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AFC must give up gov’t posts to save credibility, support –Ramkarran.

November 26,2017

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Contending that the government’s reluctance to pursue constitutional reform has damaged the credibility of the Alliance For Change (AFC) and cost it key support, former Speaker Ralph Ramkarran says the party’s ministers should resign their Cabinet posts and instead serve as watchdog parliamentarians to ensure the fulfilment of election campaign promises.

“The failure of the government to proceed with constitutional reform, and the AFC’s seeming inability to push this agenda, has therefore deprived the AFC of much of its credibility and raison d’etre. If the AFC has been pushing for constitutional reform and the government as a whole has been dragging its feet, the time has come for the AFC ministers to resign from the government,” Ramkarran writes in his latest Conversation Tree column, which is reproduced in today’s Sunday Stabroek.

“By resigning its ministries, the AFC will restore some of its credibility and perhaps support. The public will see that for the AFC, political office and the perks are of less importance than political principle; that the AFC is determined to ensure that its policy of the end of racial politics is implemented; and that the AFC is a party of integrity. The new relationship between APNU and the AFC, with the AFC out of the government but its members sitting on the back benches, should be the subject of the new or amended accord, whether negotiated in Cummingsburg or elsewhere, which the AFC is proposing to have with APNU,” he adds.

Ramkarran’s suggestions come in wake of the recent criticism the party has faced over its publicly stated support for President David Granger’s unilateral appointment of retired judge James Patterson as the Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (Gecom).

Some of that criticism has come from within the party itself, as evidenced by recent leaked emails, which show that some party executives believe that the party’s support for the controversial decision has made it look weak and will likely result in its losing supporters. In particular, Chairman of the AFC’s United States Chapter Dr Rohan Somar noted, “Given the worsening racial polarisation in Guyana, this unilateral appointment by the Executive PNC President of an Afro Guyanese Gecom Chair-man, whether right or wrong, rips open the scars of (the) PNC rigging election(s). You have just thrown red meat to the notion of “PNC rigging election” which, in my view, will cause the AFC to forever lose Indo Guyanese support at the poll.”

Somar further stated that the decision by the AFC to accept the unilateral appointment was a major strategic blunder since the situation could have provided the perfect opportunity to stand its ground and “shake the foundation of the PNC dominated coalition and maintain its independence, leverage and credibility.”

‘Fear’

In his column, Ramkarran argues that while the AFC has drawn support across the ethnic divide, it was the support from Indo-Guyanese that enabled the APNU+AFC coalition to win the 2015 elections. He adds that despite this, the AFC has shown “a palpable lack of understanding” of the depth of fear of Indo-Guyanese and others that APNU will rig the next elections. “The unilateral appointment of a Chair for Gecom exacerbated that fear. And the AFC knows that they believe the evidence which caused the fear,” he says, while noting that the PNC—now the PNCR, which is the main constituent of APNU—rigged elections from 1968 to 1985. “Second, the PNC by itself has never won more than 42 percent of the vote in free and fair elections. Third, the AFC has lost substantial support and its contribution to the coalition at the next elections will be very modest. Fourth, this will keep the coalition below 50 percent. Fifth, in a two-party contest, the PPP will win. The answer? Rig! The AFC’s insensitivity to this scenario and its failure to persuade, or seek to persuade, the President to adopt a different approach to the appointment of the Gecom chair, has lost it substantial credibility,” he contends.

According to Ramkarran, while Guyana is not the same country that it was between the 1960s and the 1980s and the main political parties have changed, the ethnic competition between its major races, which has given rise to the permanent struggle for ethno-political dominance, remains the fundamental condition of the society.

He further notes that it was the desire for ethno-political dominance that led to the break-up of the PNC-UF coalition in 1964, which preceded the rigging of elections from 1968 to 1985. “This memory is seared in the consciousness of Guyanese and, in particular, Guyanese Indians because they attribute the rigging of elections as being designed to deprive them of political power. In divided societies, the memory of events which are believed by one ethnic group to be directed against it by the other does not recede. The burden of victimhood does not lighten. This the AFC has failed to understand this and it will cost it even more of its Guyanese Indian support. Let me hasten to add: The sense of victimhood is not confined to Indians. It is felt by Guyanese Africans as well, against Indians and Indian leaders but for other reasons,” he adds.

Ramkarran also points out that the end of racial politics is fundamental to the AFC’s credo, with constitutional reform expected to be the means by which this would be achieved. It is against this background that he argues that the failure of the government to proceed with constitutional reform has harmed the AFC. (Constitutional reform within the first 100 days in office was one of the promises in the APNU+AFC campaign manifesto for the May, 2015 polls. A bill for the establishment of a Constitutional Reform Commission is currently before the National Assembly.)

