caribny posted:ba$eman posted:.It's funny how you oppose what I say, then you agree with much of my position. Caribj is a fake and liar. And isn't it the position of Trump to open up the marketplace to cross-border competition? .
Listen baseman you know even less about this than Kari. How will it be competition if Empire Blue Iowa is competing with Empireblue NY.
There has been massive consolidation in health insurance so there is no competition to get.
And this doesn't address the fact that the reason why premiums are uncreasing is because healthcare costs are increasing?
If prescription drugs and hospital costs are high how does competition help? In fact there will be no competition beyond what we already have.
And here is your nonsense. The GOP are against any public support to compensate insurance companies for having to ensure unhealthy people. They are against the public option which would allow the state to assume risks for people too difficult to ensure.
Baseman do you suggest that sick people be left to die on the streets? Because this is what the GOP want to do.
No, you are a fool to think that's what I'm saying. But you have no solution that it viable except the Govt take over, which is also fine. You are coming from a welfare mindset where people do not take responsibility then someone has to pay up when the shit hits the fan. This does NOT how it works in a risk-based insurance model.
You think you know everything and if one does not agree with your model, then they don't know anything. I know very well how it works. I also know the impact on people and small businesses, which have been stunted due to this.
Listen Caribj, the ONLY beneficiaries of Obamacare are the don and out welfare class, not anyone making 400% of poverty, that's approx $60k/pa, a hardly livable wage when you have to fork over 1,200 per month in premiums and 2,500 deductible. You have no clue of what you speak, you spout hot air and sheer nonsense.
Listen again Caribj, your conceptual position is flawed, so you speak from a flawed position from the inception. So you are wrong, regardless how much you write and how you try to frame the issue.
The uninsurable needs to be put in a separate pool (State/Fed Medicaid), people/kids who have serious lifelong chronic conditions, etc. They should not be dumped on the insurance Companies as the premiums are unaffordable for the families. The poor people with high costs should also be part of the Govt Medicaid pool and not for the market insurance. People who chose not to take out insurance and then falls ill, stick them with the bill. You cannot force the insurance companies to take on a known certainly and pass it on to everyone.
Caribj, you are stuck in the social engineering mindset that is Obama so you don't see it, you just don't. Obamacare is a big disaster.
And look at you, cussing the doctors and Pharma companies. Don't blame the Pharma companies, clear up the frigging generic backlog and get the prices down for non-exclusive drugs. For exclusive drugs, yes ensure fair pricing for everyone, they need to have a return and the population needs access. However, don't make stupid political statements, it solves nothing.