequences? First, there is the economic challenge. Paid labor is the main way in which modern economies distribute wealth. We are already seeing the first signs of new social and economic stress. The top 1% grow ever wealthier, while wages and income for the other 99% stagnate or decline. That's partly due to greed, but it's more a consequence of the fact that, as machines replace human labor, ever fewer people draw paychecks.
Second is the psychological challenge. We tend to define ourselves by the work we do. If someone says to you, "Tell me about yourself," the first response you're likely to give is to describe your work: "I'm a teacher" or "an engineer" or "a nurse." But what if you have no work? Who are you then?
Would you let a robot perform your surgery by itself?
 
What is to be done? There is a possible solution to the economic challenge: universal basic income. Our economy still generates enormous wealth. The question is how to get that wealth to the people who need it.
The answer might be to provide every American with an income sufficient to buy the basics -- food, clothing, shelter and modest pleasures such as recreation and a bit of travel. There are details to work out, such as how high to set the basic income level so as to cover everyone's needs without turning everyone into a lazy bum. But the concept is straightforward, and its implementation could be surprisingly easy, perhaps building upon the Social Security system. Moreover the cost is reasonable. Divide current total US personal income, around $13 trillion, by current population, around 320 million, and we get a universal basic income around $40,000 per person. Not bad.
 
The harder problem is the psychological one and the attendant social and cultural problems. What happens to human nature in a world without work? Will we all become sloths? Or, freed from the need to work, might we find within ourselves a hidden Michelangelo, an unknown Patsy Cline or an undiscovered Maya Angelou? We might find out sooner than we think.
 

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Drugb posted:
cain posted:

How about a Robot Ho?

That is coming soon. Also PNC slop can carriers job are endangered as robo bloggers will take those positions. 

Your constant demeaning method of communication is detrimental to GNI,

keep on trucking you and few others behavior is putting the final nail,maybe that the motive to send GNI in to oblivion.

Django
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Django posted:
Drugb posted:
cain posted:

How about a Robot Ho?

That is coming soon. Also PNC slop can carriers job are endangered as robo bloggers will take those positions. 

Your constant demeaning method of communication is detrimental to GNI,

keep on trucking you and few others behavior is putting the final nail,maybe that the motive to send GNI in to oblivion.

Happ Easter to you Django. You seem to be all riled up whenever you see the words "slop can". Do you feel that slop can is referring to you? Do you feel insulted or demeaned by these words, even though your name is not referenced in the sentence? This not good for your psychological well being. That what happens when you associate yourself with slop cans.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
cain posted:

How about a Robot Ho?

That is coming soon. Also PNC slop can carriers job are endangered as robo bloggers will take those positions. 

Your constant demeaning method of communication is detrimental to GNI,

keep on trucking you and few others behavior is putting the final nail,maybe that the motive to send GNI in to oblivion.

Happ Easter to you Django. You seem to be all riled up whenever you see the words "slop can". Do you feel that slop can is referring to you? Do you feel insulted or demeaned by these words, even though your name is not referenced in the sentence? This not good for your psychological well being. That what happens when you associate yourself with slop cans.

Happy Easter Skelly,bhai in Guyana Easter is big celebration.

My psychological well being is intact,I detest arrogant fools as such they are exposed and i keep them at a distance if they can't reform.

The inventor of the demeaning word is trying to silence posters who does not conform with his belief,typical of the weak presenters in debates.

Nothing to do with association,i found the word distasteful in modern day vocabulary.

Django
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ksazma posted:

What happens when robots create goods and services that no one is able to buy? Do the goods and services go away or the robots?

In the end, human intelligence will decide.  The robots will not produce what they were not ordered to.  They will be vertically integrated in the ERP process of human life.  It's no different than today!

FM
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
cain posted:

How about a Robot Ho?

That is coming soon. Also PNC slop can carriers job are endangered as robo bloggers will take those positions. 

Your constant demeaning method of communication is detrimental to GNI,

keep on trucking you and few others behavior is putting the final nail,maybe that the motive to send GNI in to oblivion.

You seem drawn to this phrase, maybe indication of a guilty conscience? 

FM
ba$eman posted:
ksazma posted:

What happens when robots create goods and services that no one is able to buy? Do the goods and services go away or the robots?

In the end, human intelligence will decide.  The robots will not produce what they were not ordered to.  They will be vertically integrated in the ERP process of human life.  It's no different than today!

I am sure you have seen the terminator series. Maybe the next stage in robotics is artificial intelligence, with the ability to make decisions. It is quite possible. I remember years ago when I was taking AI courses and the concept of node of truths were the building blocks.  In fact that it is quite possible to mimic the human brain, with the exception of free will. 

FM
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
cain posted:

How about a Robot Ho?

That is coming soon. Also PNC slop can carriers job are endangered as robo bloggers will take those positions. 

Your constant demeaning method of communication is detrimental to GNI,

keep on trucking you and few others behavior is putting the final nail,maybe that the motive to send GNI in to oblivion.

You seem drawn to this phrase, maybe indication of a guilty conscience

Nothing to do with that,

Shows the mindset of the highly deemed Educated of your ilk.

Django
Drugb posted:
Django posted:

Nothing to do with that,

Shows the mindset of the highly deemed Educated of your ilk.

Sure, and you expect us to believe that? You the chief cook and bottle washer for PNC propaganda on this site? Remember even the educated don't always drink champagne, sometimes they drink beer.

Poor judgment,can't blame you,

I make post to show not everything is doom and gloom,usually i contradict the negativity that are posted here which irate your ilk.

Django
Django posted:

I make post to show not everything is doom and gloom,usually i contradict the negativity that are posted here which irate your ilk.

Indeed, that is one of the functions of a propagandist. But your feeble attempt to present a rosy picture is of no comfort for the people in Guyana who now are without jobs, losing their investments and eating shine rice a la PNC episode 1. 

Propaganda is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view".[1] Propaganda is often associated with the psychological mechanisms of influencing and altering the attitude of a population toward a specific cause, position or political agenda in an effort to form a consensus to a standard set of belief patterns.[2]

Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (perhaps lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded messages or "loaded language" to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented.[2] Propaganda is often associated with material prepared by governments, but activist groups and companies can also produce propaganda.

FM
Drugb posted:
ba$eman posted:
ksazma posted:

What happens when robots create goods and services that no one is able to buy? Do the goods and services go away or the robots?

In the end, human intelligence will decide.  The robots will not produce what they were not ordered to.  They will be vertically integrated in the ERP process of human life.  It's no different than today!

I am sure you have seen the terminator series. Maybe the next stage in robotics is artificial intelligence, with the ability to make decisions. It is quite possible. I remember years ago when I was taking AI courses and the concept of node of truths were the building blocks.  In fact that it is quite possible to mimic the human brain, with the exception of free will. 

That will not happen.  Machines can out do humans, but will never out-think humans.

FM

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