Ramkarran further argues that the party cannot sustain its credibility while remaining ineffective in relation to the most important aspects of its platform. Further lack of success, he adds, will leave its credibility in tatters but with backbench Members of Parliament, it will be far more influential and respected because at any time it would be able to bring down the government. As a result, he says it will then be in a far stronger position to make demands for fulfillment of coalition promises on constitutional reform and other matters.

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Mr. Ramkarran is on the money, but as the AFC keep sinking in the face of controversies and failed promise. They would rather go down with the ship than to abandon their ministries and serve as watchdog parliamentarians. AFC has made a good first impression that fades rapidly with power. Now they will fall under their own weight. 

FM
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APNU’s David Granger (left) and AFC’s Moses Nagamootoo, then presidential and prime ministerial candidates of the new coalition, after announcing the signing of the “Cummingsburg Accord” to formalise the pre-electoral alliance. (Stabroek News file photo)

AFC wants structured dialogue with APNU

-as part of revised Cummingsburg Accord

November 26,2017

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When the Alliance for Change (AFC) meets with governing coalition partner A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) to review their pre-electoral alliance pact, the Cummingsburg Accord, its demands will include more structured inter-party communication.

The party will also be going to the talks with other issues, such as their participation in the local government elections set for next year and the 2020 general and regional elections.

“One of the most important issues is the dialogue between the parties. It has to be more structured as part of communication,” Minister of Public Infra-structure David Patterson, who is leading the review of the accord for the AFC, told Sunday Stabroek.

“The inter-party communication was not addressed in the original Cummingsburg Accord. It has to be addressed now. We want it formalized.  Whatever construct the coalition agrees, it has to be a formal thing. The coalition needs to know a structure–both sides need to know when and where we will be meeting and how often and those things like that,” he explained.

Joseph Harmon
 

The Cummingsburg Accord was signed for a minimum period of three years and a maximum of five years. But the AFC has also noted that it is a sunset pact, which requires early review ahead of the upcoming polls.

President David Granger, who is the leader of APNU, last Friday said that he welcomed the request by the AFC to have a review, as provided for.

“The AFC is entitled make their requests known. …Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, there is a requirement to review the Accord after three years and that three years will expire after midnight on the 13th of February, 2018. So, it is within in the right of the AFC to request a review. I don’t have a problem with that,” Granger told reporters.

This position was echoed by APNU General Secretary Joseph Harmon, who told Sunday Stabroek that while he is still to receive a formal request for the meetings, he, and is sure his party, looks forward to the discussions and resolutions coming out of them.

“We don’t have an issue with having it reviewed, because as agreements are they are affected by the day to day lives of people. The agreement is not crafted in stone that things cannot be changed as you go through. The APNU side doesn’t have a problem with the terms and conditions of the Accord. We believe it was a good thing for Guyana and continues to be a good thing for Guyana. It is always necessary for you to review agreements and this agreement provides a situation for review. We are open to the discussions and so on,” he said.

“I have not been officially notified by the [AFC], in writing, but I take notice of the statement made by the party. I think it is public knowledge and I would take that as notice, but they have not yet written to say we are requesting a specific date and time when we will meet for this or that. I think we are experienced enough to know that once that information is put in the public domain, that we should take notice of it,” he added.

Convenient

Sunday Stabroek repeatedly tried over the last week to contact AFC leader Raphael Trotman to enquire if the process has been initiated formally. However, this has proven futile as calls and texts to his phone have gone unanswered.

Harmon, however, pointed out that there was no iron clad review period although he thought that the AFC’s request has come at a good time. “I believe it was a convenient time [the anniversary] and maybe it is a good point for the review,” he said.

He explained that he could not state how long the review process would take once decided on, since it is unclear what modifications to the agreement are being sought by the AFC. “I don’t know what is the extent of it—their proposals. So, we can’t say it will be completed by x or y time and so on, because you see there is no imperative for any changed conditions right away. Basically, depending on the depth of the conversations which will take place, I believe that at that point we will determine how long it will take and so on,” Harmon  added.

Patterson said that he feels that the time frame given to complete the negotiations is not too little since the first agreement was completed “within one or two weeks”, and in this case there is at least two months.  He said that the review process should not take long also because “It is something that we already have. The ground work has already been laid, so I don’t see time being an issue at all.”

Under the agreement, the coalition had said that “both parties commit “to accept and promote dialogue, discussion and the use of constitutional means to advance economic, political and social change; respect the value and sanctity of human life; maintain high levels of mutual respect; reject ethnicity as a consideration for the participation of citizens in government, denounce corruption and promote financial transparency, probity at all levels of government.”

