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Govt to fork out $50M to handpicked Ram, Goolsarran

Sole-sourced State Audits

– Auditor General’s office subverted Strident critics of the former People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Administration, Chartered Accountant

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Christopher Ram and former Auditor General Anand Goolsarran, both of whom were “sole-sourced” by the Government for the purpose of the forensic audits, will cost the State in excess of $50 million, approximately two-thirds of the net figure allotted to be spent on the probes into State agencies. This disclosure, which was made during the final hours of the consideration of the Budget Estimates, took the House by total surprise, because, not only was it discovered that these two individuals would be cashing in on hefty chunks of taxpayers’ monies, but the Government finally admitted that the auditors were hired without going to public tender as was required by the law. Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo, speaking to reporters shortly after Budget 2015 was passed, noted that this was another act of deception by the A Partnership for National Unity/ Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) Administration. “There was no public tender in sourcing them…no public tender whatsoever. These are some of the worse acts of

Chartered Accountant Christopher Ram

Chartered Accountant Christopher Ram

corruption by this Administration. These were the people who lectured about probity and accountability and being transparent,” Jagdeo stated, exposing the coalition’s duplicity once again. Jagdeo had already revealed that the haphazard manner in which the Government decided to embark upon these audits was in complete violation of the law, but noted that the only reason the PPP/C did not take the matter to the courts was because the Party did not want to give the impression that it  was scared of being scrutinised. “We don’t want people to think we have something to hide and that we are afraid of these audits and that is one of the reasons why we haven’t moved to the courts to stop this audit, because we don’t want people to think we are opposed to the audit,” he stated. Former Attorney General and Legal Affairs Minister Anil Nandlall had also previously noted that the entire undertaking of the forensic audits was completely unconstitutional. He too noted that the recruitment process of the auditors was an infringement of the Public Procurement Act. “It is beyond dispute that those auditors were handpicked by the Minister of Finance without any public procurement process embarked upon…This mandatory statutory process was wholly ignored by the Minister of Finance and millions of dollars of services have been contracted to audit, ultra vires and in breach of the laws of Guyana and persons were simply handpicked by the Minister of Finance and given jobs. There was absolutely no public tendering. This is what is called “sole sourcing”, a concept that was vehemently criticised by the very persons who now practise it,” Nandlall exclaimed.

Compounding unlawfulness Both Nandlall and Jagdeo recognised and highlighted that the manner in which the forensic audits were being

Former Auditor General Anand Goolsarran

Former Auditor General Anand Goolsarran

executed completely undermined the Office of the Auditor General. Compounding the unlawfulness, the politicians pointed out that Goolsarran and Ram were hiring other auditors to assist in the process when they did not have the authority to do so. “Not only does the Minister have the authority, but he gave these handpicked auditors the instructions to hire more auditors,” Nandlall said, arguing that the power to do this lies with the Auditor General Deodat Sharma.

Requisite skills The contention was also made that Goolsarran and Ram did not even possess the requisite skills to conduct forensic audits. “Normally when you do an audit, you get all your findings and you submit a management letter and the management responds to your findings… But every day they are releasing little bits to the newspapers to make it a political process… they are not competent and they do not have the skills,” Jagdeo had stated. “We in the PPP will support any forensic audit, but for a forensic audit to be fair and to do its work to find corruption, you have to have the skills to do that and I submit that these two persons, they are political operatives. They do not have the skills to practise forensic audits…We are in favour of hiring a reputable international company, in a transparent process to do this, to do forensic audits of all of our accounts,” he added.

Conflict of interest The argument was also made that both Goolsarran and Ram represent a clear conflict of interest. An accredited accountant had already urged the David Granger-led Administration to engage one or more international accounting firms to conduct the forensic audits it is undertaking at several State agencies, arguing that some of the local firms identified present a clear case of conflict of interest and could destroy the credibility of the work they are being contracted to do. “Given their ties to this Administration and obvious animosity towards the PPP/C, this is a clear case of lack of independence and conflict of interest. Goolsarran and Ram, who are members of the ACCA (Association of Chartered Certified Accountants), should be reminded of that body’s code of ethics which mandate integrity, objectivity, professional competence and due care, confidentiality and professional behaviour. Both gentlemen should, therefore, do the honourable thing and distance themselves from this engagement,” the accountant urged.

