AFC would not support delay of 2020 general elections – Ramjattan.

Khemraj Ramjattan

October 13,2017

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The Alliance for Change will not support the delay of the 2020 elections to await the constitutional reform process, party Chairman and former leader Khemraj Ramjattan says.

“I would not countenance at this stage, any circumstance for the delay of elections and I would want to say that I would ensure as a Chairman of my party, which is in this partnership with the APNU, that we do have elections in 2020,” Ramjattan told a Private Sector Business summit yesterday.

On the panel facilitating discussion on governance and the legal architecture at yesterday’s summit, which included Attorney Nigel Hughes and PPP/C’s Gail Teixeira, Ramjattan said that he believed that the constitutional reform process could be completed in two years.

However, he assured that should it not happen, he would not support the delaying of General and Regional Elections, due in 2020, in the name of seeing the constitutional reform process is completed.

The question on his and the AFC’s position on the election delay was put by activist and Attorney Christopher Ram.  “What would be his and his party’s position if there are any attempts to postpone elections like we had in 1990, under the guise of completing constitutional reform?” Ram asked along with two other questions.

While Teixeira did not touch on the issue of delay for elections, she said that she believes that for an effective constitutional reform process, there must be input from the country’s citizenry.

“Constitutional reform takes time. You have to go to the bottom house, the school, and the village and people have to understand what it is they are asking for,” she said while stressing it was a process that should not be rushed.

The Opposition representative on the panel pointed out that the need for nationwide meetings with the “ordinary man and woman” was needed because even at the recent forums on constitutional reform many persons asked for legal change instead of a reform process.

“At the UG forum (on constitutional reform) a lot of the changes asked for are legal change,” she said while later noting that “constitutional reform is not academic”.

The APNU+AFC government has come under increasing pressure over its failure to deliver on its manifesto promise of the appointment of a commission within three months of taking office to amend the constitution. Two years have passed without this commission being established. More recently, the government had said that $80 million was  set aside for consultations countrywide this year. Nine months have passed without any consultations being held.

Before Parliament went into recess this year, the Constitutional Reform Consultative Commission Bill 2017 was read a first time by Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo.

According to the explanatory memorandum, the bill is aimed at reforming the charter so that it is more inclusive, democratic and transparent.

Support from the opposition for it is seen as vital to the process moving ahead and Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo has said that his party was committed to it.

“The process of constitutional reform was always seen as one that would be continuous, an intention that was enshrined in Article 119 (A) of the Constitution. The PPP/C, therefore, remains open to the process of constitutional reform – a process that is locally driven and one that will see the involvement of the widest possible cross-section of stakeholders, including collaboration from international bodies,” Jagdeo said last month

“We have to ensure that the process by which we arrive at any proposed changes, if any, to the Constitution must be transparent and must find acceptance among all stakeholders,” he added.

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QUOTE: "The Alliance for Change will not support the delay of the 2020 elections to await the constitutional reform process, party Chairman and former leader Khemraj Ramjattan says."

Gilbakka welcomes this statement but will wait and see whether the AFC honors its promise. In 2014 Mr Ramjattan had said that if the AFC coalesced with APNU it would become "dead meat". 

We have to be alert to our politicians' inconsistencies and hold them accountable.

Gilbakka posted:

QUOTE: "The Alliance for Change will not support the delay of the 2020 elections to await the constitutional reform process, party Chairman and former leader Khemraj Ramjattan says."

Gilbakka welcomes this statement but will wait and see whether the AFC honors its promise. In 2014 Mr Ramjattan had said that if the AFC coalesced with APNU it would become "dead meat". 

We have to be alert to our politicians' inconsistencies and hold them accountable.

Good to see some AFC supporters have a clamp on the balls of the infamous two if they don't fulfill their promises.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Gilbakka posted:

QUOTE: "The Alliance for Change will not support the delay of the 2020 elections to await the constitutional reform process, party Chairman and former leader Khemraj Ramjattan says."

Gilbakka welcomes this statement but will wait and see whether the AFC honors its promise. In 2014 Mr Ramjattan had said that if the AFC coalesced with APNU it would become "dead meat". 

We have to be alert to our politicians' inconsistencies and hold them accountable.

Good to see some AFC supporters have a clamp on the balls of the infamous two if they don't fulfill their promises.

