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Reply to "Not a Sermon only a Thought"

Keith posted:
ksazma posted:
Keith posted:

How can you know God?

It all starts with accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ provides a relationship with the Father and eternal life through His death on the cross and resurrection,

This is funny given that while on the cross, Jesus spoke like he doesn't know God when he cried out "my God, my God, why has thou forsaken me". No person of God would ever question the actions of God for doing so indicates a gross lack of faith.

I don't expect you to understand but lets try it's been a few weeks now so hopefully you found some understanding...First of all, Jesus quoted Psalm (Old testament written ~1500-444 BC) 22:1 which begins with, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?" Jesus quoted this Psalm in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. Read Psalm 22 verses 11-18:

"11: Be not far from me, for trouble is near; For there is none to help.
12: Many bulls have surrounded me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me. 
13: They open wide their mouth at me,  As a ravening and a roaring lion.  14: I am poured out like water,  And all my bones are out of joint;   My heart is like wax;  It is melted within me. 
15: My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws;  And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death. 
16: For dogs ((Gentiles)) have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet.
17: I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me;
18: They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots
." Now Read Matthew 27:35. Fascinating is it?

In 2 Corinthians. 5:21 says, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." It is possible that at some moment on the cross when Jesus became sin on our behalf, that God the Father, in a sense, turned His back upon the Son. It says in Habakkuk (Old testament written ~7 century BC). 1:13 that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Peter. 2:24), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out.

My brother, I don't know why you thought that you would be adding clarity with your response above. Christianity is convoluted and no amount of apologetics over the past 2000 years will ever fix that. It is widely known and universally accepted by Bible scholars that in the compilation of the Bible, many documents were presented as parts of named books when they could not be so. I once posted two passages side by side where they were exactly the same passage inserted into the both books. There has also been wholesale copying (plagiarism) in the New Testament so I don't share your enthusiasm of Matthew 27:35 nor do I find it fascinating. The writers of the New Testament took old stories and associated them with Jesus and then claim that they were happening to Jesus and they never failed to add "so that the prophesy can be fulfilled". Adding this certification is done similar to Trump lying and then ending by saying "believe me". Your explanation about God temporarily turning his back on his son can only come from someone grounded in blind faith. It is as illogical as many other Christian teachings starting with how the Holy Spirit had to spread over Mary as in the missionary sexual position. God who created this grand plan that occurred on the Calvary cross can't deal with some of the circumstances of his own plan. And what sins of the world has Jesus abated since we are even more sinful now than we ever were. Even those who became 'born again' have ended up committing worse sins than what they did before they became 'born again'. So not only do 'born agains' don't know God. Jesus doesn't know God either. And based on Christian convoluted teachings, looks like even God does not know God. But since a sucker is born every moment, the charade will continue.

That said, Happy New Year. 

FM
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