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You mek joke! All along I thought it was a buckman. The man said he had a lots of women falling heels over head for him.
Was that the PAC team ??
1957 Cabinet. PPP won 9 of the 14 seats I am told. Sitting with Sir Ralph Grey, then Governor of British Guiana.
Bibi Haniffa posted:1957 Cabinet. PPP won 9 of the 14 seats I am told. Sitting with Sir Ralph Grey, then Governor of British Guiana.
Noticeably three East Indians,sad what the political parties have become today.
Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, and Cheddi Jagan. I think one of those guys is Fenton Ramsahoye though he may have been too young??? He was Guyana's youngest attorney general.
Bibi Haniffa posted:Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, and Cheddi Jagan. I think one of those guys is Fenton Ramsahoye though he may have been too young??? He was Guyana's youngest attorney general.
Me thinks sitting next to J.J. he could pass for an European.
Guyana never seen such politician since!
Bibi Haniffa posted:Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, and Cheddi Jagan. I think one of those guys is Fenton Ramsahoye though he may have been too young??? He was Guyana's youngest attorney general.
Bibi, Fenton is not in this photo, however, my hero Balram Singh Rai is there. And I agree he is one damn handsome Indo Guyanese I've ever seen. I have this photos hung up in my living room.
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The Executive Council in 1957 was presided over by the Governor and consisted of three ex-officio BRITISH members â the Chief Secretary (External Affairs, Defence, Security Immigration, Civil Service etc.), Financial Secretary (Finance and Economic matters), Attorney General (Legal Matters) â and five elected members of the majority party - THE PPP (JAGAN).
1. JANET Jagan (Minister of Labour, Health and Housing);
2. BRITISH EX-OFFICO MAN.
3. THE GOVERNOR.
4. Dr CHEDDI B Jagan (Minister of Trade and Industry).
5. BRINDLEY H Benn (Minister of Community Development and Education);
NOW STANDING
1. A PUBLIC SERVANT WHO WAS A MULATO.
2. THE SHARPEST CAT IN EVER TO BE PRODUCED BY THE PPP AT THAT TIME, EVEN SHARPER THAN CHEDDI - BALRAM SINGH Rai appointed Minister after Edward Beharry was fired by Jagan for alleged corrupt activities.
3. BRITISH MAN WHO WAS THE FINANCE SECRETARY.AFTand Ram Karran (Minister of Communication and Works). Beharryâs appointement was revoked and, as a result, of Community Development and Education and BH Be, Minister of Natural Resources.
4. Ram Karran (Minister of Communication and Works).
THE REST WAS BRITISH PUBLIC SERVANTS.
BALRAM SINGH RAI
GUYANA UNDER SIEGE | |||
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Dondadda posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, and Cheddi Jagan. I think one of those guys is Fenton Ramsahoye though he may have been too young??? He was Guyana's youngest attorney general.
Bibi, Fenton is not in this photo, however, my hero Balram Singh Rai is there. And I agree he is one damn handsome Indo Guyanese I've ever seen. I have this photos hung up in my living room.
Thanks. He is also my hero. Still alive and living in London. He would/should have been President of Guyana. I hope he is reading this and smiling to himself.
It is interesting that both Beharry and Benn left the PPP and became very wealthy. While both Ramkaran and Rai were pushed out of the party by Dr Jagan and went into some type of political isolation.
Beharry was wealthy even before his expulsion from the PPP. Benn was the founder of the Worker Peoples' Vanguard Party , which later became defunct. He never became rich although he and his wife Patricia were the owners/operators of the Red Carpet restaurant in GT. Ramkarran became politically inactive because of illness although there were rumours that he and Cheddi fell out. Rai started the Justice Party with financial help from the CIA and after the 1964 elections eventually became politically inactive before migrating to the UK where he practiced as a lawyer.. He is still alive.
I met Balram Singh Rai for the last time in London in 1982 at a religious function and whilst chatting with him I enquired whether it was true that his Justice Party was financed by the CIA . He did not answer and became very cold towards me after. Subsequently some of the declassified documents revealed that the CIA did provide financial support to the Justice Party . The CIA hoped that the Justice Party would have pulled away Hindu support from the PPP in 1964. They also financially supported GUMP under Hoosein Ghanie with the hope that Muslim support would have been pulled away from the PPP. Both efforts failed.