Billy missed a few posts where Gilbakka declared he no longer supports the AFC.

Gilbakka posted:
Billy missed a few posts where Gilbakka declared he no longer supports the AFC.

 

why you abandoned these folks? Are you a fair weather friend?  You should stick with them through good and bad and influence change from the inside. 

Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Billy missed a few posts where Gilbakka declared he no longer supports the AFC.

 

why you abandoned these folks? Are you a fair weather friend?  You should stick with them through good and bad and influence change from the inside. 

Bai, Gilly has never been a fanatic. Even when I was a PPP member I used to question some party decisions. In my view, a political party is made for people but people aren't necessarily made for political parties.

Gilbakka posted:
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Billy missed a few posts where Gilbakka declared he no longer supports the AFC.

 

why you abandoned these folks? Are you a fair weather friend?  You should stick with them through good and bad and influence change from the inside. 

Bai, Gilly has never been a fanatic. Even when I was a PPP member I used to question some party decisions. In my view, a political party is made for people but people aren't necessarily made for political parties.

The problem is that with this approach you appear to be a grasshopper. You can't influence change in afc from the outside, instead you leave the decision making to the weak minded like lilmohan and djangy. 

Django posted:

Khemraj Ramjattan,  October 13,2017,  Source

The Alliance for Change will not support the delay of the 2020 elections to await the constitutional reform process, party Chairman and former leader Khemraj Ramjattan says.

Usual nonsense by this individual.

Perhaps, the speculated delay of election in 2020 will be for a long and indefinite time.

Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Billy missed a few posts where Gilbakka declared he no longer supports the AFC.

 

why you abandoned these folks? Are you a fair weather friend?  You should stick with them through good and bad and influence change from the inside. 

Usually, the preferred approach.

Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Bai, Gilly has never been a fanatic. Even when I was a PPP member I used to question some party decisions. In my view, a political party is made for people but people aren't necessarily made for political parties.

The problem is that with this approach you appear to be a grasshopper. You can't influence change in afc from the outside, instead you leave the decision making to the weak minded like lilmohan and djangy. 

Bai, Gilly has no praablem wid de word "grasshopper". In my opinion, people who don't change or refresh their positions over time are stagnating. We don't live in a perfect world but we must seek perfection through trial and error. Don't be surprised if Gilly ultimately returns to his starting point Freedom House before he kicks the bucket. A man travels all over the world for happiness and returns home to find it, someone said.

Gilbakka posted:
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Bai, Gilly has never been a fanatic. Even when I was a PPP member I used to question some party decisions. In my view, a political party is made for people but people aren't necessarily made for political parties.

The problem is that with this approach you appear to be a grasshopper. You can't influence change in afc from the outside, instead you leave the decision making to the weak minded like lilmohan and djangy. 

Bai, Gilly has no praablem wid de word "grasshopper". In my opinion, people who don't change or refresh their positions over time are stagnating. We don't live in a perfect world but we must seek perfection through trial and error. Don't be surprised if Gilly ultimately returns to his starting point Freedom House before he kicks the bucket. A man travels all over the world for happiness and returns home to find it, someone said.

Well be careful with them freedom house bais. It is said that free in freedom house really signifies that ppp looking to free the people of any loose change in their pockets. 

Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Bai, Gilly has no praablem wid de word "grasshopper". In my opinion, people who don't change or refresh their positions over time are stagnating. We don't live in a perfect world but we must seek perfection through trial and error. Don't be surprised if Gilly ultimately returns to his starting point Freedom House before he kicks the bucket. A man travels all over the world for happiness and returns home to find it, someone said.

Well be careful with them freedom house bais. It is said that free in freedom house really signifies that ppp looking to free the people of any loose change in their pockets. 

Thank you for your unsolicited advice, bai.

Politics has a way to deceive us. I like the quote: A Political party is made for people but people aren't necessarily made for political parties. If you believe this, you also must believe that Ramjattan tells us something he personally would like to see but have no control over when the time comes. Sound familiar? 

Ramjattan is also on record as stating that the AFC would become dead meat if it joins the PNC. Sounds familiar ?

He speaks from both sides of his mouth but has to tow the PNC line otherwise he will be kicked to the curb like a piece of dead meat.

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