The AFC has since earlier this year appointed a team to review the Accord but last week its National Executive Committee (NEC), following a meeting, announced that it wanted the review by next February.

After the coalition had entered office in May, 2015, there were immediate concerns that the AFC’s leading member in the government, Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo, was being sidelined in favour of Harmon. Though he was number two in government, Nagamootoo had few portfolio responsibilities, while Harmon’s portfolio was multifaceted and kept expanding. There were also concerns in other areas.

The Accord had provided for the Prime Minister to chair Cabinet meetings but following the coalition’s ascension to office, it was stated that such a practice would be in breach of the country’s Constitution.

Article 106 (3) of the Constitution states that the President shall preside over Cabinet meetings although it also sets out that the Prime Minister shall do so in his absence.

More recently, the AFC has come in for strong criticisms from within its own executive over its public endorsement of Granger’s unilateral selection of 84-year-old retired judge James Patterson as Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission.

This issue saw the withdrawal of the Canadian Chapter.

‘Refining’

Patterson said that the NEC’s decision to mandate Trotman to write government for a review of the Accord was not based not on any one issue but the feelings by its executives that clear explanations and guidelines were needed on matters in the agreement.

“There are several areas that our membership has asked us to look at, including the whole issue of the relationship with our partners as well as a clear understanding of discussions and resolution agendas going forward. There is not any one specific matter, as there are several areas that were raised that needed refining. It is a discussion process,” he noted.

Since matters pertaining to local government elections never formed a part of the Accord, the party expects that they will during the review.

“Local government  is one of the areas that was omitted… but the construct of how we go ahead in local government, in what format, if we are going to go as a coalition, we need a full agreement on how that is going to be done. So that is one issue they asked that we raise with our counterparts,” Patterson explained.

“It is not a question of power or authority or anything like that. The group would like to have a clear understanding. Just as how we have a clear understanding of Cabinet, the relation of authorities and those things like that, we need to have a clear understanding of local government and several matters going forward. It is just a review of several issues that would have come up at our NEC,” he added.

However, Patterson said “one of the most important issues” is the internal party dialogue, while saying that “it has to be more structured as part of communication.”

“Say how we know the structure of the Cabinet… once we have an agreed documented procedure that would be okay by us,” he said.

Among the terms of the Cummings-burg Accord were that the APNU would nominate the coalition’s Presidential candidate and AFC would nominate the Prime Ministerial candidate. The AFC was assured of 12 seats in the National Assembly and that that Cabinet positions would be allocated on a 60/40 basis between the APNU and the AFC, respectively.

Also, in the construct of a new government, the APNU was to be allocated one Vice-President and AFC two Vice-Presidents, both of whom will be members of the Cabinet. The Accord also stated that in reflecting the thinking and commitment to and for future constitutional reform, it had been agreed that the Presidency will be reorganized along several lines.

It was agreed that the President as Head of State, Head of Government, and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces shall have responsibility for the appointment of constitutional agencies and commissions with the required and agreed democratic mechanisms of consultation and appointment. The President would also have responsibilities for Foreign Affairs, International Relations and Non-Commercial Treaties as well as National Security Policy, the Defence Board, the Joint Intelligence Committee, and the Guyana Defence Force, among other things.

It was agreed also that the president would delegate the following responsibilities to the Prime Minister: – Domestic National Affairs and Chairing Cabinet; Recommending Ministerial appointments and providing the organizational structures of Ministries for the approval of the President; Appointment of Head of Agencies and Non-Constitutional Com-missions with the required and agreed democratic mechanisms of consultation and appoint; and Domestic Security (Home Affairs).

The coalition also touted inclusionary democracy and promised that the nation would see this materialized as a re-energizing of citizens through openness and access to their representatives. It promised a government “which treats all citizens as equal under the law; through the sharing of information on matters of public interest and through subjugating partisan politics to the national interest. People’s interest in participation in the political life, especially among the marginalized segments of the population, in this way will be rekindled. Young people, particularly, should be motivated and mobilized to take a more active role in political life and the development of the nation.”

Django
Prince posted:

Mr. Ramkarran is on the money, but as the AFC keep sinking in the face of controversies and failed promise. They would rather go down with the ship than to abandon their ministries and serve as watchdog parliamentarians. AFC has made a good first impression that fades rapidly with power. Now they will fall under their own weight

Hold your horses,not yet,read the article above,the PPP drooling for a break up,bear in mind not everything does be rosy and dandy with Coalition Gov'ts.

