Apple Launches new products. I am getting the 4K apple TV and the iPhone X. What will you be getting ?

Gilbakka posted:

I'm already on retirement with a fixed pension. As I grow older, I cannot afford to be a slave to a smartphone, checking it constantly multiple times every waking hour, recharging it every day, and devoting more time that could be used more judiciously. In July-August I cancelled my Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts. I shortened my email contacts list, even disabling Jalil who insisted on remaining. 

So, for me a smartphone is now superfluous. More free time with my flip phone. Less recharge as it's on standby 8-10 days 24/7. More time for my favourite pastime --- reading.

I don't share the same opinion. I find the applications useful. Like fire a smart phone is a good slave but a bad master. 

Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:

I'm already on retirement with a fixed pension. As I grow older, I cannot afford to be a slave to a smartphone, checking it constantly multiple times every waking hour, recharging it every day, and devoting more time that could be used more judiciously. In July-August I cancelled my Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts. I shortened my email contacts list, even disabling Jalil who insisted on remaining. 

So, for me a smartphone is now superfluous. More free time with my flip phone. Less recharge as it's on standby 8-10 days 24/7. More time for my favourite pastime --- reading.

I don't share the same opinion. I find the applications useful. Like fire a smart phone is a good slave but a bad master. 

I don't want you to agree with me, bro. I just want you to understand me. 

Gilbakka posted:
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:

I'm already on retirement with a fixed pension. As I grow older, I cannot afford to be a slave to a smartphone, checking it constantly multiple times every waking hour, recharging it every day, and devoting more time that could be used more judiciously. In July-August I cancelled my Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts. I shortened my email contacts list, even disabling Jalil who insisted on remaining. 

So, for me a smartphone is now superfluous. More free time with my flip phone. Less recharge as it's on standby 8-10 days 24/7. More time for my favourite pastime --- reading.

I don't share the same opinion. I find the applications useful. Like fire a smart phone is a good slave but a bad master. 

I don't want you to agree with me, bro. I just want you to understand me. 

That's the problem, I don't follow why you would be against such a useful tool, unless you have decided to become a hermit and retire to the forest to meditate. 

Drugb posted:
 
I don't follow why you would be against such a useful tool, unless you have decided to become a hermit and retire to the forest to meditate. 

In a certain way, I've been a hermit a long time now. Just accelerating the process, transporting myself to my figurative forest. 

Gilbakka posted:
Drugb posted:
 
I don't follow why you would be against such a useful tool, unless you have decided to become a hermit and retire to the forest to meditate. 

In a certain way, I've been a hermit a long time now. Just accelerating the process, transporting myself to my figurative forest. 

Don't underestimate the benefits of technology. These smart phones can be extremely useful for the elderly if they know how to use it. For instance, when we become forgetful, we can use the reminder function to compensate for short term memory loss. From a technological standpoint this can be extremely useful. 

Drugb posted:  Don't underestimate the benefits of technology. These smart phones can be extremely useful for the elderly if they know how to use it. For instance, when we become forgetful, we can use the reminder function to compensate for short term memory loss. From a technological standpoint this can be extremely useful. 

Point taken. Here's a nice fact about 66-year-old Gilbakka. Despite a serious stroke 5 years ago and limited mobility up to now, my brain/memory remains excellent. I know by heart my 2 debit cards and two credit cards numbers, my 14-digit library card number etc. On top of that, despite leaving Guyana 21 years ago I remember my national ID number and my NIS number. Numbers aside, I can recall family/personal events from way back in 1954 when I was 3 years old. Also, I remember when my parents took me and my little sisters to Erlo Cinema at Uitvlugt Front in 1958 to see an Indian movie, "Amardeep", with the comedian Johnny Walker playing a role. It was the first movie I watched. Thank God I don't need a phone's reminder function yet.

Good for you Gilly,

I am two years junior and still sharp,our brains are better than any Electronics Technology,no one can crack it to steal information also you have to condition and feed it with the right information.

We never use up the capacity of our brain in our lifetime,do different things explore other areas to gain knowledge these activities keep it ticking.

Drugb posted:
 

Don't underestimate the benefits of technology. These smart phones can be extremely useful for the elderly if they know how to use it. For instance, when we become forgetful, we can use the reminder function to compensate for short term memory loss. From a technological standpoint this can be extremely useful. 

And suppose they don't remember the "reminder function". Most old folks don't care for this kind of technology. 