Bibi Haniffa posted:Dondadda posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, and Cheddi Jagan. I think one of those guys is Fenton Ramsahoye though he may have been too young??? He was Guyana's youngest attorney general.
Bibi, Fenton is not in this photo, however, my hero Balram Singh Rai is there. And I agree he is one damn handsome Indo Guyanese I've ever seen. I have this photos hung up in my living room.
Thanks. He is also my hero. Still alive and living in London. He would/should have been President of Guyana. I hope he is reading this and smiling to himself.
Balram Singh Rai recalled that not a single East Indian voice was publicly heard protesting his removal from Government in 1962. The East Indian community failed to appreciate his dedicated and self -sacrificing service to them and to take the option he gave them two years later when he contested the 1964 General Elections with his Justice Party.He said that he would have liked to do more for Guyana and for East Indians in particular - he had just started - but they deprived themselves of his service.
Balram lamented how sad, very sad it was that many Guyanese East Indians remained deprived of their heritage and the fruits of the labours for their ancestors of over 100 years.
He advocated and implemented a policy of recruiting members of the Police Force to reflect a cross section of the Guyanese people, as a result of which many suitable qualified officers including East Indians received early promotion to officer rank in the Force.
BS Rai personally, along with Mrs. Rai saved Dr. Jagan from certain death when he was attacked by a PNC mob after a road show one night in Georgetown to welcome the Duke of Edinburg in 1962.
Balram Singh Rai embraced his principles for his people, as he embraced the truth. He is one class act. None in the past/current PPP can even come close to this man, and that includes all the Jagans, the Ramkarrans, the Nagamootoos, the Ramjattans and many others.
He was a believer in "SATYAMEVA JAYATE" -truth alone triumphs.
comrade posted:I met Balram Singh Rai for the last time in London in 1982 at a religious function and whilst chatting with him I enquired whether it was true that his Justice Party was financed by the CIA . He did not answer and became very cold towards me after. Subsequently some of the declassified documents revealed that the CIA did provide financial support to the Justice Party . The CIA hoped that the Justice Party would have pulled away Hindu support from the PPP in 1964. They also financially supported GUMP under Hoosein Ghanie with the hope that Muslim support would have been pulled away from the PPP. Both efforts failed.
You insulted BS by asking him the question you did. He is right not to respond to you and show you the cold shoulder. He did not get CIA money. If you believe that then tell us how much they gave him and let us see the declassified documents.
Dondadda posted:comrade posted:I met Balram Singh Rai for the last time in London in 1982 at a religious function and whilst chatting with him I enquired whether it was true that his Justice Party was financed by the CIA . He did not answer and became very cold towards me after. Subsequently some of the declassified documents revealed that the CIA did provide financial support to the Justice Party . The CIA hoped that the Justice Party would have pulled away Hindu support from the PPP in 1964. They also financially supported GUMP under Hoosein Ghanie with the hope that Muslim support would have been pulled away from the PPP. Both efforts failed.
You insulted BS by asking him the question you did. He is right not to respond to you and show you the cold shoulder. He did not get CIA money. If you believe that then tell us how much they gave him and let us see the declassified documents.
Don, there is a book titled "U.S. INTERVENTION IN BRITISH GUIANA: A Cold War Story" by Stephen G Rabe. This is a quotation from that book: "Sustained by unpleasant perceptions of the past, the [Lyndon] Johnson administration worked tirelessly to ensure that Guyanese rejected Cheddi Jagan in the national election scheduled for December 1964. The administration aimed to prevent the PPP from garnering 50 percent of the national vote .... The Johnson administration focused on enhancing the abilities of the PNC and UF and creating splinter parties to draw Indians away from Jagan and the PPP .... The CIA settled on Jai Narine Singh and Balram Singh Rai to lead the new Justice Party. Jai Narine Singh asked the United States for $75,000 a month in campaign expenses to be deposited in the Royal Bank of Canada."
Don, I have no personal animosity against Balram Singh Rai. In fact, I like him. But he had a compelling motivation to join the US in removing Jagan from office after he was expelled from the PPP in 1962. The poster Comrade was not tactful in raising a political issue with Mr Rai at a religious function in London in 1982, but certain historical facts should not be swept under the carpet. This is all I have to say.