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This disclosure, which was made during the final hours of the consideration of the Budget Estimates, took the House by total surprise, because, not only was it discovered that these two individuals would be cashing in on hefty chunks of taxpayers’ monies, but the Government finally admitted that the auditors were hired without going to public tender as was required by the law. Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo, speaking to reporters shortly after Budget 2015 was passed, noted that this was another act of deception by the A Partnership for National Unity/ Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) Administration. “There was no public tender in sourcing them…no public tender whatsoever. These are some of the worse acts of

Chartered Accountant Christopher Ram

Chartered Accountant Christopher Ram

corruption by this Administration. These were the people who lectured about probity and accountability and being transparent,” Jagdeo stated, exposing the coalition’s duplicity once again. Jagdeo had already revealed that the haphazard manner in which the Government decided to embark upon these audits was in complete violation of the law, but noted that the only reason the PPP/C did not take the matter to the courts was because the Party did not want to give the impression that it  was scared of being scrutinised. “We don’t want people to think we have something to hide and that we are afraid of these audits and that is one of the reasons why we haven’t moved to the courts to stop this audit, because we don’t want people to think we are opposed to the audit,” he stated. Former Attorney General and Legal Affairs Minister Anil Nandlall had also previously noted that the entire undertaking of the forensic audits was completely unconstitutional. He too noted that the recruitment process of the auditors was an infringement of the Public Procurement Act. “It is beyond dispute that those auditors were handpicked by the Minister of Finance without any public procurement process embarked upon…This mandatory statutory process was wholly ignored by the Minister of Finance and millions of dollars of services have been contracted to audit, ultra vires and in breach of the laws of Guyana and persons were simply handpicked by the Minister of Finance and given jobs.

FM

"This disclosure, which was made during the final hours of the consideration of the Budget Estimates, took the House by total surprise, because, not only was it discovered that these two individuals would be cashing in on hefty chunks of taxpayers’ monies, but the Government finally admitted that the auditors were hired without going to public tender as was required by the law. Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo, speaking to reporters shortly after Budget 2015 was passed, noted that this was another act of deception by the A Partnership for National Unity/ Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) Administration. “There was no public tender in sourcing them…no public tender whatsoever. These are some of the worse acts of corruption by this Administration. These were the people who lectured about probity and accountability and being transparent,” Jagdeo stated, exposing the coalition’s duplicity once again. Jagdeo had already revealed that the haphazard manner in which the Government decided to embark upon these audits was in complete violation of the law, but noted that the only reason the PPP/C did not take the matter to the courts was because the Party did not want to give the impression that it  was scared of being scrutinised. “We don’t want people to think we have something to hide and that we are afraid of these audits and that is one of the reasons why we haven’t moved to the courts to stop this audit, because we don’t want people to think we are opposed to the audit,” he stated. Former Attorney General and Legal Affairs Minister Anil Nandlall had also previously noted that the entire undertaking of the forensic audits was completely unconstitutional. He too noted that the recruitment process of the auditors was an infringement of the Public Procurement Act. “It is beyond dispute that those auditors were handpicked by the Minister of Finance without any public procurement process embarked upon…This mandatory statutory process was wholly ignored by the Minister of Finance and millions of dollars of services have been contracted to audit, ultra vires and in breach of the laws of Guyana and persons were simply handpicked by the Minister of Finance and given jobs."

GNI klown argumentation

 

is this joker a poster here?

 

lol

FM
Former Attorney General and Legal Affairs Minister Anil Nandlall had also previously noted that the entire undertaking of the forensic audits was completely unconstitutional. He too noted that the recruitment process of the auditors was an infringement of the Public Procurement Act. “It is beyond dispute that those auditors were handpicked by the Minister of Finance without any public procurement process embarked upon… This mandatory statutory process was wholly ignored by the Minister of Finance and millions of dollars of services have been contracted to audit, ultra vires and in breach of the laws of Guyana and persons were simply handpicked by the Minister of Finance and given jobs. There was absolutely no public tendering.This is what is called “sole sourcing”, a concept that was vehemently criticised by the very persons who now practise it,” Nandlall exclaimed.

 

Govt to fork out $50M to handpicked Ram, Goolsarran, August 29, 2015  By

The current administrative ways of the government.

FM

Auditor General’s office subverted Strident critics of the former People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Administration, Chartered Accountant

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Christopher Ram and former Auditor General Anand Goolsarran, both of whom were “sole-sourced” by the Government for the purpose of the forensic audits, will cost the State in excess of $50 million.

