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SEPTEMBER 12, 2017 / 3:04 AM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO

Apple launches $999 iPhone X in bid to regain innovation lead

 
 
 
 

CUPERTINO, Calif. (Reuters) - Apple Inc on Tuesday rolled out its much-anticipated iPhone X, a glass and stainless steel device with an edge-to-edge display that Chief Executive Tim Cook called “the biggest leap forward since the original iPhone.”

The launch contained few surprises, with leaked details on the phone and other products including an updated Apple Watch proving largely accurate. But the iPhone X’s $999 price still raised eyebrows, and its Nov. 3 ship date prompted questions about possible supply constraints ahead of the holiday season.

Investors and fans have viewed the 10th-anniversary iPhone launch as an opportunity for Apple to refresh a smartphone lineup that had lagged the competition in new features. Last year the company’s revenue declined when many consumers rejected the iPhone 7 as being too similar to the iPhone 6.

The new Apple Watch for the first time will be able to make calls and access the internet without the customer carrying an iPhone -- a major upgrade that one analyst predicted would more than double watch sales.

The iPhone X has wireless charging, an infrared camera and hardware for facial recognition, which replaces the fingerprint sensor for unlocking the phone. The home button is also gone, and users instead tap the device to wake it up.

Apple normally ships new products within a week or two of announcing them, though the company said the later date was consistent with earlier guidance to investors.

“It’s great to have a product but we’d have liked it sooner rather than later, more like the beginning of October or mid- October,” said Kim Forrest, senior equity research analyst at Fort Pitt Capital Group in Pittsburgh.

Apple shares closed down 0.4 percent. They had traded as much as 1 percent higher during the launch event before reversing course. The shares are up almost 40 percent on the year.

Tim Ghriskey, chief investment officer of Solaris Asset Management in New York, said he was not worried about the ship date and liked the new phones features, but also flagged a lack of surprises.

“It’s sell on the news,” he said. “They didn’t talk about the evolution of Apple beyond the iPhone and into artificial intelligence.”

The screen on the iPhone X is about the size of the current iPhone 7 plus, though the phone is smaller. It features richer colors thanks to a new screen technology called OLED that other vendors are also rolling out. (tmsnrt.rs/2f2Gche)

But in an embarrassing moment for Apple Senior Vice President Craig Federighi, the face ID unlocking did not work on his first attempt during the on-stage presentation.

PHONES AT MANY PRICES

Apple executives also stressed the phone’s capabilities in augmented reality, in which digital images are overlaid on the real world. But their remarks suggested that the phone does not have the full panoply of 3D-sensor chips that some had expected.

Wireless carriers in the United States, whose fierce battle for customers could tempt them into renewing the practice of subsidizing phones, immediately began to offer discounts. T-Mobile US Inc said customers on a payment plan can trade in their iPhone 6 or newer and receive up to $300 off over 24 months.

 
(L-R) iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone X and iPhone 8 models are displayed during an Apple launch event in Cupertino, California, U.S. September 12, 2017. REUTERS/Stephen Lam

Sprint Corp CEO Marcelo Claure promised in a tweet: “Find a better monthly price & we’ll credit the difference via prepaid card.”

AT&T Inc and Verizon Communications Inc, the dominant mobile carriers in the United States, have not yet disclosed their pricing plans.

Apple also introduced the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus, which resemble the iPhone 7 line but have a glass back for wireless charging. The company said it was working on a new device, called the Airpad, that would charge all newer Apple products.

The wireless charging uses a standard called Qi, also used by Samsung Electronics Co Ltd, which will likely solidify that technology as the industry standard.

The new phones all feature Apple’s first proprietary graphics processor, which provides greater speed, improved cameras and some features for augmented reality apps.

 
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The company had previously used graphics chips from Imagination Technologies Group Plc, which put itself up for sale earlier this year after Apple said it would make its own technology.

Apple is moving to design more of the internal components of the iPhone, squeezing some suppliers but giving Apple control.

The cheapest of the iPhone 8 models have 64 gigabytes of memory, up from 32 gigabytes in previous models, and will sell for $699 and $799. Apple also noted that for budget-conscious shoppers, there is now a $349 iPhone SE, similar to the iPhone 5.

The bump-up in memory for the new phones should help suppliers of memory chips, and Apple is now angling to own a piece of the memory-chip business being sold by Toshiba Corp

The new Series 3 watch will cost $399 and support a range of third-party apps.