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Dondadda posted:comrade posted:I met Balram Singh Rai for the last time in London in 1982 at a religious function and whilst chatting with him I enquired whether it was true that his Justice Party was financed by the CIA . He did not answer and became very cold towards me after. Subsequently some of the declassified documents revealed that the CIA did provide financial support to the Justice Party . The CIA hoped that the Justice Party would have pulled away Hindu support from the PPP in 1964. They also financially supported GUMP under Hoosein Ghanie with the hope that Muslim support would have been pulled away from the PPP. Both efforts failed.
You insulted BS by asking him the question you did. He is right not to respond to you and show you the cold shoulder. He did not get CIA money. If you believe that then tell us how much they gave him and let us see the declassified documents.
I never insulted Rai. He was a public figure at a time when we were experiencing serious political challenges. I simply asked him if it was true about the rumours with reference to the CIA financing of his party.
Gilbakka posted:Dondadda posted:comrade posted:I met Balram Singh Rai for the last time in London in 1982 at a religious function and whilst chatting with him I enquired whether it was true that his Justice Party was financed by the CIA . He did not answer and became very cold towards me after. Subsequently some of the declassified documents revealed that the CIA did provide financial support to the Justice Party . The CIA hoped that the Justice Party would have pulled away Hindu support from the PPP in 1964. They also financially supported GUMP under Hoosein Ghanie with the hope that Muslim support would have been pulled away from the PPP. Both efforts failed.
You insulted BS by asking him the question you did. He is right not to respond to you and show you the cold shoulder. He did not get CIA money. If you believe that then tell us how much they gave him and let us see the declassified documents.
Don, there is a book titled "U.S. INTERVENTION IN BRITISH GUIANA: A Cold War Story" by Stephen G Rabe. This is a quotation from that book: "Sustained by unpleasant perceptions of the past, the [Lyndon] Johnson administration worked tirelessly to ensure that Guyanese rejected Cheddi Jagan in the national election scheduled for December 1964. The administration aimed to prevent the PPP from garnering 50 percent of the national vote .... The Johnson administration focused on enhancing the abilities of the PNC and UF and creating splinter parties to draw Indians away from Jagan and the PPP .... The CIA settled on Jai Narine Singh and Balram Singh Rai to lead the new Justice Party. Jai Narine Singh asked the United States for $75,000 a month in campaign expenses to be deposited in the Royal Bank of Canada."
Don, I have no personal animosity against Balram Singh Rai. In fact, I like him. But he had a compelling motivation to join the US in removing Jagan from office after he was expelled from the PPP in 1962. The poster Comrade was not tactful in raising a political issue with Mr Rai at a religious function in London in 1982, but certain historical facts should not be swept under the carpet. This is all I have to say.
The question was asked during a discussion over several issues including his pension which was never paid to him. It was not a vindictive question but part of a discussion. Rai avoids talking about issues of historic importance in which he played important roles. Batoram had a very hard time in getting an interview with him.
comrade posted:I met Balram Singh Rai for the last time in London in 1982 at a religious function and whilst chatting with him I enquired whether it was true that his Justice Party was financed by the CIA . He did not answer and became very cold towards me after. Subsequently some of the declassified documents revealed that the CIA did provide financial support to the Justice Party . The CIA hoped that the Justice Party would have pulled away Hindu support from the PPP in 1964. They also financially supported GUMP under Hoosein Ghanie with the hope that Muslim support would have been pulled away from the PPP. Both efforts failed.
That is why we can forgive the Limey DOGS and the CIA but we must NEVER forget!!!!!!!!!!!!
comrade posted:Gilbakka posted:Dondadda posted:comrade posted:I met Balram Singh Rai for the last time in London in 1982 at a religious function and whilst chatting with him I enquired whether it was true that his Justice Party was financed by the CIA . He did not answer and became very cold towards me after. Subsequently some of the declassified documents revealed that the CIA did provide financial support to the Justice Party . The CIA hoped that the Justice Party would have pulled away Hindu support from the PPP in 1964. They also financially supported GUMP under Hoosein Ghanie with the hope that Muslim support would have been pulled away from the PPP. Both efforts failed.
You insulted BS by asking him the question you did. He is right not to respond to you and show you the cold shoulder. He did not get CIA money. If you believe that then tell us how much they gave him and let us see the declassified documents.