This is like Grainger throwing water on Duck's Back as nothing will come out of this whilst the State will have to forked out $50 Million Dollars.

 

Jagdeo had already revealed that the haphazard manner in which the Government decided to embark upon these audits was in complete violation of the law

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

Auditor General’s office subverted Strident critics of the former People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Administration, Chartered Accountant

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Christopher Ram and former Auditor General Anand Goolsarran, both of whom were “sole-sourced” by the Government for the purpose of the forensic audits, will cost the State in excess of $50 million.

This is like Grainger throwing water on Duck's Back as nothing will come out of this whilst the State will have to forked out $50 Million Dollars.

 

Jagdeo had already revealed that the haphazard manner in which the Government decided to embark upon these audits was in complete violation of the law

Who are you going to get otherwise. deloitte and touche class foreign auditors and pay 10 million? If these fellows give us a picture of NICIL, ( that includes the Marriott,PPL, NCN, GINA)  and an accounting of our current financial status they are worth every penny  of the 250k spent.

FM
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Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by asj:

Auditor General’s office subverted Strident critics of the former People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Administration, Chartered Accountant

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Christopher Ram and former Auditor General Anand Goolsarran, both of whom were “sole-sourced” by the Government for the purpose of the forensic audits, will cost the State in excess of $50 million.

This is like Grainger throwing water on Duck's Back as nothing will come out of this whilst the State will have to forked out $50 Million Dollars.

 

Jagdeo had already revealed that the haphazard manner in which the Government decided to embark upon these audits was in complete violation of the law

Who are you going to get otherwise. deloitte and touche class foreign auditors and pay 10 million? If these fellows give us a picture of NICIL, ( that includes the Marriott,PPL, NCN, GINA)  and an accounting of our current financial status they are worth every penny  of the 250k spent.

When the last did you visit Guyana? I can reel out six Chartered Accountant/Auditors that The PNC/AFC could have choosen from, but they chose to go, the illegal way, because they and me and everyone knows (apart from you) that Christopher Ram is no kind of friend to the PPP. So they, so going that way, will give them all zeal and power to find something/anything to placed at the door of the PPP. Needless to say that they are flagging a dead horse.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by asj:

Auditor General’s office subverted Strident critics of the former People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Administration, Chartered Accountant

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Christopher Ram and former Auditor General Anand Goolsarran, both of whom were “sole-sourced” by the Government for the purpose of the forensic audits, will cost the State in excess of $50 million.

This is like Grainger throwing water on Duck's Back as nothing will come out of this whilst the State will have to forked out $50 Million Dollars.

 

Jagdeo had already revealed that the haphazard manner in which the Government decided to embark upon these audits was in complete violation of the law

Who are you going to get otherwise. deloitte and touche class foreign auditors and pay 10 million? If these fellows give us a picture of NICIL, ( that includes the Marriott,PPL, NCN, GINA)  and an accounting of our current financial status they are worth every penny  of the 250k spent.

When the last did you visit Guyana? I can reel out six Chartered Accountant/Auditors that The PNC/AFC could have choosen from, but they chose to go, the illegal way, because they and me and everyone knows (apart from you) that Christopher Ram is no kind of friend to the PPP. So they, so going that way, will give them all zeal and power to find something/anything to placed at the door of the PPP. Needless to say that they are flagging a dead horse.

I do not have to tell you anything. That is my business. I am commenting on my country as I see fit. These fellows know the landscape and the wrote on it and commented on it in various ways, are professionals  and the APNU  is trusting of them so that is all that matters at the moment. None asked the PPP when they farmed out ever contract to BK and bobby with no consulting to anyone. They give themselves sea side dachas with no consulting so you go and mull on that. 

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

The PNC is appointing enemies of the PPP to jobs they cannot do.

 

Where are the results of the Audits?  

 

What happened to the Proof they claimed to have had before the election?

 

 

This is the real source of PPP angst.  That a bunch of "dirty Indians", neemakarams, or "self hating Indians", will expose the Indo KKK.

 

Rama stop exposing how primitive you are. Audits take a long time. Had they already come back with a verdict, even you would have been justified to call it mere witch hunting.

FM
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Originally Posted by asj:
) that Christopher Ram is no kind of friend to the PPP.

Good.  Do you think that the PPP would ever support any company with PNC affiliations to do any work?