Apple has never released numbers on watch sales, but analyst Gene Munster with Loup Ventures forecast the company would sell 26 million in 2018.

Also featured at the launch event was an upgraded Apple TV that will support the high-resolution display known as 4K and will feature more programming options as Apple steps up efforts to cut content deals and produce its own shows.

FLASHY NEW CAMPUS

Cook opened the event at the Steve Jobs Auditorium on Apple’s new campus with a tribute to company co-founder and former CEO Jobs, who died in 2011.

The Apple building itself was considered to be Jobs’ final product, and Cook spent a few minutes boasting about the design, energy-saving features and public spaces at the new campus, including a flagship Apple Store.

The theater, never before open to the public, features an expansive glass-enclosed lobby, with two massive white stone staircases leading down to the auditorium. Inside, the decor is similar to that of Apple’s stores, with hard maple flooring and tan leather seats.

Reporting by Stephen Nellis; Additional reporting by Sinead Carew in New York; Writing by Jonathan Weber; Editing by Meredith Mazzilli and Lisa Shumaker

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I must admit that I am a die hard Apple user.

Our Household:

3 x Apple TV

2 x Imacs

1 x Macbook Pro retina

2 x Macbook Air

3 x Iphones 6s and or 6s plus

1 x Iphone 7 plus

1 x Apple watch

Picking up a New Jeep this week with Apple Play.

We consider any PC with Windows as Evil. 

 

FM
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kp posted:

Somehow , you prapa like to "SHOW OFF", who cares what you have , next you want to show your bank balance. If I can remember you stated you have 3 or 4 Benz, Who Cares!!!!!

Jealousy has no cure. I am an Apple fan and that is what we have in Apple products. How did Apple become a trillion dollar company ?

Take a look at Yuji's GNI avatar, what do you see ?

BTW, that is about average of what most Canadian or American families have in PC's or Android Products or Apple products.

Your Sir, are a Typical Jealous individual.

Please provide proof where I stated that I have 3 0r 4 Benz. You sir, are full of it.

I am not ashamed of what I own.  Yuji is a man of great confidence and is blessed. I live and die by one principle, Money talks and BS walks.

BTW, are you getting any of Apple's new products ?

Yuji22.

 

FM
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yuji22 posted:
kp posted:

Somehow , you prapa like to "SHOW OFF", who cares what you have , next you want to show your bank balance. If I can remember you stated you have 3 or 4 Benz, Who Cares!!!!!

Jealousy has no cure. I am an Apple fan and that is what we have in Apple products. How did Apple become a trillion dollar company ?

Take a look at Yuji's GNI avatar, what do you see ?

BTW, that is about average of what most Canadian or American families have in PC's or Android Products or Apple products.

Your Sir, are a Typical Jealous individual.

Please provide proof where I stated that I have 3 0r 4 Benz. You sir, are full of it.

I am not ashamed of what I own.  Yuji is a man of great confidence and is blessed. I live and die by one principle, Money talks and BS walks.

BTW, are you getting any of Apple's new products ?

Yuji22.

 

What I have in my house is no ones business . And you think I am jealous  the problem with you everyone knows what you have you wears it on Gni  and you know nothing about me. There are many people on Gni can buy and sell you so continue talk Bull Shit.

K

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

FM
kp posted:

Somehow , you prapa like to "SHOW OFF", who cares what you have , next you want to show your bank balance. If I can remember you stated you have 3 or 4 Benz, Who Cares!!!!!

KP bai, money is not everything. Most people who have a lot of money always want more. We have our president who robbed to get rich. I am not saying Yuji robbed anyone. But, if you have lots of money, try to help your unfortunate brother. I don't have a lot of money but I have helped a lot of my people. I am still happy and at peace with myself.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

I have a cell phone that stays at home. It's one of those little flat one that takes about a minute to turn on. Not sure how many minutes I can use. I only use it if I am going out of town hunting or fishing. We grew up without a phone, electricity, indoor plumbing etc. Can do without it. Not using a cell phone puts less stress in my life.

FM

I have a cell phone with blue tooth.. getting rid of it as soon the current contract expires. I can live without it. Yugi wherever your Benz will take I can get there with any inexpensive vehicle. Big Deal if you have more than one benz. Who cares?