Django posted:

Good for you Gilly,

I am two years junior and still sharp,our brains are better than any Electronics Technology,no one can crack it to steal information also you have to condition and feed it with the right information.

I can say this with confidence: FISH boosts your memory big time. Eat, skin, think fish and/or fish oil. Remember that. Serious.

I worry for my brahmin bhai yuji22; he does not eat fish. A day will come when he won't remember where he put his Benz keys. Wait and see.

Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:

Good for you Gilly,

I am two years junior and still sharp,our brains are better than any Electronics Technology,no one can crack it to steal information also you have to condition and feed it with the right information.

I can say this with confidence: FISH boosts your memory big time. Eat, skin, think fish and/or fish oil. Remember that. Serious.

Bro,Fish,vegetables with my rice are my main diet for a while,I done with red meat over two decades ago,one and far will partake a little.

Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:

Good for you Gilly,

I am two years junior and still sharp,our brains are better than any Electronics Technology,no one can crack it to steal information also you have to condition and feed it with the right information.

I can say this with confidence: FISH boosts your memory big time. Eat, skin, think fish and/or fish oil. Remember that. Serious.

I worry for my brahmin bhai yuji22; he does not eat fish. A day will come when he won't remember where he put his Benz keys. Wait and see.

Django posted:
Mitwah posted:

Gilbaka is my favorite fish. I love my chicken. I am not so much into rice. I love my whole wheat, fruit and veggies.

Bhai,some people have different tastes,i use parboil rice and not a fan of roti.

I have to cut back on carbs and increase my fibre intake. I am into making my juices also.

Gilbakka posted: 

Point taken. Here's a nice fact about 66-year-old Gilbakka. Despite a serious stroke 5 years ago and limited mobility up to now, my brain/memory remains excellent. I know by heart my 2 debit cards and two credit cards numbers, my 14-digit library card number etc. On top of that, despite leaving Guyana 21 years ago I remember my national ID number and my NIS number. Numbers aside, I can recall family/personal events from way back in 1954 when I was 3 years old. Also, I remember when my parents took me and my little sisters to Erlo Cinema at Uitvlugt Front in 1958 to see an Indian movie, "Amardeep", with the comedian Johnny Walker playing a role. It was the first movie I watched. Thank God I don't need a phone's reminder function yet.

To each his own, it is apparent that you never fully utilized all the functionality of a smart phone prior to retirement, so it is not to be expected that you should do so after retirement.  But younger generation will not discard their smart phone when they get older, it is a useful tool that empowers if used properly. For instance we have a 75 year old today in my tennis group who uses the doodle app to schedule matches. You can learn languages on the smart phone via interactive apps. You are only limited by your imagination as to how you can use a smart phone in your later days. If you are the adventurous type you can harness the gps facility of the smart phones on hikes off the beaten path to find points of interest etc. 

RiffRaff posted:

I'll say this about Apple...I use my older son's MacBook Air...and it's much better than a PC

My son has all Apple stuff....maybe when he finish college, he'll get a Benz like Yugi

I mentioned before I mostly used Linux OS on my PC,which is good as Apple OS.

Leonora posted:

I like fried fish when it's hot, add some pepper sauce and ketchup, heavenly. When it's stewed or curried, with the water added, it loses the taste. I've been taking cod liver oil tablets also.  

Ketchup is loaded with sugar and too much Vit A from cod liver oil can cause liver problems. Use in moderation.

Leonora posted:

I like fried fish when it's hot, add some pepper sauce and ketchup, heavenly. When it's stewed or curried, with the water added, it loses the taste. I've been taking cod liver oil tablets also.  

That's how you could remember who and who used to fight on GNI Political donkey years ago. Not surprising.

Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted: 

Point taken. Here's a nice fact about 66-year-old Gilbakka. Despite a serious stroke 5 years ago and limited mobility up to now, my brain/memory remains excellent. I know by heart my 2 debit cards and two credit cards numbers, my 14-digit library card number etc. On top of that, despite leaving Guyana 21 years ago I remember my national ID number and my NIS number. Numbers aside, I can recall family/personal events from way back in 1954 when I was 3 years old. Also, I remember when my parents took me and my little sisters to Erlo Cinema at Uitvlugt Front in 1958 to see an Indian movie, "Amardeep", with the comedian Johnny Walker playing a role. It was the first movie I watched. Thank God I don't need a phone's reminder function yet.