 

So why scream when the PPP is administered the same medicine which they dished out?

 

Now focus on why Chris Ram is unqualified to do the job, aside from being anti PPP, and some one who exposed Indo racism for what it is on his TV program.

FM
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Originally Posted by KishanB:

Nice, at least come crullie man meking money from the APNUAFC Govment.

So this was what it as all about, couple "crullie" mekking nuff nuff money compliments PNC?  So when's your pay-day?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Nice, at least come crullie man meking money from the APNUAFC Govment.

So this was what it as all about, couple "crullie" mekking nuff nuff money compliments PNC?  So when's your pay-day?

u calling this "nuff nuff money" . . . lol

 

de tiefin rat and babbie laffin dey heads off in de Sanata (grand larceny) complex

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Nice, at least come crullie man meking money from the APNUAFC Govment.

So this was what it as all about, couple "crullie" mekking nuff nuff money compliments PNC?  So when's your pay-day?

You think we are PPPP.  The trrasury is the people money.

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Nice, at least come crullie man meking money from the APNUAFC Govment.

So this was what it as all about, couple "crullie" mekking nuff nuff money compliments PNC?  So when's your pay-day?

You think we are PPPP.  The trrasury is the people money.

So, is what happen with all the evidence alyuh had?  Suddenly bark done, is squeaking time.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEmWdUZpEVA

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Nice, at least come crullie man meking money from the APNUAFC Govment.

So this was what it as all about, couple "crullie" mekking nuff nuff money compliments PNC?  So when's your pay-day?

u calling this "nuff nuff money" . . . lol

 

de tiefin rat and babbie laffin dey heads off in de Sanata (grand larceny) complex

After just 100 days, it's nuff money!

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

Nice, at least come crullie man meking money from the APNUAFC Govment.

So this was what it as all about, couple "crullie" mekking nuff nuff money compliments PNC?  So when's your pay-day?

u calling this "nuff nuff money" . . . lol

 

de tiefin rat and babbie laffin dey heads off in de Sanata (grand larceny) complex

After just 100 days, it's nuff money!

Who paid for the renovations for Sanata complex before it was handed over to the PPP/Crony?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by warrior:

i am hoping they can recover more than what the government is paying out if not is a waste of tax payers money but the government need to recover what the ppp thief

They will come up with nothing of real substance, maybe Webster's vehicles, etc.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

i am hoping they can recover more than what the government is paying out if not is a waste of tax payers money but the government need to recover what the ppp thief

They will come up with nothing of real substance, maybe Webster's vehicles, etc.

lets give them a chance to find out later we can judge 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

i am hoping they can recover more than what the government is paying out if not is a waste of tax payers money but the government need to recover what the ppp thief

They will come up with nothing of real substance, maybe Webster's vehicles, etc.

She is just a small fish.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

i am hoping they can recover more than what the government is paying out if not is a waste of tax payers money but the government need to recover what the ppp thief

They will come up with nothing of real substance, maybe Webster's vehicles, etc.

She is just a small fish.

But the biggest you will find!

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

i am hoping they can recover more than what the government is paying out if not is a waste of tax payers money but the government need to recover what the ppp thief

They will come up with nothing of real substance, maybe Webster's vehicles, etc.

I guess you are very certain those crooks covered their tracks properly!

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by warrior:

i am hoping they can recover more than what the government is paying out if not is a waste of tax payers money but the government need to recover what the ppp thief

They will come up with nothing of real substance, maybe Webster's vehicles, etc.

I guess you are very certain those crooks covered their tracks properly!

No banna, what I'm certain, there were no frauds.  There were incompetency and maybe lil last minute thiefery like Webster, but nothing more.  PNC will come up empty and they sah, dem coolie bais was smart.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
!

No banna, what I'm certain, there were no frauds.  There were incompetency and maybe lil last minute thiefery like Webster, but nothing more.  PNC will come up empty and they sah, dem coolie bais was smart.

In 2011 you endorsed the AFC as the PPP was supposedly too corrupt.  In 2015 you went Hindutva and endorsed the PPP DESPITE their corruption.

 

Now they face jail you suddenly have decided that they arent corrupt. Well they are.  Why is Jagdeo a multi miliionaire when in 1992 he was impoverished, as are most civil servants?  His various salaries and allowances were not enough to allow the accumulation of all of this wealth, so where did he get it from?

FM

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