Mitwah
skeldon_man posted:
Gilbakka posted:

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

I have a cell phone that stays at home. It's one of those little flat one that takes about a minute to turn on. Not sure how many minutes I can use. I only use it if I am going out of town hunting or fishing. We grew up without a phone, electricity, indoor plumbing etc. Can do without it. Not using a cell phone puts less stress in my life.

If wasn't for my job...I might still not have a cell phone

 

FM
Gilbakka posted:

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

My 16 year old son loved his $25 flip phone

FM

This will actually be my last iPhone purchase. I plan to start preparing to live a very simple lifestyle when I turn 60. I might opt for a flip phone at 60.

Both of my parents use flip phones and do not want to have Jhanjat with smart phones. I can see myself doing the same.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

Bhai, I can assure that I will downgrade and life a simple life when I turn 60. Who knows, I might even be pounding the pavement in Guyana for a good cause helping the mentally ill and the less fortunate. 

I just want to enjoy whatever I am allowed to according my spiritual life. I am required to start preparing for a humble lifestyle when I turn 55 so that by 60, I can be ready for that humble lifestyle.

Sadly, many at GNI do not know about my plan.

FM
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kp posted:
yuji22 posted:
kp posted:

Somehow , you prapa like to "SHOW OFF", who cares what you have , next you want to show your bank balance. If I can remember you stated you have 3 or 4 Benz, Who Cares!!!!!

Jealousy has no cure. I am an Apple fan and that is what we have in Apple products. How did Apple become a trillion dollar company ?

Take a look at Yuji's GNI avatar, what do you see ?

BTW, that is about average of what most Canadian or American families have in PC's or Android Products or Apple products.

Your Sir, are a Typical Jealous individual.

Please provide proof where I stated that I have 3 0r 4 Benz. You sir, are full of it.

I am not ashamed of what I own.  Yuji is a man of great confidence and is blessed. I live and die by one principle, Money talks and BS walks.

BTW, are you getting any of Apple's new products ?

Yuji22.

 

What I have in my house is no ones business . And you think I am jealous  the problem with you everyone knows what you have you wears it on Gni  and you know nothing about me. There are many people on Gni can buy and sell you so continue talk Bull Shit.

Yugi looking for attention. Lol

FM
yuji22 posted:

This will actually be my last iPhone purchase. I plan to start preparing to live a very simple lifestyle when I turn 60. I might opt for a flip phone at 60.

Both of my parents use flip phones and do not want to have Jhanjat with smart phones. I can see myself doing the same.

Nah.  Once you have used an iphone you can never use another phone.  Especially if you are a traveler and need to find restaurants and directions in a moment's notice, and if you use apps to pay bills with one touch.  Books appts with one touch.  Turn on and off heating/ac in your house.  Best thing since slice bread.

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:

This will actually be my last iPhone purchase. I plan to start preparing to live a very simple lifestyle when I turn 60. I might opt for a flip phone at 60.

Both of my parents use flip phones and do not want to have Jhanjat with smart phones. I can see myself doing the same.

Nah.  Once you have used an iphone you can never use another phone.  Especially if you are a traveler and need to find restaurants and directions in a moment's notice, and if you use apps to pay bills with one touch.  Books appts with one touch.  Turn on and off heating/ac in your house.  Best thing since slice bread.

Apple does make the best products, then again, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder hence the loyal Android fans.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

So how you are you able to hide your location?

FM
FC posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

So how you are you able to hide your location?

Technology has destroyed our privacy

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

I don't need an IPhone to do that. Can you tell where I am posting from right now?

Mitwah
yuji22 posted:

This will actually be my last iPhone purchase. I plan to start preparing to live a very simple lifestyle when I turn 60. I might opt for a flip phone at 60.

Both of my parents use flip phones and do not want to have Jhanjat with smart phones. I can see myself doing the same.

Type "flip phone" on YouTube and you'll see a growing trend of folks giving up their smartphones. Filmstars/celebs are moving back to basic flip phones for privacy reasons, to avoid hacking of photos, emails etc.

FM
FC posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

So how you are you able to hide your location?

You go into Settings, then Privacy and turn off location services. 

Bibi Haniffa
Gilbakka posted:

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

Looks like you are preparing for retirement and a fixed income. 

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:

This will actually be my last iPhone purchase. I plan to start preparing to live a very simple lifestyle when I turn 60. I might opt for a flip phone at 60.

