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Indian Soldiers are the most humane on the planet. Indian Citizens in INDIA Kashmir were spitting and hitting them while they were carrying AK 47 and they did not KILL any of them. In fact, they just  keep walking. I think it was a great opportunity to send them to 72 Virgins!!!!!!!!

Nehru

Chief, you are a FOOL. Sonu is RIGHT. No Mosque, Temple or Gurwada should have loud speakers waking up the bloody neighborhood!!!!!!!!!!! Go to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan and do that!!!!!!!! I hope Liberty Ave is not going to have a noise nuisance!!!!

Nehru
Nehru posted:

Chief, you are a FOOL. Sonu is RIGHT. No Mosque, Temple or Gurwada should have loud speakers waking up the bloody neighborhood!!!!!!!!!!! Go to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan and do that!!!!!!!! I hope Liberty Ave is not going to have a noise nuisance!!!!

We respect the neighborhood and will not use loud speakers.

Sonu is still a skont!

Chief
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Chief posted:

Trump is rich and famous as well.

H e is still a jackass.

Whatever you call him, he's a US President surrounded by his family, laughing all the way to history and the bank.   

FM
Leonora posted:
Chief posted:

Trump is rich and famous as well.

H e is still a jackass.

Whatever you call him, he's a US President surrounded by his family, laughing all the way to history and the bank.   

Agreed!

 

Chief
Nehru posted:

Chief, you are a FOOL. Sonu is RIGHT. No Mosque, Temple or Gurwada should have loud speakers waking up the bloody neighborhood!!!!!!!!!!! Go to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan and do that!!!!!!!! I hope Liberty Ave is not going to have a noise nuisance!!!!

I am not picking on you but that is just ignorant. What does where you practice your religion have to do with it? However, I do agree that calling Azaan through a loud speaker in a ethnically and religiously diversified heavily populated area is not acceptable. These are different times. You don't have small homogenous communities living in close proximity to mosques.

GTAngler

GT, you and others are just giving Trump excuses for his policies. In America, religions are practiced in enclosed settings. When did you ever see a Clap Hand session on the road where the Pastor making the blind see, the deaf hear and the cripple walk???  In Guyana we used to witness that every Saturday night in our village. I used to believe there was no use for Doctors and Hospitals.

Nehru
Nehru posted:

GT, you and others are just giving Trump excuses for his policies. In America, religions are practiced in enclosed settings. When did you ever see a Clap Hand session on the road where the Pastor making the blind see, the deaf hear and the cripple walk???  In Guyana we used to witness that every Saturday night in our village. I used to believe there was no use for Doctors and Hospitals.

Dude, did you read what I said? I agree that the loud speaker is too much but it is part of Islam for the Muezzin to call Azaan. How is that buying into Trump's Policies? As for the enclosed settings, have you ever heard of the Jehovah's Witnessess for one?

GTAngler

Muhammad advised his companions to follow the middle road. He cautioned against going to either extremes. One should assess how to accomplish calling the azaan without bothering neighbors who are not interested in it. There are places in the world where the azaan will not bother people and there are places where it will. The Muslim has to be able to properly identify which is which. Asqualaani once said that wisdom is being able to put things in perspective. That is the wisdom that Muslims have to have.

FM

The Anglican Church by us used to ring that bell and it used to bother us. I don't know if that church is still operational and if they still ring that bell and while the words of the azaan seem more substantive than a ringing bell, I have to side with those who don't care to hear it.

FM
ksazma posted:

Muhammad advised his companions to follow the middle road. He cautioned against going to either extremes. One should assess how to accomplish calling the azaan without bothering neighbors who are not interested in it. There are places in the world where the azaan will not bother people and there are places where it will. The Muslim has to be able to properly identify which is which. Asqualaani once said that wisdom is being able to put things in perspective. That is the wisdom that Muslims have to have.

Well put.....

GTAngler

And Nehru bai, don't forget that Hindus do have loud sounds during poojas especially during arti, so it is not only Muslims who would have to be considerate of their neighbors.

FM
ksazma posted:

I meant to say that wisdom is the ability to put things in proper perspective.

And if they do it in the open, the neighbors have a right to object.  I believe Religion should be a personal thing. No need to advertise.

Nehru
RiffRaff posted:

wha happen?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/...gwSypcXSjct6QSM.html

"Seemingly annoyed by the sound of Azaan (call to prayers in a mosque), Sonu tagged it as “forced religiousness” and wrote, “God bless everyone. I’m not a Muslim and I have to be woken up by the Azaan in the morning. When will this forced religiousness end in India.”

Django
Django posted:
RiffRaff posted:

wha happen?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/...gwSypcXSjct6QSM.html

"Seemingly annoyed by the sound of Azaan (call to prayers in a mosque), Sonu tagged it as “forced religiousness” and wrote, “God bless everyone. I’m not a Muslim and I have to be woken up by the Azaan in the morning. When will this forced religiousness end in India.”

After reading this I must say that Sonu is a Schmuch. I don't see how he got to it being forced religiousness. He should have stuck with it being an annoyance to some.

FM
Nehru posted:
ksazma posted:

I meant to say that wisdom is the ability to put things in proper perspective.

And if they do it in the open, the neighbors have a right to object.  I believe Religion should be a personal thing. No need to advertise.

I agree. I just wanted to point out that not only Muslims advertise their religion.

FM

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