Granger will have to be pushed against the wall,let wait and see what the review process of the Cummingsburg Accord will bring forth.

 

Django
Django posted:
Prince posted:

Mr. Ramkarran is on the money, but as the AFC keep sinking in the face of controversies and failed promise. They would rather go down with the ship than to abandon their ministries and serve as watchdog parliamentarians. AFC has made a good first impression that fades rapidly with power. Now they will fall under their own weight

Hold your horses,not yet,read the article above,the PPP drooling for a break up,bear in mind not everything does be rosy and dandy with Coalition Gov'ts.

Granger will have to be pushed against the wall,let wait and see what the review process of the Cummingsburg Accord will bring forth.

 

I should know better what the PPP is hoping for. Don't be surprised if they team up with PPP for 2020. Words are if the PPP demonstrate a coalition force and clean up their acts, big brother might sympathize with them. 

FM
Prashad posted:

The AFC should be run out of every East Indian community in Guyana. As for Rankirani I hope that the PPP never taste that Apple again.

Bhai,when will you realize the East Indian votes for the PPP willn't cut the mustard,same goes for the PNC with Afro votes,the population dynamics of Guyana have changed during the past 25 yrs,the growing Mixed and Amerindian population have a lot of power,depending on where they throw their weight,that party will win.

Django
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Like it or not, Guyanese are entrenched in a PPP/PNC realm. Any other party will only be instrumental in keeping those two parties honest. The AFC was able to garner more support than any other third party to limit the power of the two major parties as evidenced by their performance in the 2011 elections and their subsequent alignment with the main Opposition PNC in limiting/curbing the actions of the ruling PPP. While their teaming up with the PNC has earned them the right to govern, all it managed to do is destroyed their political capital developed over the past decade. Today, it is on life support and for all intents and purposes, Granger seems ready to pull the plug on them. From the article above, it looks like Granger and Harmon are welcoming the Accord review more than the AFC and that could only mean that the PNC intends to further limit the role of the AFC in a revised Accord. As our buddy Carib has been saying since May 16, 2015, the AFC got more Coalition parliamentary seats than the support the brought to the Coalition. He didn't think they deserve the 12 seats they got and my guess is that Granger and Harmon will point that out to the AFC. So Ramkarran is correct. The more the AFC remain part of the Coalition government, the less it will exist as a Party for Change. 

FM
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Gilbakka posted:

I endorse every sentence Ralph Ramkarran writes in his CONVERSATION TREE article. Thanks for posting, Django.

Gil. I am uncertain that this will result in appeasing the AFC supporters who have left the party. From those I have spoken to throughout my travels in Guyana, they want the AFC to pull out of the coalition and for the government to fall. This move suggested by RAmkarran  will be seen as more negative by leadership , because the facade of having some input, of being part of the government will collapse and expose them for the Lapp dogs they are. Also, it will confirm to the people that the AFC made a monumental mistake when they broke their promise of not joining with any of the major political party and joined with APNU. Which politicians ever accept and publicize their mistakes? 

Key also will be Granger's response to such a move. I do not think that Granger will allow this to happen. He might just remove them from the list and replace them with others or appoint APNU to all cabinet positions.

furthermore, this move might split the AFC into its pro and ANti PNC factions. We can then see a Trottman, GRanger's son in law and  others staying in their posts, while others remain.

the AFC has chosen to hold on to the tiger's tail and will get hurt one way or the other if it release it!

 

Z
Django posted:
Prashad posted:

The AFC should be run out of every East Indian community in Guyana. As for Rankirani I hope that the PPP never taste that Apple again.

Bhai,when will you realize the East Indian votes for the PPP willn't cut the mustard,same goes for the PNC with Afro votes,the population dynamics of Guyana have changed during the past 25 yrs,the growing Mixed and Amerindian population have a lot of power,depending on where they throw their weight,that party will win.

However, if the PNC continues to treat the AFC as a doormat and it wises up and breaks away from the PNC, then the PPP by a small margin will outperform the PNC. Especially given how hapless this government has been the past two plus years. The AFC will then be able to align itself with whichever side is correct on any particular bill which will restore its mantra as a party for change. BUT NONE OF THOSE THINGS WILL MATTER IF GRANGER HAS ALREADY DECIDED THAT THE FUTURE ELECTIONS WILL GO AS THE ONES BETWEEN 1964 AND 1992.

FM
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Prashad posted:

East Indians of Guyana must see themselves as members of their own nation.