Both of my parents use flip phones and do not want to have Jhanjat with smart phones. I can see myself doing the same.

Nah.  Once you have used an iphone you can never use another phone.  Especially if you are a traveler and need to find restaurants and directions in a moment's notice, and if you use apps to pay bills with one touch.  Books appts with one touch.  Turn on and off heating/ac in your house.  Best thing since slice bread.

Well maam other smart Android phones can do the same,there are apps for everything.

My stolen LG G3 was replaced by a used one,this phone has lots of features.

Django
Bibi Haniffa posted:
FC posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

So how you are you able to hide your location?

You go into Settings, then Privacy and turn off location services. 

It is not what you think it is. Your location is still known to the network.  Read the help as to what turning privacy off does. It turns off broadcasting your location to third party apps and websites.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
FC posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

So how you are you able to hide your location?

You go into Settings, then Privacy and turn off location services. 

There is a menu that can tell of all the places  your cell phone has been. So if you are thinking of cheating, don't take the cell phone with you.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
FC posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

So how you are you able to hide your location?

You go into Settings, then Privacy and turn off location services. 

There is a menu that can tell of all the places  your cell phone has been. So if you are thinking of cheating, don't take the cell phone with you.

You are going to get Bibi worried now. 

FM
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FC posted:
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
FC posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I love the new iphone.  I can tear up GNI from anywhere in the world in real time without anyone knowing where I am.

So how you are you able to hide your location?

You go into Settings, then Privacy and turn off location services. 

There is a menu that can tell of all the places  your cell phone has been. So if you are thinking of cheating, don't take the cell phone with you.

You are going to get Bibi worried now.

Please don't let her know that it can be synchronized. 

Mitwah
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

Looks like you are preparing for retirement and a fixed income. 

I'm already on retirement with a fixed pension. As I grow older, I cannot afford to be a slave to a smartphone, checking it constantly multiple times every waking hour, recharging it every day, and devoting more time that could be used more judiciously. In July-August I cancelled my Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts. I shortened my email contacts list, even disabling Jalil who insisted on remaining. 

So, for me a smartphone is now superfluous. More free time with my flip phone. Less recharge as it's on standby 8-10 days 24/7. More time for my favourite pastime --- reading.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:

yuji22, I was an Android, not Apple, user. I say WAS because, at the start of August, I downgraded from a smartphone to a basic flip phone specially made for seniors. I have a talk & text plan with ZoomerWireless, $16.20 per month for 120 anytime minutes, 120 outgoing Canada-wide texts and unlimited incoming texts. Zoomer also gave me free CARP membership and free subscription to Zoomer/seniors' magazine.

I am deliberately simplifying my life. 

Looks like you are preparing for retirement and a fixed income. 

I'm already on retirement with a fixed pension. As I grow older, I cannot afford to be a slave to a smartphone, checking it constantly multiple times every waking hour, recharging it every day, and devoting more time that could be used more judiciously. In July-August I cancelled my Facebook, Twitter and other social media accounts. I shortened my email contacts list, even disabling Jalil who insisted on remaining. 

So, for me a smartphone is now superfluous. More free time with my flip phone. Less recharge as it's on standby 8-10 days 24/7. More time for my favourite pastime --- reading.

Looks like preparing for the after life.

K
kp posted:
Looks like preparing for the after life.

Life has stages, bhai. In Hindu terminology, you and I have reached the Bramhachari stage. We're supposed to shed material attachments, adopt frugal lifestyle, and think seriously about the meaning of our individual selves. You can see from yuji's comment earlier in this thread that he is prepared to surrender to a Bramhachari lifestyle after his 60th birthday. So it goes for some of us.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
kp posted:
Looks like preparing for the after life.

Life has stages, bhai. In Hindu terminology, you and I have reached the Bramhachari stage. We're supposed to shed material attachments, adopt frugal lifestyle, and think seriously about the meaning of our individual selves. You can see from yuji's comment earlier in this thread that he is prepared to surrender to a Bramhachari lifestyle after his 60th birthday. So it goes for some of us.

Gill,I am 63 my Dad is 92 and still travels on his own. I am content with life, eat a little drink a little and enjoy a lot. I enjoy a good health nothing bothers me I live with the attitude that everything happens for a purpose. 

K

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