To each his own, it is apparent that you never fully utilized all the functionality of a smart phone prior to retirement, so it is not to be expected that you should do so after retirement.  But younger generation will not discard their smart phone when they get older, it is a useful tool that empowers if used properly. For instance we have a 75 year old today in my tennis group who uses the doodle app to schedule matches. You can learn languages on the smart phone via interactive apps. You are only limited by your imagination as to how you can use a smart phone in your later days. If you are the adventurous type you can harness the gps facility of the smart phones on hikes off the beaten path to find points of interest etc. 

This is pure dankey talk. How many seniors take hikes off beaten paths? I see you like to use the word "harness". 

Gilbakka posted:
Leonora posted:

I like fried fish when it's hot, add some pepper sauce and ketchup, heavenly. When it's stewed or curried, with the water added, it loses the taste. I've been taking cod liver oil tablets also.  

That's how you could remember who and who used to fight on GNI Political donkey years ago. Not surprising.

Yes, sir. At my Mom's deadwork, the pandit did a ritual where my Dad had to call out the names of all his male ancestors. Poor Dad couldn't remember, I blurted out the names, and everyone turned around and looked at me in amazement.   

Leonora posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Leonora posted:

I like fried fish when it's hot, add some pepper sauce and ketchup, heavenly. When it's stewed or curried, with the water added, it loses the taste. I've been taking cod liver oil tablets also.  

That's how you could remember who and who used to fight on GNI Political donkey years ago. Not surprising.

Yes, sir. At my Mom's deadwork, the pandit did a ritual where my Dad had to call out the names of all his male ancestors. Poor Dad couldn't remember, I blurted out the names, and everyone turned around and looked at me in amazement.   

Why your Dad's male ancestors names for your Mom's "deadwork"????  I trust your memory. 

 

Gilbakka posted:
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:

I'm already on retirement with a fixed pension. As I grow older, I cannot afford to be a slave to a smartphone, checking it constantly multiple times every waking hour, recharging it every day, and devoting more time that could be used more judiciously. In July-August I cancelled my Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts. I shortened my email contacts list, even disabling Jalil who insisted on remaining. 

So, for me a smartphone is now superfluous. More free time with my flip phone. Less recharge as it's on standby 8-10 days 24/7. More time for my favourite pastime --- reading.

I don't share the same opinion. I find the applications useful. Like fire a smart phone is a good slave but a bad master. 

I don't want you to agree with me, bro. I just want you to understand me. 

smart phones are tools. I cannot return to flip phones. I walk and listen to my favorite authors. At night I locate the constellations.  I use them to scout bike trails and view them before a ride especially if they are new. They are my alarm clock, my calculator, my dictionary, body monitor, trip planner etc..in short my investigative tool for everything under the sun...plus they make money for me since I have collaborated on a few apps. I have a note 4 and pair it with all sorts of devices from my bike helmet to my bike..my FM radio, alexia and yes, my wife, mom, kids know and can track me at all time and get alerts for lots of things about me without me having to tell them

Django posted:
RiffRaff posted:

I'll say this about Apple...I use my older son's MacBook Air...and it's much better than a PC

My son has all Apple stuff....maybe when he finish college, he'll get a Benz like Yugi

I mentioned before I mostly used Linux OS on my PC,which is good as Apple OS.

same here. I have windows for work ( still on vista) but my personal PC is partitioned for Redhat and debian. I have a windows game pc ( standard alienware Aw17r4) in addition to my playstation and xbox. I am a game junkie. I do not care for apple stuff. Too expensive and do not have advantages if you know computers. I have owned apple machines but give up on them because when you want to do something unusual you have little resources or have to shell out lots of cash.

yuji22 posted:

Storm:

"I have owned apple machines but give up on them because when you want to do something unusual you have little resources or have to shell out lots of cash."

Yuji:

Storm, can you please be more specific with your claim ?

I think he means for gaming...my kids also prefer PC for gaming

RiffRaff posted:
yuji22 posted:

Storm:

"I have owned apple machines but give up on them because when you want to do something unusual you have little resources or have to shell out lots of cash."

Yuji:

Storm, can you please be more specific with your claim ?

I think he means for gaming...my kids also prefer PC for gaming

I have to agree about gaming. The video cards in the iMacs are not capable of gaming. PC rules for gaming.

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