Trini East Indians and Surinamese East Indians should link up with Guyanese East Indians and carved out some Indesh in South America ,that will do it,while pondering how to achieve that,they have to realize they live in a Country that have other races,including Africans and their rights are the same as theirs.The idiocy of believing who are more smarter is for the arrogant,there are a few on GNI.

Django
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
Prashad posted:

The AFC should be run out of every East Indian community in Guyana. As for Rankirani I hope that the PPP never taste that Apple again.

Bhai,when will you realize the East Indian votes for the PPP willn't cut the mustard,same goes for the PNC with Afro votes,the population dynamics of Guyana have changed during the past 25 yrs,the growing Mixed and Amerindian population have a lot of power,depending on where they throw their weight,that party will win.

However, if the PNC continues to treat the AFC as a doormat and it wises up and breaks away from the PNC, then the PPP by a small margin will outperform the PNC. Especially given how hapless this government has been the past two plus years. The AFC will then be able to align itself with whichever side is correct on any particular bill which will restore its mantra as a party for change. BUT NONE OF THOSE THINGS WILL MATTER IF GRANGER HAS ALREADY DECIDED THAT THE FUTURE ELECTIONS WILL GO AS THE ONES BETWEEN 1964 AND 1992.

Let him try to pull that stunt,to be noted, he is no spring chicken.

Django
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Django posted:
Prashad posted:

East Indians of Guyana must see themselves as members of their own nation.

Trini East Indians and Surinamese East Indians should link up with Guyanese East Indians and carved out some Indesh in South America ,that will do it,while pondering how to achieve that,they have to realize they live in a Country that have other races,including Africans and their rights are the same as theirs.The idiocy of believing who are more smarter is for the arrogant,there are a few on GNI.

Most of us view racialism on skin colour , while within our own race we are like crab in a barell. 

Prashad should explain why he chose a white man country as home and not INDIA .

Prashad , the ball is in your court to explain.... we wait your explaination .

FM

@Django, AFC wants structured dialogue with PNC-dominated APNU? THAT will only prolong the agony. Meanwhile, at the grassroots level the AFC is losing blood. I won't be surprised to hear that AFC councillors in the NDCs and regional administrations will resign one by one. That would be the next logical move.

FM
Prashad posted:

The AFC should be run out of every East Indian community in Guyana. As for Rankirani I hope that the PPP never taste that Apple again.

First sentence NICE.

Second sentence LOUSY.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, AFC wants structured dialogue with PNC-dominated APNU? THAT will only prolong the agony. Meanwhile, at the grassroots level the AFC is losing blood. I won't be surprised to hear that AFC councillors in the NDCs and regional administrations will resign one by one. That would be the next logical move.

Granger and the PNC (R) along with their constituents,need to understand with out the AFC they would have been in la..la land forever,Granger's actions are gradually deepening my resentment on how he governs.

Django
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Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django, AFC wants structured dialogue with PNC-dominated APNU? THAT will only prolong the agony. Meanwhile, at the grassroots level the AFC is losing blood. I won't be surprised to hear that AFC councillors in the NDCs and regional administrations will resign one by one. That would be the next logical move.

Granger and the PNC (R) along with their constituents,need to understand with out the AFC they would have been in la..la land forever,Granger actions are gradually deepening my resentment on how he governs.

Gradually, you picking sense from nonsense. I'm confident that coming events will shift you farther from that crappy coalition. I haven't lost patience with you. 

FM
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
Prashad posted:

The AFC should be run out of every East Indian community in Guyana. As for Rankirani I hope that the PPP never taste that Apple again.

Bhai,when will you realize the East Indian votes for the PPP willn't cut the mustard,same goes for the PNC with Afro votes,the population dynamics of Guyana have changed during the past 25 yrs,the growing Mixed and Amerindian population have a lot of power,depending on where they throw their weight,that party will win.

However, if the PNC continues to treat the AFC as a doormat and it wises up and breaks away from the PNC, then the PPP by a small margin will outperform the PNC. Especially given how hapless this government has been the past two plus years. The AFC will then be able to align itself with whichever side is correct on any particular bill which will restore its mantra as a party for change. BUT NONE OF THOSE THINGS WILL MATTER IF GRANGER HAS ALREADY DECIDED THAT THE FUTURE ELECTIONS WILL GO AS THE ONES BETWEEN 1964 AND 1992.

Let him try to pull that stunt,to be noted, he is no spring chicken.

Old ppl like Granger thinks god telling him to do whatever he is doing. Examine Mugabe, he wanted to give his young wife power. Forbes gave Viola power and Cheedie gave Janet power and Jagdeo gave Ramotaur power. Maybe Granger has some concubines to choose from. Commenting on the spring chicken part. 

S

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