Don, there is a book titled "U.S. INTERVENTION IN BRITISH GUIANA: A Cold War Story" by Stephen G Rabe. This is a quotation from that book: "Sustained by unpleasant perceptions of the past, the [Lyndon] Johnson administration worked tirelessly to ensure that Guyanese rejected Cheddi Jagan in the national election scheduled for December 1964. The administration aimed to prevent the PPP from garnering 50 percent of the national vote .... The Johnson administration focused on enhancing the abilities of the PNC and UF and creating splinter parties to draw Indians away from Jagan and the PPP .... The CIA settled on Jai Narine Singh and Balram Singh Rai to lead the new Justice Party. Jai Narine Singh asked the United States for $75,000 a month in campaign expenses to be deposited in the Royal Bank of Canada."
Don, I have no personal animosity against Balram Singh Rai. In fact, I like him. But he had a compelling motivation to join the US in removing Jagan from office after he was expelled from the PPP in 1962. The poster Comrade was not tactful in raising a political issue with Mr Rai at a religious function in London in 1982, but certain historical facts should not be swept under the carpet. This is all I have to say.
The question was asked during a discussion over several issues including his pension which was never paid to him. It was not a vindictive question but part of a discussion. Rai avoids talking about issues of historic importance in which he played important roles. Batoram had a very hard time in getting an interview with him.
Thank you for the explanation and context, sir.
....and I tawt dis thred wuz about moi...handsome an all ......
Let's not get too crazy now!!!
Bibi Haniffa posted:Let's not get too crazy now!!!
Given that you used to stalk Kari and pour out his business on GNI I thought that it was him.
Is true Caribj is a copy of Dr Potolemy Reid?????????
Nehru posted:Is true Caribj is a copy of Dr Potolemy Reid?????????
Its been a long time since I heard that line. Somebody need to post some Burnham and Reid jokes to lighten thing up a bit.
Well why did Balram not get a national award?
KishanB posted:Well why did Balram not get a national award?
That question should be directed to F.H,they could have given him,they had ample time to make a decision,when you are labeled a 'Nimak....m" you are done you become an out cast.
Django posted:KishanB posted:Well why did Balram not get a national award?
That question should be directed to F.H,they could have given him,they had ample time to make a decision,when you are labeled a 'Nimak....m" you are done you become an out cast.
I don't know whether Freedom House labeled Balram Singh Rai a neemakharam. Actually, he was not ungrateful to the PPP but vice versa. Balram Singh Rai is an educated man with an independent mind. When he was in the PPP he had the courage to stand up to Cheddi and Jagan and, among other things, warned them about flirting with communism. I was told that one day Dr Jagan allegedly insulted Rai and he promptly replied that he was a Rajput/Chatree whereas Jagan was a Kurmee/lower caste.
Same thing today. Anil the drunkee said he is a chatree and BJ is a chamar (low class).
BS Rai always made it clear that he was a Rajput.
Prashad posted:BS Rai always made it clear that he was a Rajput.
This is strange coming from Balram Singh Rai as he is an educated man and should have known that one loses his caste after crossing the Kala Pani.
comrade posted:Prashad posted:BS Rai always made it clear that he was a Rajput.
This is strange coming from Balram Singh Rai as he is an educated man and should have known that one loses his caste after crossing the Kala Pani.
One loses his Africaness when he crosses the Atlantic. Isn't that true Comrade?
comrade posted:Prashad posted:BS Rai always made it clear that he was a Rajput.
This is strange coming from Balram Singh Rai as he is an educated man and should have known that one loses his caste after crossing the Kala Pani.
For every rule there is an exception. Kala Pani or Kala Rani, a Chatree will always be a Chatree. Ask Anil Nandlall, a brilliant lawyer like Balram Singh Rai.
Dondadda posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Balram Singh Rai, Boysie Ramkarran, and Cheddi Jagan. I think one of those guys is Fenton Ramsahoye though he may have been too young??? He was Guyana's youngest attorney general.
Bibi, Fenton is not in this photo, however, my hero Balram Singh Rai is there. And I agree he is one damn handsome Indo Guyanese I've ever seen. I have this photos hung up in my living room.
He resembles Mr Bean a little! Just kidding.